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Josh Tarble

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What is it about Augusta National?
« on: April 13, 2013, 08:35:54 PM »
This year is again shaping up for a memorable Sunday. So what is it about ANGC that allows it to continually produces amazing tournaments?

How much is because its the only venue they play year after year?

Jason Thurman

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 08:48:47 PM »
I think a lot of it is the way the course presents such a fine line between glory and disaster.

The back 9 in particular might be the ultimate set of risk/reward holes in golf. You have to hit great shots on 10 and 11 just to make pars, and getting bold on either hole can mean birdie or double. Then, the stretch from 13-16 is just wonderful.

13 hasn't really reared its head this week yet, but it likely will tomorrow. Someone will make an eagle and jump into contention. Someone will hook a tee shot into the trees or a second into the hazard and drop out.

14 is fantastic. The way a perfect shot can stick close to the pin, while one that misses by a foot or two feeds into 3-putt territory makes it one of the rare holes in the world on which angles still matter for elite players.

15 is perhaps the most delicate "power" second shot in the game. There's so much disaster lurking on that hole, even for players who lay up. But it's also a real eagle opportunity. Like 13, it creates lots of birdies and lots of bogeys or worse.

16 has those brilliant green contours that can feed a smart shot toward its target and repel poorly struck or thought out shots away from it.

Then, 17 and 18 are just tough holes that force a champion to make great swings to get it home.

Augusta National must have the best final 9 holes in tournament golf. The potential for huge swings is all over the place, and the demands of the player are about as complete a test of his game as those posed by any other course in the world. Everything from driving to long irons to short irons to chipping to putting is tested sternly in a stretch of 9 holes. That's what I think makes the tournament so consistently exciting. Unlike a US Open, you can go low. But disaster also lurks unlike at any other tournament I can think of.
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Patrick_Mucci

Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2013, 08:57:49 PM »


This year is again shaping up for a memorable Sunday. So what is it about ANGC that allows it to continually produces amazing tournaments?

The membership, the leadership and the golf course.


How much is because its the only venue they play year after year?

Very little

« Last Edit: April 13, 2013, 09:34:38 PM by Patrick_Mucci »

Bill Gayne

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2013, 09:32:51 PM »
Because the back nine is like a roller coaster and not everybody is on the same track.. Over time, the changes to the course have been well balanced with the changes in the professional game.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2013, 10:15:16 PM »
What is it about Pinehurst #2? Play it every year.

What is it about St. Andrews? Play it every year.

What is it about Bushwood? Play it every year (as long as it blows up each time...the golfing equivalent of "oh no, they killed Kenny -- You bastards!)
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danielfaleman

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2013, 11:05:53 PM »
Playing year after year is the difference.

Jim Nugent

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2013, 12:20:27 AM »
This year is again shaping up for a memorable Sunday. So what is it about ANGC that allows it to continually produces amazing tournaments?

How much is because its the only venue they play year after year?

Playing there each year (it's not the only venue that does this) is part of the reason.  It gives ANGC an annual laboratory.  They see what works and what they need to change to keep the course relevant to the world's best, under major tournament conditions. 

It also means the players come to know the course quite well.  They know where they can make big moves, and how to do it.  Local knowledge at work. 

None of this would mean anything if the course weren't so spectacular, and the club so charged with producing exciting tournaments. 




 

Bill Gayne

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2013, 07:16:22 AM »
There's plenty of tour stops that get played year after year.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2013, 07:33:22 AM »
+1 Patrick Mucci..

IMHO, playing Augusta on Masters Sunday would be terrifying.  One tiny mistake at the wrong place, and you're toast.   Conversely, one great shot at the right time may win it for you.

I love it!

Josh Tarble

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2013, 08:39:15 AM »
Thanks for th responses...I agree that part of what makes it so compelling is how thin the line is between tragedy and glory. 

I also think another key part of his equation is that so many people could pick something different and they wouldn't be wrong.

Jason Topp

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2013, 08:59:42 AM »
The course has a lot to do with it. 

A friend of mine who had a 0 handicap played there 4 times on a weekend when the course was soft.  He played from the members tees twice and shot 76 and 86.  He played from the tournament tees twice and shot 76 and 86.  He felt that he hit the ball extremely well in both rounds from the back tees. 

You see the same impact on player scores in the Masters.  Scores fluctuate more wildly than they do at other events even though water is less in play at Augusta than it is at most tour stops.

Mike Hendren

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2013, 09:15:00 AM »
With apologies to Stefanopolis, it's the course, stupid. ;)

Arguably it is the best golf course in the world.  While trees and water are generally decried on this website, both are liberally utililized in a briliant manner to provide as much strategy as one will find on any golf course (excepting the added trees on the 7th and 11th).  There are zero breather holes, with each of the 18 holes offering the potential for bogey or worse.  It has length, width AND quirk - the latter being grossly underrated IMHO.

Perhaps it places too much of a premium on putting at today's green speeds.  That, and the over-mulching of pine straw are the only critisms I can think of.


Above all else,  unlike the venues for the three other major championships, it defends par without relying on excessive wind, narrowed fairways or absurd rough be it native or cultivated.

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Phil McDade

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2013, 10:16:06 AM »
I think a lot of it is the way the course presents such a fine line between glory and disaster.


Augusta National must have the best final 9 holes in tournament golf. The potential for huge swings is all over the place, and the demands of the player are about as complete a test of his game as those posed by any other course in the world. Everything from driving to long irons to short irons to chipping to putting is tested sternly in a stretch of 9 holes. That's what I think makes the tournament so consistently exciting. Unlike a US Open, you can go low. But disaster also lurks unlike at any other tournament I can think of.

Jason:

I think you've got this precisely right. The fine line is what makes it such a great tournament.

astavrides

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Re: What is it about Augusta National?
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2013, 08:45:56 PM »
cbs instead of nbc doing the broadcast and having a reduced number of commercials.