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Jeff Schley

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Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« on: April 20, 2020, 04:18:27 PM »
Very interesting article/scoring by Darius Oliver and I don't get on their site much, so some may have seen this already.

I honestly would have thought England would have won, but the population per course did them in or they would have. Although one of the more objective attempts at this very difficult debate. Also I would put the bucket list tour in England at a 10 as well. Way too many gems there to not give it top billing IMO.

I really like the Value Tour feature which comprises courses under $150 bucks during peak season. Really nice as not everyone wants to spend a mint each trip.  Kudos to Darius and certainly can't argue with the results much.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2020, 04:51:20 PM »
The listings of what the article terms the best courses in each of the 5 areas ought to tell the reader quite a bit.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2020, 05:36:40 PM »
I dislike when golf publications separate Northern Ireland from the rest.


It’s a one island game.

jeffwarne

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Re: Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2020, 05:53:10 PM »
Interesting analysis which comes to the wrong conclusion based on a flawed/meaningless data point.
"Population per course" MIGHT mean something(as if the everyday lives of inner city Londoners, and large cities in the industrial north has anything to do with access to mainly private golf clubs) but the stat that would mattter would be golf tourist population per course, in which case England blows Ireland/Scotland out of the water, especially if you're talking about the 5/15 courses they discuss which are inundated with tourists in Ireland and Scotland.
So England wins as logically we all know to be the right answer. :)




Value courses-somehow they found only 6 "good" courses in Ireland for under $150 US? Seriously?
Even at the new shockingly inflated green fee of Narin and Portnoo of 132 euros, using their exchange rate of 1.11 to $, it checks in under their "value" price for "good" courses of $150, yet doesn't make their Irish list?($150 not value IMHO but qualifies by their criteria)
Northwest golf club is more than "good"-must be too cheap at 30 euro
Strandill is certainly at least "good" yet nowhere to be found at 75 euro highest rate for an International visitor
Ballyliffin? two at least "good" courses at? Holy pandemic! just checked their 2020 rates  200 euros to play the Glashedy-just wow....
Donegal-while not value IMHO at $130 euro, it clocks in below their $150 US limit
Dunfanaghy-won't go there but...I prefer it to many and is certainly value at 25 or so euro
Cruit Island?


Sadly, all kind've irrelevant as those newly inflated prices are sure to crater very shortly, as they did post 2008



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Sean_A

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Re: Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2020, 07:11:47 PM »
Some strange criteria, but that always seems to be the case whenever criteria is listed  8)

I don't really think there is a huge difference between top 10 and top 25.  That said, Scotland certainly wins the well known bucket list sweepstakes.  When England has almost double the number of courses as the other countries combined, I don't think it is difficult to discern where most of the quality and crap golf is.

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Niall C

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Re: Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2020, 05:38:31 AM »
"Non-Open rota areas are perennially underrated in England."

I wonder if you changed "areas" to "courses" whether that could also be said of Scotland ? Once again this list demonstrates that Scottish golf consists of Gleneagles surrounded by nothing but coastal golf  ;)

Niall

Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Best play to play UK/Ireland - Links Magazine results
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2020, 12:34:57 PM »
Not sure why they wouldn't include Westward Ho! at 75 pounds especially if you are going to play Saint Enodoc and Saunton.
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