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Mark_Fine

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Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« on: March 19, 2003, 10:08:41 AM »
For what it’s worth, I will attach in my next post, a “Cliff Notes” type summary on A.W. Tillinghast.  I posted one earlier on William Flynn.  There are always exceptions, but this is basically an overview of what I feel are some of the most important attributes of Tillinghast’s design style/philosophies gathered from playing and reading about his courses.  

I've done a number of these kind of summaries for my own personal use (many of you probably have your own versions).   I find them useful when I just have a few minutes to update myself on a particular architect (rather than pulling out all my Tillinghast articles, books, and scorecards/notes).  Hope others find this useful as well!

Mark
              
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Mark_Fine

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2003, 10:09:40 AM »
Here it is:

                 A. W. Tillinghast Overview

• On Trees:
o      Tillinghast had a love for trees and incorporated them into his design schemes often.  He felt trees added beauty and could contribute to the distinction and charm of a golf hole.
o      He used trees to help mark the true line of play and felt outstanding specimens could be used advantageously in helping to “to chart the channel of the hole, so to speak”.   However, he believed that trees placed too close to the proper line of play, particularly in front of greens, can not be condoned.  
o      He also used trees for deception as well making the judgment of distances more difficult for the golfer.  
o      He recognized that trees offer comfort from the sun on a hot summer day particularly around teeing grounds.  His love for them might also have been a result of the fact that he liked to direct the efforts of his construction crew from the shade of a tree “with bottle in hand”.  
o      He understood that trees could restrict air movement around green and tee surfaces causing turf problems.  He often suggested that evergreens were a desirable neighbor for putting surfaces.
o      As with all his design features, he believed none of them should be over used or over done.

• On Variety:
o      Probably the most unique aspect of Tillinghast’s designs was that few, if any, of his courses looked the same.  He was a master of variety.  
o      He believed every hole should be unique and was a strong advocate of naming his golf holes for some novel characteristic that they possessed.   He felt every hole should be “worthy of a name”.
o      At the same time he made the famous quote that, “a round of golf should present eighteen inspirations, not necessarily eighteen thrills” as spectacular holes can be sadly overdone.  
o      Moreover, Tillinghast was a strong proponent of “beautiful” golf courses and ones that were a pleasure to play.   He felt there is a human tendency to admire things that are beautiful and golf courses should help placate this inner craving.  He also believed there was no reason that a course could not be beautiful and testing at the same time.  

• On Greens:
o      Tillinghast believed that the greens were the faces of the golf course.  No matter how good the rest of the course was, he felt a course would never be noteworthy if its greens were not impressive.
o      Tillinghast’s greens were almost always tightly guarded as he believed a controlled shot to a well defended green was a sure test of a man’s game.
o      He felt nothing could supply a green more character than bold undulations.  However, those undulations needed to be receptive to the type of golf shot he expected to be played to that hole.
o      Many of his greens were raised in the back and often had one side tilted above the other.  This encouraged accurate approach play and made recovery shots around his greens all the more demanding.  They also helped insure good surface drainage.  
o      As wild as many of his greens were, Tillinghast had a sense of “fairness” in him.  He designed his greens to help a properly played shot finish close to the hole.  This may have been a result of his feeling that putting was given too much prominence in golf and its value too great compared to other shots.
o      He liked to think his greensites “approached” nature very closely and were in harmony with their natural surroundings.  Any holes that “had to be manufactured” needed to blend in and “hold their heads up in polite society”.  
o      Tillinghast had little tolerance for blind greens.  He believed visibility of the green from a properly placed tee or approach area was important.  He said the relationship between a properly placed shot to the fairway and the following one to the green is one of the most important considerations in the design of a golf course.  \

• On Bunkers:
o      Tillinghast had a flare for strong intimidating hazards that would dictate and direct the line of play.  
o      He believed that shallow traps were of little value either as hazards or as impressive design features.  
o      What was most interesting about Tillinghast was that his bunker styles ranged all over the map from grass faced/flat bottomed to dramatic flashed sand faced designs.  His bunkers were almost always artistic creations and designed for the site at hand with most having a rugged less tended look.  
o      He heavily defended his greens with bunkers particularly on the sides and forward portions of the greensites.  
o      One of the attributes of a Tillinghast green is that if you miss one with your approach, you generally have to contend with sand vs. a chipping area.
o      As Tillinghast progressed in his career, he advocated the removal of bunkers at dozens of courses around the country including many of his own.  The driving force was apparently to reduce “unnecessary maintenance costs and make the game more fun and appealing to golfers”.  His famous cross bunkers were something he no longer approved of in his later years.

