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MClutterbuck

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2016, 08:51:08 AM »

I would play the Bluffs Ho Tram, the latest Norman course. I have seen pictures and talked to people involved and I dont doubt it should be a great course.


www.thebluffshotram.com




David Davis

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2016, 09:18:18 AM »

I would play the Bluffs Ho Tram, the latest Norman course. I have seen pictures and talked to people involved and I dont doubt it should be a great course.


www.thebluffshotram.com


When all travels go well, I will play this course on Friday. Everyone I know that played it so far seemed to really enjoy it and several suggest it to be World Top 100 material. Quite a compliment I suppose whether it ends up there or not.


It will be about 90 degrees so I'm hoping for windy links golf conditions.
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MClutterbuck

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2016, 09:49:18 AM »

I would play the Bluffs Ho Tram, the latest Norman course. I have seen pictures and talked to people involved and I dont doubt it should be a great course.


www.thebluffshotram.com


When all travels go well, I will play this course on Friday. Everyone I know that played it so far seemed to really enjoy it and several suggest it to be World Top 100 material. Quite a compliment I suppose whether it ends up there or not.


It will be about 90 degrees so I'm hoping for windy links golf conditions.


Please report back!

Bill_McBride

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2016, 08:02:52 PM »
As much as I love golf, there are a few other things to keep a man busy day and night there.


Tiger was the consummate Bon vivant!  😀

David Davis

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2016, 09:50:21 AM »
A quick and dirty report, just back from my Asia trip. The Bluffs is an excellent course on a very interesting property. Definitely very links like but not yet playing extremely firm and fast.


There is excellent variation but I note that there are quite a few holes that are designed to really display views and what's coming. For example, elevated tee on dunes to lower fairway back up to elevated green. Of course nothing wrong with that. It's a windy site, which was really welcome given the very hot conditions we played in. There is a very long ride and a bit of a break in the flow of the routing between the 3rd and 4th hole (we walked as much as possible but also rode in the cart at a couple points). I suspect given the fact that this is a resort course 99% of the people will use carts. The fact that it's always warm there will keep this number quite high.


There are a couple holes that definitely could be considered excellent holes that I find too penal given the windy conditions. The par 3, 4th hole is simply beautiful but watching a few very good players all lose their balls with not too bad of shots made me think of other penal Greg Norman designs. Personally, I see that as a mild flaw in his (teams) routings. I suspect this will have to be softened in the future but the hole is certainly exciting to play. All or nothing is bit tough when playing into that much wind. If it were a private members club, sure no issues there but as a resort course perhaps it's a bit too much.


Even with a couple little issues like this The Bluffs is an excellent course and certainly a Top 100 World contender.


One other side note that must be added IMO. I would very highly recommend that anyone going to Vietnam pay this wonderful place a visit. Next to Shanqin Bay they may have the best service I've ever experienced at a golf club. Ben and Sonia and their staff are amazing and extremely helpful with what can be slightly intimidating travel to the region there. They help with visa's in advance, pick up their guests inside of customs, can't tell you how big of a relief that proved to be and hold your hand through the process, not to mention arrange the transfer to the hotel which is about 2.5 hours. While it's well known that service levels in Asia are off the charts, The Bluffs gets everything right and I'll definitely return with family next time. I would start any golf trip to Vietnam based on my experience for this reason alone. Unless of course your all about doing it the hard way and roughing it through several hours of waiting in customs lines which is exactly what I avoided.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2016, 12:11:07 PM »
Even with a couple little issues like this The Bluffs is an excellent course and certainly a Top 100 World contender.


Well, every course is a contender.

Greg Gilson

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2016, 01:36:46 PM »
Even with a couple little issues like this The Bluffs is an excellent course and certainly a Top 100 World contender.





Well, every course is a contender.

Get David Smith involved and its a certainty

David Davis

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Re: Golf in Vietnam
« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2016, 02:51:19 PM »
ok fair statements, every course is a contender but certainly not a legitimately considered. There are 300 courses in The Netherlands alone and I promise that 296 of them are not legitimate contenders for the world Top 100, no matter how you look at it.


I'm being diplomatic.
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