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Matt MacIver

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #100 on: June 15, 2017, 07:00:03 AM »
I've never been to Portrush or RCD, but doesn't one or both have some serious bunch to deal with?  With narrower fairways, blind shots and just as much wind?  On this basis alone, EH should identify the best player this weekend.

Mike_Young

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #101 on: June 15, 2017, 07:01:02 AM »
Na was right.  It doesn't matter how wide it is/was.  Irrigation and fertilizer create a rough closer ot the fairway which is a harder recovery than deeper rough.  All of this so it could green from wall to wall....AND ALSO golf course looks great...
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Kalen Braley

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #102 on: June 15, 2017, 11:50:06 AM »
The reality is, they won't be looking for their golf balls, the armies of spotters will...


But either way, I don't have a fundamental problem with the best players not being able to hit a 60-70 yard fairway.....

JJShanley

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #103 on: June 15, 2017, 11:55:50 AM »
What about Lee Westwood's video?  He had someone video him swimming out of the rough.  I thought it conveyed the conditions without a hint of complaint.

Thomas Dai

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #104 on: June 15, 2017, 12:17:10 PM »
What about Lee Westwood's video?  He had someone video him swimming out of the rough.  I thought it conveyed the conditions without a hint of complaint.


In the video I've seen it's not Lee but his longterm caddy Billy Foster. Is there another video?
Atb

JJShanley

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #105 on: June 15, 2017, 01:01:27 PM »
What about Lee Westwood's video?  He had someone video him swimming out of the rough.  I thought it conveyed the conditions without a hint of complaint.


In the video I've seen it's not Lee but his longterm caddy Billy Foster. Is there another video?
Atb


I assumed it was Lee, but yes that video.

Keith Grande

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #106 on: June 15, 2017, 05:39:55 PM »
FYI - Rory, on his first tee shot of the day, nearly put it in the fescue...less than 2 yards away I would say...should he have packed it up and gone home if he did :)?

Kalen Braley

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #107 on: June 15, 2017, 05:59:39 PM »
FYI - Rory, on his first tee shot of the day, nearly put it in the fescue...less than 2 yards away I would say...should he have packed it up and gone home if he did :) ?


I snuck into the back of his hotel and found this, so I assume he was ready!!   ;D



David_Tepper

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #108 on: June 15, 2017, 07:20:23 PM »
Kevin Na shoots -4. Would love to see him win it. ;)

John Kavanaugh

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #109 on: June 15, 2017, 07:23:42 PM »
Kevin Na shoots -4. Would love to see him win it. ;)


For well you know it's a fool who plays it cool. Na, na, na....

Craig Sweet

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #110 on: June 15, 2017, 07:49:55 PM »
Mr Bauer..."[size=78%]Actually, Geoff S posted the problem is irrigation overspray makes the first five feet of native/fescue overly thick.  A common problem when you don't want to spring for part circle heads around your perimeters."[/size]


[/size]#1 The Super isn't stupid, he knows what he's doing, and if the USGA didn't want the fescue that thick it wouldn't be that thick. "Overspray" what a joke.[size=78%]

[/size]#2 Erin Hills certainly can afford any kind of sprinkler head they want. It isn't out of being cheap...total BS by Geoff S....
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LOCK HIM UP!!!

jeffwarne

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #111 on: June 15, 2017, 07:50:36 PM »
Kevin Na shoots -4. Would love to see him win it. ;)


While Rory stays in the shite-all day
Ironic
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

James Brown

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2017, 08:18:22 PM »
My two cents:  Erin Hills just looks fake.  Bombers paradise.  524 yard par four is a Driver, 8-iron.  632 yard par five is two 3-Woods.  Great. 

Matthew Essig

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #113 on: June 15, 2017, 08:23:56 PM »
My two cents:  Erin Hills just looks fake.  Bombers paradise.  524 yard par four is a Driver, 8-iron.  632 yard par five is two 3-Woods.  Great.


Cause the fairways are drying up, the holes you mentioned are downwind, and they mow the fairways toward the green. Great.
"Good GCA should offer an interesting golfing challenge to the golfer not a difficult golfing challenge." Jon Wiggett

James Brown

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2017, 08:55:55 PM »
7845 yards.  And best scores ever. 

Terry Lavin

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #115 on: June 15, 2017, 09:02:47 PM »
First day at the US Open is usually a birdie fest. If there's nae wind on the weekend, they'll be tucking pins and protecting par.
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

Keith Grande

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #116 on: June 15, 2017, 09:23:02 PM »
Kevin Na:  "The short hitters don't have to worry about the fescue, they usually hit it pretty straight"




David_Tepper

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #117 on: June 15, 2017, 09:39:33 PM »
I see Erin Hills as pretty much the GCA ideal: wide fairways, slopes & movement in the fairways, some centerline bunkers, plenty of short grass around the greens, etc. Plus, no obsession with "protecting par."

What's not to like? ;)

Plus.....no trees!
 
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Matthew Essig

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #118 on: June 16, 2017, 01:11:30 AM »
I see Erin Hills as pretty much the GCA ideal: wide fairways, slopes & movement in the fairways, some centerline bunkers, plenty of short grass around the greens, etc. Plus, no obsession with "protecting par."

What's not to like? ;)


Exactly. Just waiting for the course to dry out
"Good GCA should offer an interesting golfing challenge to the golfer not a difficult golfing challenge." Jon Wiggett

Tim Martin

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #119 on: June 16, 2017, 05:58:56 AM »
The golf course looks fantastic! Looking forward to a great tournament.

jeffwarne

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #120 on: June 16, 2017, 08:37:10 AM »
The golf course looks fantastic! Looking forward to a great tournament.


+1
If I hear one more comparison to Chambers Bay I'm going to barf.

Erin Hills-slightly soft (for the moment) due to a wet spring and heavy rain earlier in the week.
While I get the modern need for "perfect" fescue, often mother nature doesn't cooperate and those who set up the course for an event (or daily play) have to make decision as to how much and where they want to cut it back.
But at least it's something that can be done.
It's certainly better than a bank of gorse which often lines one or both sides of fairways at great UK courses leaving even a smaller findable corridor to drive in with NO chace of finding or playing the ball.
The fact that 2 foot fescure is near a fairway is what some players find objectionable(forgetting how wide the actual corridor is), but narrowing the super wide fairways would satisfy that gripe and be a poor solution as it would disable angles.



« Last Edit: June 16, 2017, 08:50:37 AM by jeffwarne »
"Let's slow the damned greens down a bit, not take the character out of them." Tom Doak
"Take their focus off the grass and put it squarely on interesting golf." Don Mahaffey

Mike Schott

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Re: Kevin Na on Erin Hills and Fescue
« Reply #121 on: June 16, 2017, 10:17:03 AM »
I see Erin Hills as pretty much the GCA ideal: wide fairways, slopes & movement in the fairways, some centerline bunkers, plenty of short grass around the greens, etc. Plus, no obsession with "protecting par."

What's not to like? ;)


Bingo! I was pretty impressed with the course from what I saw yesterday. Even the is a very good hole. It's short and plays from a good angle. It might be a bear with a harder pin position and for higher handicaps.

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