2011 Lido Competition....

[Nick Campanelli]

....submissions were due yesterday.  While I'll wait to discuss or post anything regarding specific submissions until judging is complete, I'm curious to see if anyone else from GCA submitted this year.  If so, congrats on submitting (thats half the battle) and best of luck.   

[Brian Ross]

I entered as well.  I will be glad to post my entry for discussion once the results are in as well.  Good luck Nick (and whoever else entered)!!

[Nick Campanelli]

Congratulations to David Hoekstra as this year's Lido winner!  

[Philip Spogard]

Great competition - best of luck to all participants!

[Ryan Farrow]

I don't get it  Congrats I guess?

[Kalen Braley]

I'm surprised a hole won that wasn't all fancied up and done with a proper drawing program.

[Joe_Tucholski]

What is with the bunker between the tees?  Filler?  I guess there is no maintenance because no one will be in it.

Also a realistic question partially sparked by the bunkers short of the green.  Is there a point where a large bunker is more difficult/expensive to maintain than multiple smaller bunkers?

[Mike Nuzzo]

Kalen
It is a hand drawn competition.

Nick
Post yours please.
Cheers

[Nick Campanelli]

Mike, Ill post it tonight or tomorrow morning.  I was going to throw it up this morning but i was not able to find it on my work computer.  I know others have submitted from this site as well.

[Tom_Doak]

This competition seems to have become a parody of the original.  Everyone knows exactly what they ought to do to win -- draw the most complicated hole possible, with eight [or, better, nine!] multiple routes, including five that nobody would use in real life.

What would Tom Simpson say about it?

[Garland Bayley]

What happened to tees being in close proximity to the previous green. Cartball has even invaded the Lido Competition.

[Peter Pallotta]

This competition seems to have become a parody of the original.  Everyone knows exactly what they ought to do to win -- draw the most complicated hole possible, with eight [or, better, nine!] multiple routes, including five that nobody would use in real life.

You may be right, Tom.  But if so, it wouldn't be much different than gca.com having become a parody of Bernard Darwin, of US Open set-ups having become parodies of Oakmont, of me having becoming a parody of Max Behr, and of a thousand CCFAD having become parodies of Augusta National.  It seems an inevitable by-product of golf/golf course architecture being such inherently 'conservative' pursuits, not only steeped in the past but constantly trying to honour/re-create that past. 

Peter

[Joshua Pettit]

It seems an inevitable by-product of golf/golf course architecture being such inherently 'conservative' pursuits, not only steeped in the past but constantly trying to honour/re-create that past.

Peter, I'm not sure I understand your point.

It seems counterintuitive to me to have an architect (only one mind you) judge an Alister Mackenzie design competition that isn't familiar with MacKenzie's work or philosophies, and has no professional accreditations to qualify him as such.  I would encourage the Society to have a panel of MacKenzie "experts" do the judging in the future.  There are plenty of architects and historians that are very knowledgeable and would be more than willing to help out.  After all, what is it that distinguishes the Society's design competition amongst the others?  Can you imagine a Beaux Arts expert judging a Frank Lloyd Wright competition?

I guess I took the idea of an inspired MacKenzie design and drawing a bit too literally...

[Peter Pallotta]

Joshua - lovely work there.  I wasn't commenting on the validity of the winning design, just suggesting that parody (for lack of a better word) is probably to be expected in such a tradition-bound field, and that the devolution of the age-old ideal of "options" seems part of that. 

Peter

[Nick Campanelli]

Josh, excellent entry.  I personally like the old school rendering style.  Did you color it black and white originally, or pull the color out digitally?  Design wise, did you envision the back tier of the green to be hidden from the fairway?

Mike, here she is.  Have at it.  Inspired in part by the 6th at French Lick's Pete Dye Course.  This submission was put together the week following the trip to Indy...if you couldn't tell, the "sharp" features typical of most Dye courses were still fresh in my mind.......    

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[Garland Bayley]

Joshua,

What a concept! A single teeing area! It could even be close to the previous green! We could play golf there!

To bad you didn't know that making a person walk the distance of a goodly length par 3 from the last green to the next tee was all the vogue these days. That makes it a shoo-in to have the most options. They didn't even mark the option of playing a 19th hole in the course. That would be from one tee to another tee on the same hole. For that matter, you could play from back left tee to right tee as a par 3, then play right tee to middle left tee as a par three, then play from there to that big green in the distance as a par 4. Three holes for the price of one! What a concept for these recessionary times.

Don't worry about being slighted by the judging panel. I always wonder how much booze they had to consume to get themselves to undertake the thankless task of judging these things.

Love the use of the stream in your dogleg. A small stream (or burn) is a great hazard, because the time from swing to result is key in the enjoyment of golf. With a stream, the result is somewhat is question for a significant amount of time. With a pond you know you are dead almost as soon as the ball leaves the clubhead.