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Matthew Rose

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Re: Which course?...
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2020, 08:27:23 PM »
Since I'm in Melbourne now, how about Commonwealth?
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Joel_Stewart

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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2020, 11:04:36 PM »
For discussion sake, I'll say Timber Point on Long Island.


Built in the 1920s by Colt and Alison. It would take an enormous amount of money but would probably be better than Bethpage.


From Wikipedia,


"Timber Point exists in a heavily altered state since its present owner, Suffolk County, long ago turned it into a 27-hole (three 9-hole courses) facility. Were its original design still intact, it would surely rate very near the top of Long Island's best courses.[/b] The course is open seven days a week (in season), opening March 15 and with the last day of golf as December 30.[/size][/font]
[/size]The Suffolk County Parks Department of Recreation & Conservation Golf Courses headquarters is located at Timber Point. Since the department's relocation here the course has had substantial improvements."[/color]

Pat Burke

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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2020, 11:37:06 PM »
Timber Point




MKrohn

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« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2020, 04:17:05 AM »
Needs some TLC and its not in the US, Humewood in Sth Africa.

Kyle Harris

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« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2020, 06:11:56 AM »
Tom Doak,


Per your Instagram story, is the cat now out of the bag? And was it listed a few posts after your teaser on this thread?
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Ira Fishman

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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2020, 07:12:22 AM »
Cog Hill 4. Undo the Rees Jones renovation. It also would be interesting to see Broadmoor East with use of all of the Ross holes.

Jim Sherma

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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2020, 08:27:34 AM »
Hershey West - 1930 Maurice McCarthy. Most of the original course is still there (Postlethwaite replaced some greens in the 1980's and the work is very nicely done for the most part). Historic photos show significant width and bunkering as well as some large squared off greens. Excepting for some indifferent maintenance practices the course offers good daily play as is. However, the shrunken discs of putting surface sitting on these gorgeous green pads is somewhat depressing. Knowing the mowing lines and fairway bunkering that were once there makes me think of what could be if given some love and investment.

Andrew Harvie

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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2020, 09:03:45 AM »
Aside from a couple exceptions, almost every classic golf course in Canada needs a restoration
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MCirba

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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2020, 09:05:06 AM »
Both courses are probably too low-lying and susceptible to flooding for this to happen but would love to see the aforementioned Timber Point as well as Shawnee-on-the-Delaware taken back to their original 18 hole configurations.

Both were terrific courses that were unwisely turned into 27 mediocre to horrendous holes by folks who must have been taking LSD during the 1960s.
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Jim Sherma

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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2020, 09:12:18 AM »

Shawnee is such a great location to play golf. Being out on the island on a nice fall day has to be one of the great "walk in the park" experiences available. The course there is ok enough to make a nice day out but nothing special in and of itself. Would be great to have seen what Tillinghast left there when he was done. The flooding is a real issue however and anything there will likely have to be reclaimed from river sediment once or twice a decade.



Both courses are probably too low-lying and susceptible to flooding for this to happen but would love to see the aforementioned Timber Point as well as Shawnee-on-the-Delaware taken back to their original 18 hole configurations.

Both were terrific courses that were unwisely turned into 27 mediocre to horrendous holes by folks who must have been taking LSD during the 1960s.

MCirba

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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2020, 10:21:37 AM »
Jim,


The old aerials and ground photos look pretty compelling.  It's cool to think Tillinghast started that work before NGLA was opened. 


Remnants remain and are by far the best holes and greens on the course.


We should play there sometime.
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David Ober

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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2020, 10:24:29 AM »
Griffith Park in LA.  Two George Thomas designs.


Yes!


I will also add my home course, Victoria Club in Riverside, CA, a 1925 Max Behr re-design.

Jim Franklin

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« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2020, 10:34:11 AM »
Baltimore Country Club West Course. We still have the Tillinghast plans and can still build 12 or 14 of the holes he designed. A 2021 Tillinghast would be pretty cool IMHO.
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Ryan Hillenbrand

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« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2020, 10:58:17 AM »
Perhaps Dornick Hills


Nice call Mike

Mike Bodo

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« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2020, 12:34:15 PM »
My pick would be Denison Golf Club at Granville. Return the course back to its original Ross holes and routing and it'll be among the top Ross courses in the state of Ohio.
"90% of all putts left short are missed." - Yogi Berra

Tommy Williamsen

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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2020, 12:51:15 PM »
Baltimore Country Club West Course. We still have the Tillinghast plans and can still build 12 or 14 of the holes he designed. A 2021 Tillinghast would be pretty cool IMHO.


Jim with all the renovations the West Course has undergone, why wasn't this ever done?
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Matt Frey, PGA

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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2020, 01:42:22 PM »
The original 18-hole course at Malone Golf Club (Wilkinson / Murray) in New York. Most of the holes still exist, but are split between the current East and West Courses. All 18 are recoverable, even those holes that aren't being maintained anymore.

Joe Bausch

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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2020, 06:59:33 PM »
Suneagles Golf Club - Eatontown, NJ.     A Tillinghast design.

Only played it once last December before Christmas.  By far the most amazing greens I have seen on a public course in this area, and could potentially be some of the most interesting in the entire state.

Many good holes, some blah ones that could use a little work, but this may already be a gem and could really become something special.    Also has an interesting history.
 
Huge movement on some of the greens, and some of the original bunkers are also massive, deep with many elevated greens.Some greens have substantial bunker splash build-up.   

Will have to go back with good weather and take some early evening pictures of the greens.    Joe Bausch has a tour on MyPhillyGolf.com, but the greens deserve some extra focus.


The photo album mentioned:


http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/Suneagles/index.html
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Jim Franklin

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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2020, 09:42:06 AM »
Baltimore Country Club West Course. We still have the Tillinghast plans and can still build 12 or 14 of the holes he designed. A 2021 Tillinghast would be pretty cool IMHO.


Jim with all the renovations the West Course has undergone, why wasn't this ever done?

Cost.
Mr Hurricane

Tom_Doak

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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2020, 08:02:47 PM »
Tom Doak,


Per your Instagram story, is the cat now out of the bag? And was it listed a few posts after your teaser on this thread?


Yes, the course I was referring to six months ago was Dornick Hills.  The coolest part of it is that the foundation that is funding it is headed by the 80-year-old grandson of Dean Woods, who was Perry Maxwell's brother in law and lead shaper!


Years ago, I also did a plan for Shawnee - Tillinghast's first course - but they have never followed through.  I believe they will only consider it if the river floods again and they have to rebuild.


I've also volunteered to restore Timber Point but I doubt the county will ever let it happen.  Like Shawnee, they think they serve more people with 27 holes.