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Richard Choi

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GCA One Hit Wonders?
« on: September 30, 2009, 01:11:17 PM »
How many architects have we had in history of golf who are "one hit wonders"?

I think Fownes/Oakmont is probably the best example that I know. Who else would qualify?
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David_Tepper

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2009, 01:12:03 PM »
jack Neville @ Pebble Beach?
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Kalen Braley

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2009, 01:15:30 PM »
Crump...but of course!!  ;D
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PCCraig

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2009, 01:36:30 PM »
How about David Kidd after Bandon Dunes.
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Rob Rigg

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 04:32:43 PM »
Quote from: Pat Craig on September 30, 2009, 01:36:30 PM
How about David Kidd after Bandon Dunes.

I think some of Kidd's post Bandon courses are better than the original - although several are probably a little extreme.

Nanea looks really cool - it might be better? - and Mac Dunes will probably get better with time as the rough is trimmed down - better? Tetherow has some very cool holes as well although BD is a superior overall routing.





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Richard Choi

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 05:29:46 PM »
Why did Neville only do Pebble Beach?
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Sean Leary

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2009, 05:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Richard Choi on September 30, 2009, 05:29:46 PM
Why did Neville only do Pebble Beach?

He also did West Seattle, Richard.....
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Garland Bayley

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2009, 05:36:05 PM »
Dare one say Hugh Wilson?
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Kyle Henderson

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2009, 05:39:56 PM »
Quote from: Pat Craig on September 30, 2009, 01:36:30 PM
How about David Kidd after Bandon Dunes.

I've also played Stonebrae and The Castle Course. Neither is as good as Bandon but he started with less as well. Both are far better than average.

I think Neville also did Diablo CC. It's not great now, but it may have been when he built it.
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Tim Leahy

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2009, 05:41:47 PM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on September 30, 2009, 01:12:03 PM
jack Neville @ Pebble Beach?

Didn't Neville do a course in the east bay, Diablo CC?
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rjsimper

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2009, 05:44:04 PM »
Quote from: Tim Leahy on September 30, 2009, 05:41:47 PM
Quote from: David_Tepper on September 30, 2009, 01:12:03 PM
jack Neville @ Pebble Beach?

Didn't Neville do a course in the east bay, Diablo CC?

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Michael Dugger

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2009, 05:53:35 PM »
Problem with this exercise is it assumes current architects will never "strike gold" again

For discussion purposes, however...

Baxter Spann.  Black Mesa gets a ton of run but I cannot recall any other course he's done.
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Mike Nuzzo

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2009, 06:06:16 PM »
What is a Hit?

Finger Dye Spann, Inc did also create Pinon & Paa-Ko
Memorial is a Hit for Texas.

Everyone should hope I don't finish in this category.
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Richard Choi

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2009, 06:06:53 PM »
Quote from: Sean Leary on September 30, 2009, 05:32:17 PM
He also did West Seattle, Richard.....

I knew that... dang! :)
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Richard Choi

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2009, 06:14:31 PM »
Quote from: Mike Nuzzo on September 30, 2009, 06:06:16 PM
What is a Hit?

Finger Dye Spann, Inc did also create Pinon & Paa-Ko
Memorial is a Hit for Texas.

Everyone should hope I don't finish in this category.

For our discussion, why don't we say one hit wonder is an architect who only has one course that he/she designed that would not be out of place on any top 100 list. But no other course by that same architect would even sniff that list.
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Rob Rigg

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2009, 06:20:12 PM »
Kidd already has two on the list then - Nanea and BD

Mike - I didn't want to mention your name because I hope you get another commish so you can go 2 for 2!
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Garland Bayley

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2009, 06:22:09 PM »
How good is Neville's nine at Pacific Grove?
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Jaeger Kovich

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2009, 07:07:49 PM »
DMK also has courses in the world/international 100's on various magazines, and if you are hired by the R&A/St.Andrews you aint a one hit wonder in my book.


What about the Campbell's who designed The Country Club in Mass?
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mike_beene

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2009, 08:29:17 PM »
That guy who designed The Old course.
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JC Jones

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2009, 09:28:58 PM »
I thought this thread was going to be about music, like "I'm on a Doak."
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I know plenty of courses that are in the red, and they are killing it.

Brad Swanson

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2009, 09:35:50 PM »
Some discussion on this topic from some 5 years back.

http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,14011.0/
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David Stamm

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2009, 02:52:17 AM »
Neville also contributed to Bel Air.
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Jon Spaulding

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Re: GCA One Hit Wonders?
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2009, 04:13:30 AM »
James Harrison Smith

Unfortunately, his work is currently under attack from the dark side.
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