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Tommy Williamsen

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You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« on: April 27, 2017, 09:38:38 PM »
You meet someone and after you find out his hometown your first question is, "Have you played X course?"
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Peter Pallotta

Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 09:52:26 PM »
...when a dear long-lost friend calls to treat you to a round at his local course and you find yourself thinking not "thank you" but "who designed it?"
All this study of gca is bound to make us a cold, heartless people in the end :)
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MCirba

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 10:12:57 PM »
When you not only know off the top of your head that John Kosydar designed the 2,200 yard par 33 nine-hole Scott Greens Golf Course in Montdale, PA in 1961 but also that Hank Gavlinski (regrettably) re-routed original holes 6, 7, & 8 in 1990 due to too many tee shots on 6 ending up in the parking lot of the Bamboo Room Banquet Hall to the left of the fairway.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 10:20:38 PM by MCirba »
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Gene Greco

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2017, 11:09:53 PM »
Quote from: MCirba on April 27, 2017, 10:12:57 PM
When you not only know off the top of your head that John Kosydar designed the 2,200 yard par 33 nine-hole Scott Greens Golf Course in Montdale, PA in 1961 but also that Hank Gavlinski (regrettably) re-routed original holes 6, 7, & 8 in 1990 due to too many tee shots on 6 ending up in the parking lot of the Bamboo Room Banquet Hall to the left of the fairway.


Bo knows, er, my buddy Mike knows golf course architecture..



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Kalen Braley

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2017, 11:35:40 PM »
...when you travel to the Monterrey area and refuse to even drive by Poppy Hills....
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Matt_Cohn

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 01:00:48 AM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on April 27, 2017, 11:35:40 PM
...when you travel to the Monterrey area and refuse to even drive by Poppy Hills....


That's a mistake!
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Matthew Essig

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2017, 02:32:51 AM »
...when you know Pebble Beach may not even break the top 5 for best designed courses on the peninsula. Views, history, etc... sure. But it lost its edge over the years.
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Carl Nichols

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 09:34:01 AM »
When you meet someone from Minneapolis in a work setting, find out he plays golf, and then have a long discussion about courses there--even though you've never played golf in the state of Minnesota.
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Mike Dutton

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2017, 10:41:46 AM »
When you are one of the Founding Members (and Vice President) of the Society for the Appreciation of the Golden Age of American Golf Course Architecture (SAGAAGCA), Seth Raynor Chapter...and there are only 2 1/2 other members....and you're OK with that.
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Ira Fishman

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2017, 12:22:24 PM »
When your wife tells you to shut up because she is tired of hearing about every thread on GCA.  And she is a golfer!
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Ted Sirbaugh

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2017, 12:36:22 PM »
When you're playing a course for the first time with a member, but you're the one telling the member things about the course that he didn't know
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2017, 12:36:28 PM »
Tommy,


I subscribe to that periodical...someone drops a locale and I reference it via the golf course.
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John Kavanaugh

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2017, 12:45:18 PM »
When you stop correcting people you know are mistaken because you know everything you have learned is wrong
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David Wuthrich

Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 12:58:22 PM »
Your kids reference to geography/cities is it close to specific golf course I have played.
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Peter Pallotta

Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 02:39:19 PM »
And we're giving all these excellent examples without even a hint of either irony or self pity!
Remarkable, really...
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Kalen Braley

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2017, 03:35:12 PM »
When you make videos like this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A899MJ6NXBA
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Jim Hoak

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2017, 09:59:24 AM »
When you find you love golf courses more than golf (which is where I am!).
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MCirba

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2017, 03:37:10 PM »
Quote from: John Kavanaugh on April 28, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
When you stop correcting people you know are mistaken because you know everything you have learned is wrong


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Bill_McBride

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2017, 04:03:22 PM »
Quote from: Matthew Essig on April 28, 2017, 02:32:51 AM
...when you know Pebble Beach may not even break the top 5 for best designed courses on the peninsula. Views, history, etc... sure. But it lost its edge over the years.

But an incredible figure 8 routing!
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Steve Lang

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2017, 09:25:13 PM »
 8)  You read Max Behr's writing and understand. ::)
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Joe Hancock

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2017, 09:51:14 PM »
When you use the TLA (three letter acronym) "ODG" when explaining who the architect was.....
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Sean_A

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2017, 05:35:49 AM »
When you realize you have forgotten more stuff than you remember.

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John Connolly

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Re: You know you know too much about golf architecture when
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2017, 08:58:41 PM »
When you realize you don't.
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