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Sven Nilsen

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Philadelphia Cricket's Ross Course
« on: November 01, 2017, 11:56:01 AM »
The DRS notes Ross doing remodeling work at the Flourtown course of the Philadelphia Cricket Club in 1914, something that would be hard to do as the course wasn't opened until 1922.

What they mean is that Ross remodeled the 18 hole (at the time) St. Martin's Course.  Chris Buie notes this work in "The Life & Times of Donald Ross" twice, commenting on George Thomas' observing Ross at work as well as citing the article noted below.  Yet there is no mention of Ross in the club's own description of the course or any other major sources.

It would be of interest to know what holes from the Ross redesign remain at the existing 9 hole course.

Nov. 16, 1914 Evening Public Ledger -


"As much as we have learned about the history of golf architecture in the last ten plus years, I'm convinced we have only scratched the surface."  A GCA Poster

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Chris Buie

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Re: Philadelphia Cricket's Ross Course
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 05:59:35 PM »
The first reference in the book is a quote from George Thomas himself (below). The second reference is quoting the article you printed above.
What I say in the book avec Thomas quotes is this:

Having the good fortune to be surrounded by many world class designers certainly aided his rise to the elite level of the field. Beyond the list of Philadelphia architects, Mr. Thomas had occasion to study with Donald Ross.

"On the green committee of the Philadelphia Cricket Club I aided in the work on their reconstructed course, and in the building of their new Flourtown course, the first being done under the supervision of Donald Ross, the second from the designs of A.W. Tillinghast, both golf architects of the highest class. Before this, and as a member of the Sunnybrook Committee in Pennsylvania, I was connected in its construction with…Donald Ross."

While he was able to observe the numerous elements which comprise the creation of courses, Thomas was particularly impressed with the way Ross used detailed drawings to plan the layout.

"The first accurate plans I saw were those of Donald Ross, when I worked on a green committee where he laid out the course. This did me a lot of good, for up to that time, as noted, the work had been without definite scheme."
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I don't recall this being discussed elsewhere in the book. It's possible but I don't think so.
Thank you for another good spirited post Sven. Bonhomie is, after all, golf's greatest element. I'm a big fan of anybody that boosts our game in that regard.

Tim Martin

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Re: Philadelphia Cricket's Ross Course
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 07:16:51 PM »
The DRS notes Ross doing remodeling work at the Flourtown course of the Philadelphia Cricket Club in 1914, something that would be hard to do as the course wasn't opened until 1922.

What they mean is that Ross remodeled the 18 hole (at the time) St. Martin's Course.  Chris Buie notes this work in "The Life & Times of Donald Ross" twice, commenting on George Thomas' observing Ross at work as well as citing the article noted below.  Yet there is no mention of Ross in the club's own description of the course or any other major sources.

It would be of interest to know what holes from the Ross redesign remain at the existing 9 hole course.

Nov. 16, 1914 Evening Public Ledger -





Sven-My understanding is that there are three original holes left out of the nine remaining at St. Martin’s. Maybe someone can chime in as to what they are. Powell Arms please pick up the red courtesy phone.

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