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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Brian_Gracely on February 17, 2004, 09:14:17 PM
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7th Hole...... 230yd Par 3 from the back tee:
(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/339%3A298323232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D8%3A9%3D86%3C%3DXROQDF%3E23234%3A7%3B939%3B6ot1lsi)
A more overhead view from Mike Strantz' website:
(http://www.mikestrantzdesign.com/CoursePics/MPCCPics/Construction/400_Nov-No-7-Finished.jpg)
Mike's original sketch. There was a bunker proposed for the left front of the green but Strantz was persuaded that 90% of the members would probably take an hour to get out of the thing. It was nixed.
(http://www.mikestrantzdesign.com/MPCC/mpcc7.jpg)
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I know not how to get this into the' Long Three Par' thread but here goes.
This is Mike Strantz's 7th hole on MPCC's Shore Course. Although only about 230 yards long, you can see that if you hit it a yard short of the green you will roll down the slope some twenty to thirty yards.
I will try to post something on the 9th hole of the course, 241 yards with a monumental carry to a severe two tier green.
The Dunes (Raynor's Biarritz) is 241 yards slightly downhill. A well hit persimmon 3 wood is enough for the task at hand.
Bob
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Bob,
Here's another of #7:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/foodstat/MPCC%20Shore/mps07.jpg)
And here are two of #9:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/foodstat/MPCC%20Shore/mps09a.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v478/foodstat/MPCC%20Shore/mps09b.jpg)
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Didn't someone once ace the Biarritz on the Dunes Course with a well hit persimmon 3 wood?
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This is Mike Strantz's 7th hole on MPCC's Shore Course. Although only about 230 yards long, you can see that if you hit it a yard short of the green you will roll down the slope some twenty to thirty yards.
I will try to post something on the 9th hole of the course, 241 yards with a monumental carry to a severe two tier green.
Bob
Just to gather a point of reference, what is the total yardage, rating and slope of the MPCC Shore course from the tees shown ? (tips?)
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Tees shown see to be up tees... here is all the info for both courses, from NCGA website:
Tee Info (Men)
Color Par Rating Slope Yardage
Gold (Dunes) 72 73.8 134 6762
Gold (Shore) 72 73.6 138 6806
Special (Dunes) 72 72.3 132 6498
Black (Dunes) 72 72.1 132 6470
Black (Shore) 72 71.8 134 6480
Blue (Dunes) 72 70.7 126 6108
Blue (Shore) 72 69.9 129 6047
White (Dunes) 72 69.2 124 5830
White (Shore) 69 68.4 125 5719
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Scott,
The date on your photos says 2025!
Do you have a time machine ;D
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I've played the hole and liked it very much - but would have preferred Mike's version.
1. Missing left and in the bunker would be better than finishing in the rocks and scrub
2. you would have had a better view of the ocean
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Scott,
Quite wonderful photographs. Thanks for posting.
Bob
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Scott's first photograph shows you how severe the front left bank is. That would be a tough second shot, that 30-40 yard pitch, so far below the green. Bob, you can't always see the pin from down there, can you?
I only toured the course, but the 7th and especially the 9th hole looked quite difficult. Very tough par 3s there.
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The 7th with a bunker as envisioned would be on the order of the 6th at Pacific Dunes. No, the green isn't that shallow, but think of how many players can't get out of that hazard in the first place...holding the green is rarely the issue.
These are two very solid, very difficult holes. For a good player to play the two at a cumulative +1, I would guess would be an accomplishment.
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A better shot of how severe the slope is:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e38/jedpeters/IMG_0054.jpg)
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....why not just play the hole and record your score and move on.