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Forrest Richardson

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Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« on: May 13, 2018, 08:04:59 PM »
For anyone in Northern California, or who may be there, we have a few openings for a preview round at Baylands Golf Links. The format will be a start Friday, May 25th at 1:30pm...probably 12 or 15 holes and then a gathering afterwards. The course officially opens the week following. You can email: valerie@golfgroupltd.com






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astavrides

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 08:39:00 PM »
Ah, the former Palo Alto Muni.
I wonder if it's changed enough that I can call Palo Alto my NLE #41 (see other thread on front page now).
Thanks for the invite. If I can't make think of another excuse to fly in from Albuquerque for that weekend, I'll definitely check it out next time I'm in that area. The photo looks good-definitely like a different course now.

Forrest Richardson

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2018, 12:14:49 PM »
Happy to have you. Not sure why the photo I posted is not cropping...? Posting images on GCA, believe it or not, has gotten better over the years!! 
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2018, 10:00:15 PM »
Darn! Busy that day but can't wait to see the new course very soon.

Forrest Richardson

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2018, 07:57:33 PM »
So far three RSVPs. Look forward to seeing you all there. Valerie has room for another foursome, so let her know.
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Ian_L

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2018, 03:17:47 AM »
I had the pleasure of playing Baylands on Friday and will definitely be back. Fairways are quite wide (nearly all mowed areas are at fairway height), but on most holes the angle of approach is quite important.  The thoughtful player will have a leg up after getting a few rounds under his belt. I look forward to seeing how the course evolves as the fairways firm up and allow for more ground game.


There is a need for good public golf on the peninsula, and this course certainly qualifies.  Thanks Forrest!

Forrest Richardson

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2018, 06:57:24 PM »
Thanks Ian. Great time seemed to be had...glad you had fun.
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Mike Benham

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2018, 11:44:41 PM »

I played the latest version of Palo Alto Muni (aka Baylands) last Sunday afternoon, on a typical windy (+15-25 MPH) afternoon.  I believe this is the 4th version of the course since I first teed it up in the early '70s. 


The redesign is interesting, I like the back 9 is better than the front, with wide (connecting fairways on a few holes) undulating (machine-made) fairways, interesting greens and a pretty good set of par 3s.  Punchbowl, tiers, swales, front-to-back camber are all features in these green sites.  They removed a ton of trees, left a few strategic ones so it is viewed as a wide open landscape.


The front 9 has 3 holes that make me scratch my silver locks, narrow, an elevated green, water (or at least what I assume will be water) encroaching the fairway, spells disaster for the bogey golfer.  Just doesn't seem to click to me as a set-up for fast play (or not slow play) in this stretch.


The fairway grass, I assume, was chosen for this environment and poor soil is longish and soft now, hopefully it will firm up in the future.  The native areas, which is all the containment mounding and "creeks" are weeds and rocks, hopefully that is not the intended maintenance meld of those areas.


And it is still windy ... but hey, that's PA Muni in the afternoon ...






The rumpled fairway of the par 4 2nd hole, windsock gives a clue as to the wind direction.









The par 3 4th hole, 184 yards from the back tees, 140 yards from the middle, a bowl shaped green.  This was a front hole location and with a helping cross wind, a challenging tee shot to get it close to the hole.









The par 3 8th (same hole/routing as the prior layout), viewed from behind the back of the green, 223 yards from the tips, 193 yards from the blues, straight downwind and the hole was cut a few paces past the fronting bunker, ZERO chance of staying on the lower tier.









The tee shot on the par 5 9th hole, the trees on the right are some of the few that remain but Forrest moved the bunkers from the right rough to centerline bunkers.  This is a double wide fairway, sharing with the 1st hole, so the trees offer some deterrent from blindly blasting your tee ball right of the bunkers.  If you can do so on this straight downwind hole, you have a fair shot of reaching the green in two.





The par 4 11th hole, 411 yards into the wind, wide fairway to the right and the green hooks around to the left behind the mounding.









Approach shot into the 11th hole.









The par 3 12th, 153 yards into the prevailing wind.  Slightly downhill and the back shelf is lower than the front 2/3 of the green, nice hole.  I can only assume that the depression area will be filled with water.









The par 3 15th hole, 143 yards downwind.  The right half of the double green.









The shortish par 4 16th hole, tons of room to the left side of the fairway, but play the tee ball towards the bunker on the far right and you will have the best angle to the green.  The wind is left to right and helping on this hole so you can easily end up on the native weeds.









The long approach into the par 5 18th hole.  I believe that this green location is nearly the same and shape as the old 18th but the approach is from a slightly different angle.  As the 10th/18th share a fairway, might be an opportunity to hit your tee shot about 40 yards right of these bunkers to shorten the hole.




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Tim Leahy

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 12:55:28 AM »
Reminds me of Metro across the bay.
I love golf, the fightin irish, and beautiful women depending on the season and availability.

Matt_Cohn

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Re: Baylands Golf Links - Silicon Valley May 25th
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 01:06:03 PM »
Here are a few more pictures from a drive around yesterday. It looks fun, with a lot of local knowledge opportunities and some wild hole locations whenever they want to use them.