• On Tees:
o      Tillinghast, like many of his contemporaries, believed tees should blend in with their surrounds.   He did not like built up tee boxes and felt they only added to maintenance headaches and took away from the beauty of the course.
o      He also believed that multiple tees should not be laid out in a straight line as it looks artificial and robs the hole of variety.  He felt there is great satisfaction in playing to the fairway or greensite from different angles.  
o      He believed his courses should have elasticity and tees should have room to be lengthened should the need arise in the future.  
o      When playing into fairways with pronounced slopes, he would set his tees such that the golf shot would play into the slope rather than with it.  

• On Fairways:
o      Tillinghast advocated “beautiful” playing grounds and felt that straight lines were not often found in nature.  He was a strong advocate of contoured fairway lines and felt they added to the beauty as well as improved the playing characteristics of the golf hole.  
o      Most Tillinghast fairways are wide but they have a right side and a wrong side.  A carefully placed drive is rewarded with an easier shot to the green including the option of playing a run up shot.  
o      To reiterate, he was a strong advocate of risk/reward options.  He encouraged courageous play that awarded a very distant advantage if you successfully negotiated his carefully placed hazards.
o      His opinions on “rough” were similar to others of his time.  He believed rough should be a prominent feature on every golf course but should be maintained to extract a penalty “but not a loss of golf balls”.  
o      He despised parallel fairways and twisted his holes with doglegs and elbows and irregular shaped contours.  
o      He liked diagonal hazards and used a wide assortment of bunkers, mounds, rough, swales, etc. to challenge golfers and reward their successful efforts with a better angle of approach.    
o      He advocated clearing of brush and debris a considerable distance off the fairway under trees to allow the chance of a recovery shot.

• On Water:
o      Tillinghast felt water was used too frequently as a hazard.  However, he realized that water on a course was highly popular and he would have to incorporate it into his designs.
o      He fully realized the need for water from a maintenance standpoint but felt ponds created for this purpose almost always looked artificial.   He felt with a little creativity, this problem could easily be corrected and/or not happen in the first place.
o      Tillinghast felt use of water as a diagonal hazard was the best as it gave players an option to play safe or to bite off as much as they could handle.   The “make the carry or get wet concept” was not his preferred design method.

• On Approaches:
o      Tillinghast was very concerned about the design of approaches to greens and felt this was a much underrated aspect of good design.  He said the contours in the ground are of utmost importance and care must be taken in their construction to encourage the ground game.

• Other thoughts:
o      Tillinghast was probably the most eccentric of the Philadelphia school of designers.  His courses seemed to reflect his mood at the time (or maybe they were just a function of the amount of alcohol he consumed during the construction period).  
o      Tillinghast realized that the best way to attack a golf hole was not always directly at the hole.  He designed his holes such that the ability of a golfer to reason with their mind was just as important as their physical ability with the golf club.
o      He loved the forced “three shot” hole as well as what he coined, the “double dog leg”.  Although most of the time he didn’t like to force a players hand, he did feel there were situations when the architect could dictate play.
o      When confronted with hills, Tillinghast always looked for the longest way up and the shortest way down in doing his routings.  It is hard to find a Tillinghast course that is not walkable.  
o      He was always concerned about maintenance, especially later on in his career.  He seemed to have some insight that the cost of golf would someday flare out of control and bring negative consequences to the game.
o      He believed length was important, but character and interest determine the true merit of a golf hole.
o      He built courses that were timeless and still capable of challenging the best players today.  
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Mitch Hantman

