Kevin: Is Olympic as sandy as SFGC? I've never put a shovel in the ground there.
Andrew: I would be unlikely to suggest a par-69 routing unless I thought the client would be receptive. We are starting to look at a piece of property now which would probably be better as a par-68 or 69, so we didn't have to go either across a road or up a steep hill for a couple of holes -- but I don't think the client is interested in trying to sell expensive memberships to a par-68. And, if we keep working at the routing, I'm sure we'll find something equally good which is a little more conventional.