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Ronald Montesano

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JC Jones

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2020, 12:49:06 PM »
So not only have we resumed the practice, we are now doing so by linking to another golf discussion website.  ::) ::)
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2020, 06:46:06 PM »
You must have been gone for a while. I never ceased the practice, and I've often linked to GolfWRX the news site, not GolfWRX the forum. Hope this helps in this time of patience and understanding, JC.   :-*
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2020, 05:36:21 PM »
Is your other thread about volunteering your editing services a veiled insult of this publication. Strange timing.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2020, 07:31:20 PM »
Not an insult. Direct, certainly, but not an insult. Unless self-publishers feel insulted. I haven't read a comment on the other thread since I posted it. If someone wishes to avail self of my offer, they know how to find me.


Ian's book is excellent. I encourage you to read it.
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John Mayhugh

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2020, 08:51:59 AM »
Not an insult. Direct, certainly, but not an insult. Unless self-publishers feel insulted. I haven't read a comment on the other thread since I posted it. If someone wishes to avail self of my offer, they know how to find me.

Ian's book is excellent. I encourage you to read it.

Actually, direct would have been an email or private message to the individual you are seemingly criticizing. Good taste would have been to hold off on sharing your generous editing offer until later, so people wouldn't make the connection between the two. I have ordered Ian's book but have not read it yet, so cannot comment on the quality of the editing. Since it's published on Blurb, correcting errors for future printings should be simple, and hopefully those will get fixed.

Of course, the concept of good taste that I mentioned also wouldn't include the continual promotion of your writings that you opt to post on other sites instead of here.

You should consider having someone review your own work. For some masochistic reason, I went to Goflwrx to read your linked article (ooh  another click!). Some observations:
  • Left out the word "he" in the last sentence of paragraph 2
  • Used quotation marks for book titles when italics should be used (occurs in multiple paragraphs). Chapter titles would be in quotation marks.
  • Failed to italicize the title of the book (no quotation marks either) in paragraph 4
  • Left out punctuation at the end of the last sentence in paragraph 4
  • Extra comma after "so too" in paragraph 5
  • Em dash instead of commas would make a few of your sentences more readable. One good example is last sentence in paragraph 5.
  • More readable not to use a comma between Jones & Sr. (paragraph 6). Style guides differ on this, so not strictly wrong either way.
  • The second sentence in paragraph 6 is really convoluted: In the interview, Hansen claimed that Trent claimed that he, and not Thompson, had created....  Surely there is a better way to word this?
  • Each copy is published when ordered by the company is somewhat confusing. Wouldn't "printed" be clearer than "published?" And "ordered by the company" is wrong. The company is doing the printing - the buyer is doing the ordering. Right? last paragraph
I'm sure you will appreciate the feedback.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2020, 07:26:37 AM »
Land sakes, John Mayhugh, I'm blushing. Who would have thought a little old writer like me, from out-in-the-woods New York would garner the attention of a grand golf figure like your own self. What's more, you touk a heap of time from your day, to write up a detailed list of critiques, as a gesture of friendship-I thank you from my heart for the pointed and assistable feedback that you provided. It looks like we now have two fellers who are willing to edit for free. What a generous and magnanimous place this Golf Club Atlas is turning out to be.



Most people don't react to grammutical errors and punctiational fox paws like I do. I tend to shiver a bit when I see one, then I blinks my three eyes, to ensure that I did not misread the text. I then set to self-interrogation, where I blend a bit of meditative breathing with thoughtful consideration as to how such an error might have come to be. When they repeat themselves, as they clearly did in my most recent contribution to GolfWRX, my shiver count increases.


It's quite important for erudite folks like your own self to understand that I don't get paid by GolfWRX. Some of its employees and writers do, but I contribute to them because I have a Jonas to write. It's somewhat important for knowledgeable bodies like you to comprehend that the accusation of promotion demands that more than 1000 people will actually make a difference. 1000 visits to a site the size of GolfWRX, even in one day - ... - even in half of one day, or half of a half (which I believe is a third) of a day, is a drop in a spit can. Self-promotion also requires, my edumacators once told me, that one promote the self. In my articles, my humble self is never the topic. It is an event, a book, an interview subject.


I hope that this clarifies things. I could go on, but I'm running out of digital ink. I know that a scrupulous person such as yourself was aware from the beginning, but for the others who missed it, I might have tucked a few misgivings and topographical errors into this post, just to give you something to do on a rainy day.


I hope that we meet in person one day. I'd like to shake your hand.


with gratitude,


My Own Self
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~Soaring Eagles
~Bonavista
~Indian Hills
~Maybe some more!!

Tim Martin

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2020, 07:41:35 AM »
RoMo-You will have to travel far and wide to find an enemy greater than yourself.

John Mayhugh

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2020, 12:18:18 PM »
In my articles, my humble self is never the topic.
Your humility does come shining through in everything that you write.