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2003, 10:55:49 AM »
Mark,

That was terrific.  I never saw your post on Flynn, but I think it would be informative to do this again for the other architects.  I know you have a great knowledge about Flynn.  I'm still waiting for you to get down here to Florida so we can tee it up.  
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Mark_Fine

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2003, 12:06:54 PM »
Mitch,
Thanks!  The Flynn summary was posted under the topic "Was Flynn the father of the modern aerial game?" by Pat.  Hope to see you again soon.
Mark
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Tommy_Naccarato

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2003, 12:59:07 PM »
Some good stuff there Mark.

I would probably add that when he reduced the size and amount of bunkers in the later years, it was because of the time period of the Great Depression when Golf was struggling because of the lack of money to play, let alone maintain a course. Maybe Rick can back this up--That Tillie was employed by the PGA to help make the courses easier to maintain, while still utilizing strategic concepts. At least thats what I got out of it.
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Mark_Fine

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2003, 01:57:49 PM »
Thanks Tommy.  I agree with you about the bunkers.  See if Rick chimes in.
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Neil Regan

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Re: Tillinghast
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2003, 08:58:17 PM »
Mark,
  Great job. Right on target.
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T_MacWood

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2003, 04:26:38 AM »
Mark
I would add Tillie's propensity to incorporate the Sahara-like bunker, often times on par-5's. A distinctive trademark.

I would disagree that his bunker style ranged all over the map - although that is the conventional wisdom. I would characterize his bunkers as remarkably consistant in style with a few well-known exceptions. It appears to me the few exceptions were the result of extenuating circumstances.

Nice work.
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Mark_Fine

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2003, 04:56:08 AM »
Thanks guys!

Tom MacWood,
On his bunkers, if you looked at San Francisco vs. Somerset Hills vs. Fenway, you'd be hard pressed to say Tillinghast did all three of those courses.  Same might go for Baltusrol vs. Winged Foot and Baltimore.  

One other point worth noting is that Tillinghast worked on dozens of courses where he only gave advice and or spent limited time on the property.  He didn't do as much of this as Ross but he did quite a bit of consulting.

Mark
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T_MacWood

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2003, 05:25:34 AM »
The handful of very early courses he designed (around 1915) - Shawnee, Aronomink and Davista - had a simplistic old fashioned style. Somerset (1916-1917) still had some of this, but he was clearly starting to develop his later distinctive style.

At SFGC he inherited an existing golf course. I suspect he inherited the bunkering style or those in charge of construction utilized a local style. His plan for SFGC exhibits his normal style and not the flamboyant bunkering we now see.
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Phil_the_Author

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2003, 05:45:37 AM »
Tommy,

You suggested that, "Maybe Rick can back this up--That Tillie was employed by the PGA to help make the courses easier to maintain, while still utilizing strategic concepts. At least thats what I got out of it."

In his writings, Tillinghast actually gave several reasons that he made recommendations towards the elimination of bunkers during his country-wide consultation tour for the P.G.A.

For example, in his article "When Traps Are Friendly" he writes, "During the past sixteen months... since I have been traveling the remote parts of the country inspecting courses as consultant of the P.G.A., it is a matter of record that these have been maintained at considerable cost to nearly four hundred clubs," [the math here is amazing as it works out to some 20 traps per course!], "... that they unneccesarily harass the great majority of those who take to the game for pleasure without in the least causing that comparatively small number of par shooters to give them a thought, and usually injecting a thoroughly discordant note and smudging an other wise beautiful picture of rural landscape."

It's hard to decide from that which reason he was most making his recommendations for, cost saving or course saving.

In his article "What The P.G.A. Course Service Really Means" he writes about "one of the greatest benefits... is the elimination of what I term 'Duffers' Headaches,' the many traps placed only to catch the poor shots of poor players. These add aggravation and are of no value..."

In a later article he actually refers to how he had himself included a number of these "Duffer's Headaches" in some of his own courses.

