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Obviously not new courses-and bastardized versions of their original design-but PCC #1/#3 are the poster children for this scheme.
P.S. In January, BOTH could be played in about three hours.

Regarding PH #3 you can play the first 8 holes in probably less than an hour ;D !  There are 4 par 3's including two that play under 100 yards.
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I fly 4 seat singles.  Does that apply? :-)

Depends. Is the wing on top of the aircraft or the bottom?
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I propose that this question is not a qualitative one but a methodolical one. This, of course, requires a knowledge of the methodology. And the acceptance that the antithesis may live within the three architects proposed. What are the best designs that are the antithesis to the methodology of those three?

BUT

10 years ago scale was getting larger and larger and out-of-control and now that is swinging back to a more modest presentation.

Sedge Valley is as much the antithesis to Streamsong Blue as one could find in that regard. Sand Valley and The Backward at McArthur are another example.
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I fly 4 seat singles.  Does that apply? :-)
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Another pilot? Theres goes the neighborhood.


Welcome Steven!


You too! Give me the specifics.


Thanks for the welcomes everyone.


Denver-based SWA. FO bypassing CA upgrade for awhile longer. Schedule control trumps all.
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I like your point about courses much less than 6000 yards. It seems like 9 hole courses are the most fertile grounds for sub 3000 yarders.
https://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,60714.msg1612703.html#msg1612703
Ciao
That describes my home course perfectly.
https://golfclubatlas.com/in-my-opinion/review-norfolk-golf-country-club/
This is a nice profile and the course looks really interesting.  Great topography.  It's great to read about courses outside of the usual suspects, especially when they look this good!
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Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group / Re: Three Hole Loops
« Last post by Tim Martin on Today at 11:03:59 AM »
10,11,18 and 5,6,2 Yale
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Sean,

The Lions are certainly far the best team in the NFL - Dan Campbell is doing a hell of a job and I do hope they go all the way this season
Still remember games as well as World Cup Football (Soccer in US speak) on TV in the old Pontiac Silverdome


Cheers
Ben


That's debatable to say the least, the Chiefs are certainly still the heir apparent until they get knocked off thier perch....and right now I'm only seeing two teams with a chance:  Detroit and Buffalo

Dan C remains his biggest enemy given last years NFC champ game debacle.
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It’s there already!
Folks don’t need, need, really need, to play from back tees nor have 14 clubs in the bag.

Move the tees forward and carry only 7-8 clubs.
And have courses set-up with less rough and gunch so finding wayward shots is quicker.
Fingers crossed for less than 3 hrs.
Atb
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Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group / Re: Three Hole Loops
« Last post by Will Spivey on Today at 10:20:17 AM »
Old Town Club has a brilliant 3 hole loop on holes 1,2, and 3. After 3 you are basically back at your car / clubhouse too. Within these 3 holes you hit a variety of downhill and uphill shots and play a par 3.


Cal, I love that loop, and I would add 10, 11, 18, which is another common 3 hole loop for members.
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