Pete_Pittock

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2020, 02:52:44 PM »
It should be noted that Ian Andrew was deleting his reply posts  on the original thread about the book, that original thread on the book apparently no longer exists, and Ian appears to no longer being a member/contributor.


 
« Last Edit: May 15, 2020, 05:13:27 PM by Pete_Pittock »

JC Jones

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2020, 03:03:29 PM »
Im trying to think if there is one member of this forum that would rather hear from RoMo than Ian Andrew.  What a shame.
I get it, you are mad at the world because you are an adult caddie and few people take you seriously.

Excellent spellers usually lack any vision or common sense.

I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2020, 03:47:55 PM »
Land sakes, John Mayhugh, I'm blushing. Who would have thought a little old writer like me, from out-in-the-woods New York would garner the attention of a grand golf figure like your own self. What's more, you touk a heap of time from your day, to write up a detailed list of critiques, as a gesture of friendship-I thank you from my heart for the pointed and assistable feedback that you provided. It looks like we now have two fellers who are willing to edit for free. What a generous and magnanimous place this Golf Club Atlas is turning out to be.



Most people don't react to grammutical errors and punctiational fox paws like I do. I tend to shiver a bit when I see one, then I blinks my three eyes, to ensure that I did not misread the text. I then set to self-interrogation, where I blend a bit of meditative breathing with thoughtful consideration as to how such an error might have come to be. When they repeat themselves, as they clearly did in my most recent contribution to GolfWRX, my shiver count increases.


It's quite important for erudite folks like your own self to understand that I don't get paid by GolfWRX. Some of its employees and writers do, but I contribute to them because I have a Jonas to write. It's somewhat important for knowledgeable bodies like you to comprehend that the accusation of promotion demands that more than 1000 people will actually make a difference. 1000 visits to a site the size of GolfWRX, even in one day - ... - even in half of one day, or half of a half (which I believe is a third) of a day, is a drop in a spit can. Self-promotion also requires, my edumacators once told me, that one promote the self. In my articles, my humble self is never the topic. It is an event, a book, an interview subject.


I hope that this clarifies things. I could go on, but I'm running out of digital ink. I know that a scrupulous person such as yourself was aware from the beginning, but for the others who missed it, I might have tucked a few misgivings and topographical errors into this post, just to give you something to do on a rainy day.


I hope that we meet in person one day. I'd like to shake your hand.


with gratitude,


My Own Self
imho, a total waste of time

Sean_A

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2020, 04:18:37 PM »
It should be noted that Ian Andrew was deleting his reply posts, that the original thread on this book apparently no longer exists, and Ian appears to no longer being a member/contributor.

Thanks for driving him away.  (Sarcastically)

Peter

I hate to see Ian go, but let's be careful about dishing out blame. Ian is a big boy who can take care of himself. In the big scheme of things (or even GCA com!), this slight on Ian is small beer. If Ian wants to go, it's his choice. Blaming somebody isn't going to get things done.

Ciao
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John Mayhugh

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2020, 04:29:07 PM »
Sean,


Completely agree. No way I would blame Ron for causing Ian to leave GCA, especially having heard nothing from Ian on his reasons.


While I thought the post about free editing was in poor taste, it’s hardly a reason for extreme reaction.

PCCraig

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2020, 04:56:59 PM »

It's quite important for erudite folks like your own self to understand that I don't get paid by GolfWRX. Some of its employees and writers do, but I contribute to them because I have a Jonas to write. It's somewhat important for knowledgeable bodies like you to comprehend that the accusation of promotion demands that more than 1000 people will actually make a difference. 1000 visits to a site the size of GolfWRX, even in one day - ... - even in half of one day, or half of a half (which I believe is a third) of a day, is a drop in a spit can. Self-promotion also requires, my edumacators once told me, that one promote the self. In my articles, my humble self is never the topic. It is an event, a book, an interview subject.



If you just want to write, and don't get paid from GolfWrx, then why not just post your articles here? More people may actually read them?
H.P.S.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2020, 05:17:15 PM »
I edited my first post back to its original language.

Jeff_Brauer

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2020, 05:28:35 PM »

My quick book review:


I bought it, I read it, I liked it.


One highlight was that I had completely forgotten the stir the Cleopatra hole supposedly stirred.  And, new knowledge that it was never quite as tasteless as legend would have you believe.


The saddest part was learning that the end of his life wasn't a match for the success he had in his prime. 
Jeff Brauer, ASGCA Director of Outreach

Greg Gilson

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2020, 10:25:26 PM »
I liked the book a great deal & appreciate the effort that Ian put into it...including some nice photos he sent to me of Highlands Links back in the day. I am keen to learn more about Mr Thompson. Does anyone know where you can get a copy of "Toronto Terror" at a reasonable price?

Wayne_Kozun

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Re: A review of "In Every Genius There's A Little Madness"
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2020, 10:29:54 PM »
Does anyone know where you can get a copy of "Toronto Terror" at a reasonable price?
Abe books has some for about US$50. https://www.abebooks.com/Toronto-Terror-Life-Works-Stanley-Thompson/18077974078/bd