I hope this helps. All the articles mentioned can be found in "Gleanings From The Wayside" by You-Know-Who!
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A_Clay_Man

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2003, 07:24:36 AM »
I'd like someone to nit pick the bit about evergreens near putting surfaces.

Aren't the needles from evergreens poisonous to the turf?
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Tim_Weiman

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2003, 07:57:44 AM »
Mark Fine:

Your "cliff notes" post is pretty cool!

FYI, there is a book called "Golf Travel By Design", (Globe Pequot Press) that does a similiar thing for about twenty architects (not including Tillinghast). The book is paperback, less than twenty dollars and is probably a pretty good resource for people just starting to study golf architecture.
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Tim Weiman

Mark_Fine

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2003, 09:03:23 AM »
Thanks Tim!  That book you mentioned is one I don't have.  I'll have to check it out!

Regarding the "evergreens", I was surprised by the position Tillinghast took on those as well.  Can't comment about the needles being poisonous to the turf though?
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Rick Wolffe

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2003, 06:35:36 PM »
Mark's piece looks pretty good to me.

In regard to bunker removal, my take is that Tilly advocated their removal only if they had lost their strategic or architectural value.  Most were of the short variety -- 120 yards off the tee that served no purpose but to punish the weaker player.  Thus Tilly called them duffer's headaches.  The secondary benefit of their removal was the cost savings to the maintenance budget.  Tilly would often play this up to the membership in selling his removal recommendation.

Incidently, on many of his PGA visits Tilly recommended new green side sand pits and bunkers.  He was big on placing a master pit to reward the right positon of the fairway from which to attack the green.

I have it on my radar to start putting the Tilly letters we have up on the Tillinghast.net web site before the Spring arrives.  Everyone will get a chance to interpret and draw their own conclusions.



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Tommy_Naccarato

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2003, 08:44:14 PM »
Phil.
The one book I don't have of Rick's is Gleanings By The Wayside, and for not having it is probably reason enough for me to be banished from the Tillinghast Association for life.

Rick,
It seems to me from some moment from the Ralph Miller, immensed in books, Golf Illustrated or American Golfer, or maybe even one of your books I seem to remember coming across a piece, post-crash, of Tillie being hired by the PGA to consult on courses throughout the country, helping them eleviate some agronomical burden in designs throughout the country. All recreational activity had taken a pretty big hit, after the the crash and alls one has to do is open any of Daniel Wexler's books to see how many really good courses were lost out here alone. Some of the ones that did make it, did it for a period on dirt, if you can believe it!

Anyway, I say it was a really good idea of the PGA to try to interject some life into the game by sending Tillie to help. Probably more then we really know.

On to Bunkers-Tom Mac, I will concur with Mark on this one. Tillie's bunker style varied from place to place. Look at that picture in the Golden Age, and it looks like BB Sr. bunkering. I don't know of many other places he used that same style at. Now placement was another thing. That's probably the one thing I can indentify if a course is Tillie or not. He could put the bunkers in the best spots and no two were alike. I think of that set of green guarding bunkers at SFGC, and I just want to jump for freekin' joy, the stuff is that good.
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T_MacWood

Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2003, 09:25:43 PM »
Tommy
The idea that Tillinghast varied bunker style is based largely on SFGC. Most of Tillinghast's redesign work at SFGC occured in 1920 (the course was built in 1917) and reports at the time claimed most of Tillinghast's work was focused on the back nine. His plan for SFGC (in RW's book) exhibits a bunkering style very similar to his Eastern work and completely different to what now exists (or what was built). The SFGC story has never been fully exposed.

Mark sites Fenway, Winged Foot, Baltusrol and Baltimore as examples of his diverse bunkering, I would take the opposite view, they are examples of a similar style.
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Mark_Fine

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Re: Tillinghast "Cliff Notes" Summary
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2003, 01:19:32 PM »
Tim,
Actually, I realized I do have that book, Golf Travel by Design.  I had forgotten about it.  I just glanced at some of the points on Ross and I'm not so sure I agree with some of it.  Need to study it a bit more.    
Mark
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