Geoff Shakelford on Southern Hills

[George Pazin]

Matt, I don't think Oakmont needs heavy rough either - in fact, I'd love to see them buzz it down to almost nothing and do a test tourney, and I think they're probably seriously considering my suggestion - but I take the word of the actual winner from 2001 over a bunch of tour pros who are just spouting the party line.

I'm not a fan of groupthink - which is pretty ironic, given the reputation of this site among its handful of critics.

[Don_Mahaffey]

Often times with bermuda rough, like other grasses as well, it's not just the length that matters as the thickness or lushness (I know not a word but you know what I mean) is what really determines how it plays. Bermuda rough early in the summer (June) is not usually as tough as rough later in the summer. Throw in a wet summer like OK has had and I'm guessing the rough at SH will be plenty challenging.

[Jim Nugent]

Interesting side note: George Pepper chose #12 at Southern Hills -- the hole pictured on the 1st page of this thread -- as one of the 18 best holes in golf.