For Texas, it is a very scenic course, but much too penal for my taste. The Tour qualifier set the course at considerably shorter lengths (I think John Cook burned it up one year), but it still had too many blow-up holes. Location has been a problem since day one, but I think that many golfers just didn't like getting beat up. I've taken a few friends out there and could not get them to go back. I am just guessing, but an average 18 handicapper would have a hard time submitting a legitimate score, and it probably wouldn't be within 10 strokes of his handicap.