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Jeff Schley

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Walton Heath - first impressions
« on: May 25, 2019, 10:15:05 AM »
Had a great day playing Walton Heath's Old and New courses this past week. First, as many know, this place has so much history from the 1981 Ryder Cup to James Braid being the first club pro for almost 50 years, as well as King Edward being the club captain while reigning are all notable and impressive. We played foursomes which is such a foreign concept in the states, but embraced in many places in England. The welcoming clubhouse and staff aside, the courses I wanted to note some impressions.

1. The Old starts with a demanding 235 yard par 3 which can produce some high scores as it gets tight up by the green with the road closing in on the right side. Got to hit a 5 wood flush and hopefully miss short or slightly left to keep it in play.
2. Hole 2 at the Old is also a tough uphill approach which was almost blind with the flag on the back.  I hooked my drive into the woods 50 yards left and had to have my partner walk back 100 or so yards to retee.  Ugh!
3. The #1 stroke hole is a bear which is hole 4. I used a 5 wood as the driver wasn't cooperating and did find the fairway and avoided the mid line bunker.  A long and hard par 4 with a large green which can be 3 jacked for sure.
4. We really enjoyed hole #12 which is a short dogleg to a smallish green (for WH), that requires precision long iron/5 wood off the tee.
5. There are 3 par 5's in a four hole stretch on the back where you can make up some shots.  I would prefer to space out scoring opportunities, but this day allowed for several birdies as the winds were pretty docile. If you can stay out of the heather you have a shot at hitting on in 2 or birdie putting at least.
6. My favorite hole was #16.  This is a fascinating hole that brings in the last huge tree on the left in play.  If you are left side of the fairway after your 2nd shot you are going to have to contend with this tree, or hit a big draw. If you miss, you are welcomed by the very deep bunker right of the green.  I love this hole because you have to think from the opening tee shot how you want to approach this green knowing you don't want to be left approaching this green. Loved the strategy and probably the most prominent hole where a tree comes into play while in the fairway.
7. Hole #18 is a tight drive with heather lining the fairway on both sides.  You have to hit a straight ball of the tee or face the consequences. Fairly narrow and deep green leaves approach shots needing to be the correct distance as well.
New Course
1. I love the start of this course with a relatively easy 300 yard par 4 to get warmed up. I like a gradual warm up and should be a relatively easy par to get you into the round.
2. The rest of the round consisted of tight fairways as the fairways were hard with more midline bunkers to roll into than the Old. The heather was not as thick as it could have been I was told and thank god for that.

3. Hole 16 is a very long par 5 which gives you 3 chances to find the heather before putting. We did birdie this one which was a miracle putt from 30 feet that hit the flagstick.
4. The New course seemed tighter and with only 1 par 3 on the back you had to hold on for dear life at the closing stretch. Also hole 17 is a drive able par 4 that we won after our opponents went for the green and hit on the 18th tee box.
Walton Heath is open to the public for those that have never been and demands accuracy.  You can't score here from the heather which comes into play almost everywhere off the fairway. Not a particularly difficult set of greens IMO as there aren't big undulations, but more subtle breaks with green speeds being not fast, but fair to hold lines. Stern test off the tee, thus I started finding success when I dialed back to my fairway woods for more accuracy.  WH I'll be back. ;D
"To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice your gifts."
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Jeff Schley

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Re: Walton Heath - first impressions
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2019, 05:53:42 AM »
Anyone hear anything about an update for moving the clubhouse across the street?  When I was there a couple months ago, the members said they would be taking a vote to the membership soon if it gets past a committee.
Would be a very nice change as it was quite the adrenalin crossing the street (looking in the opposite direction I'm used to) with cars bustling by.  I felt like the video game Frogger trying not to get hit.
"To give anything less than your best, is to sacrifice your gifts."
- Steve Prefontaine

Sean_A

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Re: Walton Heath - first impressions
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2019, 05:13:52 AM »
Jeff

WHO is a course I respect more than love. I used to to think the Old and New were much of a muchness, but not anymore.  The two courses do feel different and I think for the most part the patchwork of designers for WHO has made it an excellent course except for 1 & 8.  I only wish the fairways were pushed out to include the earthworks.  When playing the New one gets an idea of the puzzle Fowler created with its earthworks.  It looks like it would bave been a highly strategic design.

I think the club is going to vote on the change(s) very soon, although I expect the motions will sail through onto planning.  Lets hope they get the house right and figure out a good solution for the lost 1st.

Ciao
New plays planned for 2025: Ludlow, Machrihanish Dunes, Dunaverty and Carradale

James Boon

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Re: Walton Heath - first impressions
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2019, 04:18:30 PM »
Lets hope they get the house right and figure out a good solution for the lost 1st.


Sean,


I thought the plan was to build 2 new holes where the 12th is? Tee off around the 12th tee heading across to the New course, then the next hole returns back to the current 12th green? If you look on Google Maps or Bing it looks like they've already put the holes in place, just not in play yet?


Cheers,


James
2023 Highlights: Hollinwell, Brora, Parkstone, Cavendish, Hallamshire, Sandmoor, Moortown, Elie, Crail, St Andrews (Himalayas & Eden), Chantilly, M, Hardelot Les Pins, Alwoodley

Sean_A

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Re: Walton Heath - first impressions
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2019, 04:23:34 PM »
Lets hope they get the house right and figure out a good solution for the lost 1st.

Sean,

I thought the plan was to build 2 new holes where the 12th is? Tee off around the 12th tee heading across to the New course, then the next hole returns back to the current 12th green? If you look on Google Maps or Bing it looks like they've already put the holes in place, just not in play yet?

Cheers,

James

Boony

My impression is the 16th becomes the 1st with the new house behind the tee with easy access to the road.  Then a new hole must be created....probably a par 3.  I haven't seen any plans, but I am sure there must be some already drawn up because the vote is any day now.   

Ciao

New plays planned for 2025: Ludlow, Machrihanish Dunes, Dunaverty and Carradale

Michael Felton

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Re: Walton Heath - first impressions
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2019, 09:37:11 PM »
Lets hope they get the house right and figure out a good solution for the lost 1st.


Sean,


I thought the plan was to build 2 new holes where the 12th is? Tee off around the 12th tee heading across to the New course, then the next hole returns back to the current 12th green? If you look on Google Maps or Bing it looks like they've already put the holes in place, just not in play yet?


Cheers,


James


They have said that's not going to be the solution. I'm not sure what it will be. The maintenance holes are there for in the winter if they want to do some work somewhere so people can still play 18.