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Ran Morrissett

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Trees, complete with their lengthy roots and limbs, are a vital topic for many clubs, especially those in North America.

In his latest In My Opinion submission, Joe Sponcia enumerates the many problems they cause, including cracked cart paths, reduced sunlight and wind, poor turf quality and diminished angles of play. Yet, poor tree management persists. It’s sadly ironic that Joe’s post sprouts forth just ahead of the telecast from that over-treed course in Georgia!

Here is the link:

http://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/sponcia-joe-trees-on-the-golf-course-a-common-sense-approach/

No doubt, specimen trees are gorgeous and  trees hit at the heart of club politics in that it is certainly easier to bow to inertia (i.e. just let an existing tree grow … and grow) than be proactive. 

Yet, this isn’t the 1970s. Coast to coast, preeminent clubs like NGLA, Shinnecock, Oakmont, Waverley and the Cal Club have charted a clear (no pun intended!) path forward. Dunlop White, the Ross Society and others have validated and expounded upon the problems of tree excesses and the benefits of removal for well over a decade now. Furthermore, if you check the rankings, courses with long views are surging and those with stunted views are slumping.

Stupidity (as opposed to ignorance) is the prime culprit for poor tree management. Mustering sympathy for clubs paralyzed into inaction is impossible, at least for me. Tree removal shouldn’t be an intimidating subject. Clubs don’t have to get every single tree 'right' to make progress, just the majority. Every club has some trees that polarize but that handful can’t bog down progress - revisit them next year.

The blueprint for best practices exists and the best clubs have shown the way. Golf courses are not meant to be arboreta. Meekly following an established tree-planting program, even a venerated one is no longer an excuse; it’s  mismanagement! 

Joe's ultimate advice is spot on when he concludes: 'Above all, enlist the help of an expert.  The USGA has regional arborists that can do a site survey and provide a thorough report that will touch on many aspects mentioned in this essay.  The American Society of Golf Architects is another great resource to turn to if and when an objective expert is needed.  Undoubtedly, the greatest objections to many of the points discussed will come from the least educated among us.'

Joe’s piece makes an excellent report card; have a read and you’ll know 'quick smart' what kind of a grade your club deserves for its arboreal practices.

Best,
« Last Edit: April 10, 2016, 10:20:16 AM by Ran Morrissett »

PCCraig

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2016, 02:55:27 PM »
Joe's piece is nothing short of outstanding. Thank you very much for putting it together, Joe!
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Kevin_Reilly

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2016, 04:54:35 PM »
Nicely done, Joe.

Did you give consideration to the "safety" debate re: trees?  There was an active thread on that topic on this board last year.  There is a view held by some (or many) that trees provide protection from wayward shots.
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Brad Treadwell

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2016, 11:26:50 PM »
Another excellent piece Joe....well done!

Terry Lavin

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2016, 01:05:06 PM »
Well done.  I've already forwarded it on to our club's grounds chairman who is a real hugger.
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BHoover

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2016, 01:29:15 PM »
Wow, Joe, what a well-written and persuasive article. Excellent work. I've sent your article to several friends whose courses are dealing with tree (removal) issues.

Mark Pearce

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 09:07:04 AM »
Thanks, Joe.  Like Terry, I've forwarded a link to our Greens Committee Chairman.
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Thomas Dai

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 11:22:50 AM »
Excellent piece Joe. Well done. I have also forwarded it to powers that be.


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Joe Bausch

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2016, 10:39:56 PM »
I learned much from that article.  Thanks, Joe.
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mike_malone

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2016, 09:57:12 AM »
I think there are positive factors for some types of trees.
Parkland courses are naturally home to trees. Classic designers integrated them into the design best by creating doglegs or wide corridors of play.
My analysis of my home course shows an 80 yard wide corridor as the standard.
Trees that were planted in the early years were hardwoods that were planted beyond where the longest drives would go, they separated the holes, and provided a backdrop.
Several holes used the trees that were there originally in an essential way so that eliminating them now would compromise safety and the original design intent.
My reputation for being anti tree is actually being pro original design.
I believe we have gone too far in our disdain for trees.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2016, 10:08:29 AM by mike_malone »
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Joe Sponcia

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2016, 11:45:27 AM »
Mike,


I would say the 'disdain for trees' only represents a minuscule amount of the general golf population.  On Golf Club Atlas, the atmosphere is much different.  Generally speaking, many more GCA guys travel than do your 'average' player/member. 


The top 200 have largely bought into the case for trees, many of the post-1950 designs (again, in general) have not.   



Joe


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mike_malone

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2016, 12:59:49 PM »
I did not intend to disagree with your fine article. I just have experienced too much dismissiveness from the supposedly well informed that think every tree should go. 
Many who know me would think someone hacked my account based on my previous post!
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Sean_A

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2016, 02:07:29 PM »
Mayday


I don't think Joe advocates for the elimination of all trees. I read that Joe advocates


tree removal for turf health
tree removal to open lines of play
tree removal for variety
tree removal to showcase the best specimens
tree removal for maintenance savings


That all sounds reasonable.  Its very rare that I see a tree removal program go overboard.  In the vast majority of cases trees are still an issue on most courses which have trees. 


Joe...thanks for the fine piece.  I see you used one of my pix...very fine.


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mike_malone

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Re: Joe Sponcia's Trees on the Golf Course now posted under IMO
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2016, 02:21:02 PM »
Agree Sean.
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