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Anthony_Nysse

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Terry,

This was far more than "ragged" bunker edging.

It was deep, difficult rough where reasonable extrication was nearly impossible due to both the height and density of the grass and the inability to take a stance due to its location.

 I can't say that I have heard anything about the height of the grass being an issue. The edges uses to be 6-8" of soil. In fact, the surrounds were being maintained at 1-1.5". The look from 2005-2011 looked like Wilson's  original bunker work at Pine Tree. (from the 1962 photos)  Interesting how none of his other work- NCR, Doral, Ballenisles, Deepdale, Cog Hill, La Casta, Meadow Brook and even West Palm Beach Golf have that sytle bunkers. The courses just listed all have the same bunker style-big bowls, large, wide fingers. MUCH different than what Pine Treeused to have .
Anthony J. Nysse
Director of Golf Courses & Grounds
Apogee Club
Hobe Sound, FL

Patrick_Mucci


Anthony,

The photo below represents a reasonable bunker surround.

Previously, a 4-5 inch high collar of rough, about 6 inches in width surrounded the bunkers.
In addition, most of the fingers were maintained similarly, making recovery more than just difficult



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Joe Bausch

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If you wish to see how my eyes and camera saw Pine Tree last week, go here:

http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/albums/PineTree/
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Jim Sherma

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If you wish to see how my eyes and camera saw Pine Tree last week, go here:

http://xchem.villanova.edu/~bausch/images/albums/PineTree/

Great looking pitures and a great looking course. Calling an era and a style that produced this the "Dark Ages" is a little over the top for me. The course looks very demanding in that it asks for consistent execution of specific shots in order to succeed. But this is true of many courses from the era (Trent Jones, the Gordons, George Fazio, Wilson, etc.). Perhaps the disdain of this era is more in the difficulty than anything else? If you don't have the game to execute the shots that are being asked for these courses are not fun. That does not mean that they can not be fun if you have the game however.

Kevin_D

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Great photo tour and very cool looking course.

It's amazing how GCA.com continues to educate; I knew pretty much nothing about Dick Wilson before reading about (and then playing) Doral. Evidently he's done some terrific work.

And they say there aren't any good golf courses in Florida!