Trevose - Planned Improvements

[Tim Gallant]

I saw the below link on the Trevose website, that Mackenzie & Ebert have delivered their initial report on changes to be made to the Championship & Headland courses. I haven't played either course, but thought it was really neat to read their analysis and proposed changes. With some other big projects happening at the moment, I wonder how much time they will spend on site.


http://www.trevose-gc.co.uk/admin/uploads/Trevose%20course%20design%20changes.pdf


Thoughts from those who have played the courses?

[Tommy Williamsen]

Interesting. I guess the answer to fixing a hole is to add bunkers and reshape the greens.  I am a fan of good bunkers but these may be too penal.
I played the course about ten years ago and was disappointed by it and really don't remeber much about it. I thought it was a missed opportunity, although I didn't think the terrain was all that compelling to begin with.

[Adrian_Stiff]

They have great soil and there are some nice bits around 3 and 4, that is about it though.


To me it needs a complete re-do, get rid of those cross hedges and get the bulldozers in. There is enough elevation change to chop that landscape up and create something really good. If you got a good shaper in there, he could plus or minus that to 2 metres and create some proper interest.

[Garland Bayley]

So fairway lines around bunkers have to be changed so that balls will stop in the rough before getting to the bunker?
If you are going to add fairway bunkers, why not add then in the fairway, instead of creating rough around them?

[Mark Saltzman]

I was a tremendous fan of Trevose (perhaps the role of expectations in this judgment?).  Exceptional tie-ins of greens to surrounds. 

I'm somewhat shocked at the suggestions re the 13th.  It has to be rare that saving bunkers make a hole better (and I can't see how they do in this case, either).

[jeffwarne]

I'm a bit afraid to ask Niall his opinion of the bunkers

[Sam Krume]

As much as the good people down at Trevose are so welcoming, unfortunately the course just doesn't stand up to the courses along that stretch of coast line IMO. It is a wonderful spot but the course just lacks that something

[Thomas Dai]

I'm a bit afraid to ask Niall his opinion of the bunkers

I feel the same about mentioning affiliations!


As to Trevose, nice to see revisions to the 9th and 13th, the two poorest holes on the course IMO. Some of the other holes are pretty fine though. The course was previously beefed-up a bit prior to the Brabazon Trophy being held there in 2008.


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[Mike Policano]

I played Trevose a couple of years ago. I am a big Colt fan. And while Trevose is not Swinley, is any of the proposed work restoring original Colt features and bunkers?

[Frank Pont]

I played Trevose a couple of years ago. I am a big Colt fan. And while Trevose is not Swinley, is any of the proposed work restoring original Colt features and bunkers?

No. No historic analysis. Nobody seems to care....  at least they are not building revetted pot bunkers

[Tim Gallant]

I played Trevose a couple of years ago. I am a big Colt fan. And while Trevose is not Swinley, is any of the proposed work restoring original Colt features and bunkers?

No. No historic analysis. Nobody seems to care....  at least they are not building revetted pot bunkers

Why do you think no historical analysis was done? Time and money? Or do you think that M&E didn't think there was enough merit in the design of the course as it originated?

[Adam Lawrence]

I played Trevose a couple of years ago. I am a big Colt fan. And while Trevose is not Swinley, is any of the proposed work restoring original Colt features and bunkers?

No. No historic analysis. Nobody seems to care....  at least they are not building revetted pot bunkers

Why do you think no historical analysis was done? Time and money? Or do you think that M&E didn't think there was enough merit in the design of the course as it originated?

I don't know about Frank, but I personally think the club is not interested.

[Sean_A]

Adam

The course doesn't strike me as a strong effort if there is a lot of Colt remaining.  How much Colt is there?  Is  there something (other than making bunkers look pretty for petes sake) missing at Trevose which can be restored?

Ciao

[Thomas Dai]

......the club is not interested.

Isn't Trevose family owned and run as a business/livelihood (rather than being a traditional members owned club)?


Nice place though what the main 18-hole course, the lessor spec 9-holer, the par-3 course, on-site swimming and tennis, nearby surfing plus loads of on-site accommodation. And the clubhouse has one of the best views in GB golf.


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[Adam Lawrence]

Adam

The course doesn't strike me as a strong effort if there is a lot of Colt remaining.  How much Colt is there?  Is  there something (other than making bunkers look pretty for petes sake) missing at Trevose which can be restored?

Ciao

I haven't studied it in any detail Sean, so I am probably not best placed to judge