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Photos of the Green Monkey
« on: January 20, 2005, 10:45:00 PM »
Rob Thompson played the Green Monkey last spring and took these photos. I have turned them digital and posted 10 photos. Rob will add text, or post comments on each.


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Robert Thompson

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2005, 07:43:34 AM »
Ian has been so kind as to help me put these shots up, as they were taken last spring, before I bought my digital camera.
Anyway, this is the much discussed Green Monkey, the super-exclusive Fazio course built in Barbados for the Sandy Lane resort. You have to stay at the pricey Sandy Lane in order to play it and when I teed it up there, my playing partner and I were two of only four golfers to hit the ball around the course that day.
There are some clear strengths and weaknesses to the course. It opens up quite blandly, as witnessed in the first shot taken of the opening hole, a mid-length par four.
#2 is taken from the tee of the second hole, which is actually quite strong and features an interesting green site. The shot is looking down onto the final holes of the front nine in th quarry.
#3 is a long par five towards the end of the front nine and the first hole to use the quarry. Though the photo is kinda washed out, the sea is in the background. Bunkering is overdone, but the hole features a great tee shot, elevated around 80 feet in the air and making the green reachable in two if you really blast one, despite being 600 yards long. This is the greensite looking back.
#4 is a par three that finishes the front, utilizing part of the quarry as does #5, a dogleg par five where players must contend with the quarry walls on their tee shots and approach.
#6 is the approach of a par five on the back nine -- a whole that utilized a large ravine to the right of the tee to force players to carefully determine how much they could bite off with their drive. The shot is of the green. In order to try for the green in two, players have to contend with the ravine and a large tree that guards the corner.
#7 is a par four that follows, playing down along the other side of the quarry that can by seen in shot #3
#8 is out of order -- this is the 17th hole, a long par par with a 250 yard carry over water from the tips, tees that were added without Fazio.
#9 is a shot of the 15th, a cool par four surrounded by the quarry and #10 is a shot some will have seen, an interesting, downhill par three with a pond in the background. The catch is the bunker on the right side is shaped like a green monkey. Over the top to me, but everyone takes a photo of it and all the magazines like to show it.
Overall impressions were that the attention to detail and the routing were impressive, the green sites a little bland, the bunker work a little too clean and several throw away holes to get you to the quarry holes. That said, it was better than Royal Westmoreland, which I played on an earlier trip to Barbados, and significantly better than Fazio's earlier work at Sandy Lane, the Country Club, which opened a couple of years earlier and is really mediocre.
The course owners, who count Tiger as a personal friend, have said they've wanted to build the best course in the Caribbean. They haven't -- but the Green Monkey does offer some thrills and is great fun to play.
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A.G._Crockett

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2005, 08:59:26 AM »
Great pictures, and thanks for posting them.

My only regret is that there is no picture of the green monkey in the bunker. :)
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Tom_Doak

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2005, 09:12:09 AM »
Ian:

Thanks for the photo.  I like to stay on top of the cutting edge.

Glad to see there is something more to the course than a bunker with a green monkey shaped island in it.  That one photo is the only thing the resort has given out for publicity, and it might give serious golfers the impression that there is not much else to recommend.  Then again, up til now at least, Sandy Lane has been more about who can afford to stay there than about serious golf.

Jeff_Mingay

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2005, 09:14:23 AM »
Those rock cliffs make the course look like a Golden Tee layout, for those of you familiar with the popular video game!
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Kelly Blake Moran

Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2005, 09:16:36 AM »
Tom,

I am interested in knowing what you think is cutting edge about the Green Monkey.

Jeff_Mingay

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2005, 09:20:49 AM »
Kelly,

I sense a bit of sarcasm coming from Mr. Doak  ;)

Although, I might be wrong.
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T_MacWood

Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2005, 09:32:02 AM »
An observation based on these photos: there is something incongruous about the architecture and the site.

IMO the flashy bunkers, the soft flowing fairway contours and the bright flowers clash with the raw, rugged, rocky site. Wouldn’t more angular features have blended better? I’m thinking Raynor, Langford or early Fowler. I’d guess early Fowler would've worked best - deep, simple, somewhat angular bunkers. Raynor would have worked as well. I also prefer the last two photos that have a little green growing on the cliffs, it softens the look I think.

Robert Thompson

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2005, 10:27:43 AM »
Gentlemen: There is lots to note about this course -- first of all the owners are more than a bit anal about it. When I was there, in February of last year, the course still wasn't "officially" open (to anyone but the owners) because the plantings weren't complete. The gardens rival the best in the world, but make the entire place seem overdone. I agree that a more rugged look would have been better, but it wouldn't fit with the aesthetic that is Sandy Lane or the filthy wealthy clientele, who are probably more impressed by glitz than rugged golf.
Golf writers have not been able to get access, without staying in one of the $1,000 rooms -- I managed to get on through a friend, but that's longer story. That's largely why there has been so little said about this one. Secondly, Sandy Lane has been so reluctant to try for any publicity, though I'm not sure why, and so the photo with the silly monkey bunker is the only one that has been shown. For what it is worth, I was pretty underwhelmed by that hole and the monkey bunker is kind of ridiculous. Mr. Doak, how much cash do you need to do a bunker in the shape of an animal?
That aside, there is lots to recommend at this course -- the quarry, by the way, was "created" during construction by paying a bloody fortune.
Still, the holes that bring you down to the quarry and the 18th, which takes you away from it (about 8 holes in total) are only good. Some of the quarry holes are terrific, even with the overdone bunkering.
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Mike_Sweeney

Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2005, 10:18:38 AM »
That aside, there is lots to recommend at this course -- the quarry, by the way, was "created" during construction by paying a bloody fortune.

Robert,

So the quarry holes were dug out? If so this much have been a fortune ?

Robert Thompson

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Re:Photos of the Green Monkey
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2005, 11:12:17 AM »
Mike: Indeed, Fazio told me they brought in a company to dig down the rock to create the quarry look. I understand it was terribly expensive, but the owners of Sandy Lane had no issue with that. They have been trying to create the best resort in the world -- and have spent tens of millions trying to do so. The Green Monkey is just part of that -- though a part that is close to the owners hearts (the one owner's claim to fame is betting Tiger in a match).
Surprised Mr. Doak hasn't chimed in with how much he needs to be paid to create a bunker in the look of an animal.

R
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