Question to Lloyd, the performance artist and golf enthusiast.

[Lloyd_Cole]

About the same, I think. I certainly have more wedges.

Wow I never realised it was the same Lloyd Cole. I used to love "Mr Malcontent". Do you still play that live?

Adrian
The band reunited a couple of years ago and we dusted it off and played it. Acoustically? Very rarely - it doesn't have the greatest harmonic structure; the dynamic of the performance makes the recording work. Take that away and maybe there isn't too much actual song left.

[Lloyd_Cole]

There have been numerous innovations that have made it possible to attain certain guitar SOUNDS that might have required a more substantial investment in times past.

Lloyd, I suspect you mean and 'investment' in cost of the equipment.  But, could you mean an investment in time to learn and master the instrument at a higher level?

RJ
I was referring the the affordability of much modern HT electronics, which CAN enhance the sound of, for example a guitar, or a vocal microphone. They do not necessarily enhance said sound, though, unless used properly. And they can make a right old mess of it.
There is no way one can 'buy' mastery of an instrument, though. I see the Gibson CEO has this idea in mind, but it is BS, not a million  miles from Callaway's tack a couple of years back.
There was probably a time, maybe 25 years ago when I could have put more energy into my guitar technique, but I think this would have been at the expense of my songwriting. When it comes to shotmaking on the guitar, I'd say I have a somewhat repeatable fade/slice that I can work with, but I am certainly prone to top shots which can be amusing, for the audience anyway. Basically I can play what I write, most of the time...

[Lloyd_Cole]

Is Pro Tools the big-headed driver of the recording industry?  Maybe the sand wedge?
 

Ken
I'd say that Pro Tools (mark 1) was the Ping Anser, which has led to everything else. Frankly, I'm more than happy to watch Seve or Tiger wield one. The long putter (now standard with pro tools 2007)... maybe not.

[Craig Sweet]

I love the connection between golf and making music...when my game is in a groove I often have a tune swirling around inside my head....unfortunately, I do not "make" music at all...but I can listen with the best of them!  

I stopped by the shop yesterday...only the mechanic, the Super and the assitant super are working this time of year...the mechanic had his new electric guitar at the shop so he got it out to show me and plugged it in and played a tune or two...then the Super took over and 'noodled" for awhile...his taste lean toward Johnny Cash...before passing it on to the assistant who promptly played some AC/DC claiming it was my favorite band....

[RichMacafee]

Sounds like a form of good course management to me!

[Kirk Gill]

It's probably not a great thing that one of the tunes that runs through my head most consistently when playing golf is "Snowman," and old XTC number.

Lloyd, one of my very favorite records is your "Bad Vibes." Do you do any of those numbers acoustically? I can hear you playing "Holier than Thou" that way. Don't see any dates in Denver scheduled.........you can count on at least two ticket sales (my wife and I) if you ever head out this way......

Pro Tools doesn't make playing music any easier, but it sure does give the musician (or the producer) a lot more options about what to do with the music recorded. If you let it, it can paralyze you with all the choices that it makes available to you. It's like instantly being granted the ability to hit just about every shot known, and being allowed to set every parameter of each swing and shot manually. It can be hell on pace of play.

[Lloyd_Cole]

Lloyd, one of my very favorite records is your "Bad Vibes." Do you do any of those numbers acoustically? I can hear you playing "Holier than Thou" that way. Don't see any dates in Denver scheduled.........you can count on at least two ticket sales (my wife and I) if you ever head out this way......

Kirk
Cheers. I play Mr. Wrong fairly often, and I will be getting to Denver this year.

[Matthew Hunt]

I listened too some of your songs (probaly not legal) on YouTube and I thought they were very good.

How long ago did you make those Videos.

[Lloyd_Cole]

I listened too some of your songs (probaly not legal) on YouTube and I thought they were very good.

How long ago did you make those Videos.

Matthew,
Thanks. We started making videos in 1984 on our first album. The last one I made was in 1999. Don't worry, it's quite legal to watch YouTube.

[Matthew Hunt]

I listened too some of your songs (probaly not legal) on YouTube and I thought they were very good.

How long ago did you make those Videos.

Matthew,
Thanks. We started making videos in 1984 on our first album. The last one I made was in 1999. Don't worry, it's quite legal to watch YouTube.

Its Ilegal to download them though?

[Lloyd_Cole]

I listened too some of your songs (probaly not legal) on YouTube and I thought they were very good.

How long ago did you make those Videos.

Matthew,
Thanks. We started making videos in 1984 on our first album. The last one I made was in 1999. Don't worry, it's quite legal to watch YouTube.

Its Ilegal to download them though?

Probably not Matthew, but you don't need to worry. When the powers that be want to stop it happening, the site will disappear. Download away!

[RJ_Daley]

Thanks very much to a link that Matt sent me of some of Lloyd's selections.  

The internet is really great for the chance for people to get to know something of eachother.  I don't think Lloyd would mind this link to an interview he did, which is on the U-tube search of Lloyd that Matt sent me.  How very interesting it is to see him in a relaxed setting, just conversing.  Now, we will have a greater sense of him to relate to when he posts his thoughts on GCA.  

Lloyd, please when you meet Pat Mucci, don't stick your hand in his cage to pet him either.  You need it for your art.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOcZ14WIejA

[Anthony Butler]

I listened too some of your songs (probaly not legal) on YouTube and I thought they were very good.

How long ago did you make those Videos.

Matthew,
Thanks. We started making videos in 1984 on our first album. The last one I made was in 1999. Don't worry, it's quite legal to watch YouTube.

Its Ilegal to download them though?

Since you can embed You Tube video in your own web site I don't think you're breaking any laws by downloading them... occasionally copyright owners will ask You Tube to pull down a video. NBC for instance asked them to pull down "Dick in A Box" which is probably the funniest thing on SNL since Bill Murray was doing Nicky Sands.

They put it back up about a week ago... it now has over 13,000,000 views on You Tube. Even a dope like Jeff Zucker can work out that this might be good for his TV shows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA

[RJ_Daley]

Anthony, I'm a bit disapponted that the last was a bit of a thread killer.

I don't start posts often, but I think we have a real interesting person to get insight from a seperate art form artist's perspective on GCA.  I think there are several points where the music art, the creative process, the skill sets of great players in both, and high tech developments in both, intersect.

Granted, Bill Murray likes to play golf, and the dickinabox is a u-tube phenom.  I'm thankful for the info on legality to download, however.  Jay Flemma would be my go-to guy if I need such legal advise.

But, Lloyd has been a real gentleman here to participate.  Can we stay on subject if this thread is to go any further?

[Lloyd_Cole]

RJ
I don't think you need to worry about the thread.
A couple of things. That interview in Lisbon was in one of the noisiest lobbies I've ever had the misfortune to meet a film crew in, I just had a quick look, not at the whole clip, but I hope they edited me out becomeing irritable... And that guitar wasn't even mine, the performance is in a shopping mall, and it still seems OK. Some nights we have my gear, my people in the venue I choose and it doesn't go well. Go figure.