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Jerry Kluger

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2019, 02:53:40 PM »
Walked the course on Tuesday watching a fellow from my club who won the Mid Am last year - he was paired with the Senior Am and Junior Am winners which was very cool.  Course looked great and unfortunately our guy only made it to the playoff for the final spots and didn't get into the match play.  Course was wonderful to see and I am looking forward to playing it in the fall.  Position off the tee was critical as going at a green from the wrong angle can be as difficult as #2. The closely mowed areas around the green can be a real test to try and get up and down.  Hanse worked the holes around the lake beautifully creating a really good par 4 cape hole around the lake followed by a long par 3 with the lake coming into play.  Above it he built a new par 3 which is relatively short but has a long narrow green with bunkers left and steep drop off right. 


The matches will be played on #2 until the finals which will play 18 on #4 followed by 18 on #2.

Mike Sweeney

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2019, 05:47:33 PM »

The matches will be played on #2 until the finals which will play 18 on #4 followed by 18 on #2.


Jerry,


Thanks for posting that. I look forward to playing both (never played) as #2 looks fantastic today.
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Tommy Williamsen

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2019, 06:59:11 PM »
I played #4 two weeks ago. The kids could just beat it up unless they put the pins in some really tricky places. I’ll be curious to see how they play it.
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Buck Wolter

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2019, 09:52:03 AM »

Walked the course on Tuesday watching a fellow from my club who won the Mid Am last year - he was paired with the Senior Am and Junior Am winners which was very cool.  Course looked great and unfortunately our guy only made it to the playoff for the final spots and didn't get into the match play.  Course was wonderful to see and I am looking forward to playing it in the fall.  Position off the tee was critical as going at a green from the wrong angle can be as difficult as #2. The closely mowed areas around the green can be a real test to try and get up and down.  Hanse worked the holes around the lake beautifully creating a really good par 4 cape hole around the lake followed by a long par 3 with the lake coming into play.  Above it he built a new par 3 which is relatively short but has a long narrow green with bunkers left and steep drop off right. 


The matches will be played on #2 until the finals which will play 18 on #4 followed by 18 on #2.


Has the Am ever played the final match on 2 courses? Bizarre
Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience -- CS Lewis

Jerry Kluger

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2019, 01:55:53 PM »
I have a feeling that the Pinehurst Resort might have pushed for this and the USGA went along perhaps because it is a great venue for them.

Mark Pritchett

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2019, 05:36:08 PM »
Nothing “bizarre” about it, I think it is great.  Looking forward to the match tomorrow especially seeing No. 4 in match play.  What”s not to like?



astavrides

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2019, 07:26:41 PM »
What”s not to like?


The fact that the morning round on #4 is not televised.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2019, 07:47:30 PM »
depends on how close the match is. Still should be highlights.

Joe Zucker

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2019, 10:03:56 PM »

astavrides

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Jerry Kluger

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2019, 07:14:12 AM »
Thinking about #4 as I walked the course I could see that there was plenty of width, perhaps not as much as #2 but still pretty wide, but like I have learned from this site, angles approaching the green are so very important and what makes these course so special.  The fellow who I was following put himself in a bad position by pushing a number of his drives and simply had very little chance of hitting the ball anywhere near the flagstick.  His mistakes came about when he aimed at the flagsticks instead of going for a safer shot on the green but not necessarily close to the flag. Putting was also a challenge because the greens were very fast and putts going long could run on forever and possibly off the green.  I believe it was 17 that the junior champion pushed his second shot right of the green into a sand path where he was in some footprints, hit his second shot on the green but it ran at least 20 feet off the green into a closely mowed area, hit his next shot short and his next shot he got on the green.  So while the course wasn't playing that long it certainly was playing difficult.

Carl Rogers

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2019, 05:51:18 PM »
Given the complicated history of P#4, why not have a complete do over and start afresh?  What history is there to preserve?
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astavrides

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2019, 10:23:57 PM »
Does Pinehurst always keep the weeds in the waste areas as high and thick as they looked on TV? Seems like it would make it difficult to find one's ball.

Philip Hensley

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2019, 11:59:11 PM »
Does Pinehurst always keep the weeds in the waste areas as high and thick as they looked on TV? Seems like it would make it difficult to find one's ball.


I thought the same thing but in person they were not as high or thick as they looked on tv.

Paul Carey

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Re: Pinehurst #4, Hanse " Retrovation"
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2019, 09:24:07 AM »
Does Pinehurst always keep the weeds in the waste areas as high and thick as they looked on TV? Seems like it would make it difficult to find one's ball.


August is the time of year when the “weeds” are the thickest.  I played in the spring and they were dormant and were neither high nor thick.  I think they have done a great job replicating the native plants and their growth cycle.

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