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Carl Nichols

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Re: Is there a difference?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2009, 12:23:01 PM »
Peter:
IIRC, this isn't a greenside bunker, it's closer to a fairway bunker -- it sits on the far-left corner of a small dune/ridge  that juts into the fairway and makes the hole play like a dogleg right. 

Brian_Ewen

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Re: Is there a difference?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2009, 04:46:03 PM »
Never has there been a thread on this forum , that questions why I look in here .
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 05:15:46 PM by Brian_Ewen »

Adam Lawrence

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Re: Is there a difference?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2009, 05:03:25 PM »
The bottom picture is just a caricature.  Put the gleaming white sand in the upper picture and it will look even more hideous.

  Rich,

 Do you think that white sand at the Castle Course looks out of place?

  Anthony



Anthony

Not to answer for Rich, but imo yeah, it does. But then there is no natural sand on the Castle Course. When a site is sandy, it seems quite obvious to me that you'd want to have bunkers that use the on-site material and blend in seamlessly with the natural environment. But when the site is not sandy, then they are artificial whichever way you look at it. Thus, for me at least, on sites that are not sandy, bunkers ought to be relatively low-profile and inconspicuous.

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Peter Pallotta

Re: Is there a difference?
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2009, 06:45:37 PM »
Carl - thanks. That I couldn't see that is one of the reasons I'm a bad bunker player.

Peter

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Is there a difference?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2009, 06:51:57 PM »
edit:  Anthony,

I've never played the hole and haven't been looking at it from that perspective. As it's presented in the photos and not knowing the position in the fairway, the distance from the tee, or if it's 10 or 30 yards from the green, I am saying that you have to be more considerate of the bunker in the top photo than the one in the bottom.

I would probably play more left of the one in the top.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2009, 06:59:59 PM by Jim_Kennedy »
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Norbert P

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Re: Is there a difference?
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2009, 07:02:52 PM »
Is it a trick question  ???




I assume this is some kind of mental test to expose what we feel is of primary concern in valuing these two bunkers.  The top bunker is as good as it gets. A view that Darwin and Finegan could write some fine prose around.  The second should be replaced with the first or be removed, allowing the native plants ---  heath (?) --- to engulf the bank.
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