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Patrick_Mucci

Which architectural features and holes
« on: June 09, 2006, 05:06:53 AM »
will present the greatest challenge to the competitors at Winged Foot West ?


Tom_Doak

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Re:Which architectural features and holes
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2006, 11:46:35 AM »
Like every other course today, the par-3's will be the toughest challenge at Winged Foot.  They are the only holes where players have to hit more than a 7-iron into the green.  Although, I guess the deep rough is not so much in play.

PThomas

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Re:Which architectural features and holes
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2006, 06:34:16 PM »
so what must be done to make other things besides the par 3s the big challenge Tom?  make the fairways even MORE narrow?  Even deeper rough?  what???
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Craig Sweet

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Re:Which architectural features and holes
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2006, 06:45:31 PM »
Nothing has changed, the greens, and the rough, were the most difficult features back in 74...and will be next week.
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Mark_F

Re:Which architectural features and holes
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2006, 09:28:10 PM »
Like every other course today, the par-3's will be the toughest challenge at Winged Foot.  

Doesn't that mean that par threes should then receive the most thought and importance when routing and designing a course?

Jordan Wall

Re:Which architectural features and holes
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2006, 09:34:29 PM »
Like every other course today, the par-3's will be the toughest challenge at Winged Foot.  

Doesn't that mean that par threes should then receive the most thought and importance when routing and designing a course?

No.

None of the par fives usually play over par, so they should be made mroe challenging.  The par-3's are already serving there purpose.  The holes that already challenege are not the holes that need the most design.  The holes that do not present a big challenge are the ones that need more time and importance, IMO.

John Nixon

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Re:Which architectural features and holes
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2006, 10:27:35 PM »
The holes that do not present a big challenge are the ones that need more time and importance, IMO.

In terms of a stroke competition, any intrinsic challenge a hole presents is irrelevant. The challenge comes in a player's attempt to match, or better, what all the other competitors are doing on that particular hole. If a par 5 is playing "easy" for the field, say, a half-stroke under par, then if a player pars that hole he has not met the challenge for that particular hole on that particular round.