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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Jeff Schley on December 08, 2022, 08:59:27 AM
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2022 was probably the first real time to get back into traveling for golf. So 2023 is still going to be a big year (unless we get a recession) for golfing. What courses or trips that you have planned are you most looking forward to playing in 2023?
Me, I have a trip to Japan in September that was postponed since 2020. Will be something I really have been dreaming about.
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I managed to dodge Covid until May of this year. I had a trip to Inverness that had to be canceled as a result and will look forward to rescheduling in 23. Hopefully I can pair it up with a visit to Scioto for an Andrew Green doubleheader.
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The only trip in 2023 I've tentatively booked is September at the Carmel Peninsula to (finally) play Pebble Beach (I've previously walked much of it) and some others booked through the resort (Old Del Monte, Bayonet & Black Horse, Spyglass, Pacific Grove, and Peter Hay. May try to squeeze something like Sharp Park or Harding Park in on front or back end.
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All pre-brags must be followed by post-brags with pics. I personally prefer bragging in real time.
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Tenative list for 2023
Streamsong Red (FL)
Streamsong Black (FL)
Bobby Jones GC (FL) new, renovated version
Kenwood CC (both) (OH)
NCR North and South (OH)
Eagle Eye (OH)
Leatherstocking (NY)
Mark Twain (NY)
Links Hiawatha (NY)
Bedford Springs (PA)
Sand Valley (WI)
Mammoth Dunes (WI)
Lido (WI)
Sandbox (WI)
Arcadia South (MI)
Stotin Brae (MI)
American Dunes (MI)
Diamond Springs (MI)
Springfield CC (OH)
Old Union (GA)
Sequoyah National (NC)
Coral Gables Biltmore (FL)
Gasparilla (FL)
Flossmoor CC (IL)
Ravisloe CC (IL)
RTJ Judge (AL)
RTJ Legislator (AL)
Farm Links (AL)
Aiken GC (SC)
Olde Barnwell (SC)
Parris Island (SC)
Forest Hills GC (GA)
Fort Gordon (GA)
Bulls Bay (SC)
Wm Devine (MA)
Ponkapoag (MA)
Fresh Pond (MA)
Presidents (MA)
Old Salem Greens (MA)
Leo J. Martin (MA)
Newton Commonwealth (MA)
Highlands Links (MA)
Giant at Quarry Ridge (MN)
Chaska Town (MN)
Park Mammoth (KY)
Wasioto WInds (KY)
3 courses in Portugal
West Cliffs
Troia
Praia Del Rey
1 course around Toronto TBD
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The only trip in 2023 I've tentatively booked is September at the Carmel Peninsula to (finally) play Pebble Beach (I've previously walked much of it) and some others booked through the resort (Old Del Monte, Bayonet & Black Horse, Spyglass, Pacific Grove, and Peter Hay. May try to squeeze something like Sharp Park or Harding Park in on front or back end.
David might get mad at me for saying this, but Sharp Park is not worth the squeeze. You'd have a ton more fun playing Lincoln Park if the other San Fran delights aren't on the ticket.
As for myself i'll be in LA next June to take in a practice round at LACC, hoping to squeeze some golf in around So Cal, and perhaps even Central Cali
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I am in the midst of re booking the Scotland trip that we postponed in 2020:
Kings and Queens
Cruden Bay
Fraserburgh
Elie
Crail Balcomie
If anyone knows how to rig the ballot for TOC, please PM me.
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The only trip in 2023 I've tentatively booked is September at the Carmel Peninsula to (finally) play Pebble Beach (I've previously walked much of it) and some others booked through the resort (Old Del Monte, Bayonet & Black Horse, Spyglass, Pacific Grove, and Peter Hay. May try to squeeze something like Sharp Park or Harding Park in on front or back end.
David might get mad at me for saying this, but Sharp Park is not worth the squeeze. You'd have a ton more fun playing Lincoln Park if the other San Fran delights aren't on the ticket.
As for myself i'll be in LA next June to take in a practice round at LACC, hoping to squeeze some golf in around So Cal, and perhaps even Central Cali
Amen ! Sharp Park has great possibility for the future but not so hot now.
I’d try Pasatiempo, Corica Park or The Presidio as alternatives
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Thanks Kalen and DFarron,
Probably a game day decision based on flights, etc.
Is it the condition of Sharp Park that's in question? Or just not enough evidence of Dr. Mac left?
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Scheduled to play in Ireland in August (3rd trip) but will be playing Lahinch for the first time. Looking forward to that.
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After my epic 27 courses played in England, Scotland, NI, and Donegal Ireland in 2022, my 2023 must playlist is rather tame: Iona and Lofoten.
There is a logic to the list. I’m going to help my 86 year-old Aunt travel to her annual religious retreat on the Isle of Iona. Getting to Iona requires a train, 2 busses, and a ferry - she’s too old to be doing that so I’m flying over with her and then renting a car and driving her to the ferry. Might as well play Iona since I’m going to be there.
While she’s doing her two week retreat, I will fly off and do some sightseeing in Norway, Finland, Estonia and of course play Lofoten.
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Walker Cup in St Andrews.
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First golf trip ever with my brother, and we're going to Bandon in May for a belated 40th birthday celebration for him. I am extremely excited.
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Wrong thread
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Been to Ireland a half dozen times but did not play. Next Fall planning on playing counter clockwise from Dublin to the west coast and back to Dubs.
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There are 8 states where I am yet to play golf - they include Conn, Del, Maine, NH, RI, Vermont and WV. My wife has suggested a driving trip next spring playing in each of them.
I'm sure I'll be asking for recommendations on where to play.
I'm only 80...the clock is ticking.
Doug
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After two unsuccessful attempts to get to NZ during COVID restrictions over the past couple of years - here's hoping 2023 is third time lucky.
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My wife and I are planning two months in Scotland next summer.
Twelve days in Fife, six in Nairn, a month near Dornach and two weeks in Golspie.
Missed out on the St. Andrews early ballot, so no golf booked yet.
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I maybe spending some time this summer in Charleston. If so hoping to play CC of Charleston and Yeamans if I do.
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I have a trip planned to go back to Australia and then visit New Zealand for the first time.
I am also taking my daughter to The Open Championship in Liverpool and then we are going to St Andrews.
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I've had this one in mind since before the pandemic and hope to do it in Sept 2023. I've played a dozen + of the well known Surrey heaths and this will be a trip to see some of the ones I've missed on prior visits. Also hope to see the big guys in Kent. These will all be new to me. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
West Hill
Hindhead
Liphook
Hayling
West Sussex (Pulborough)
Rye Old
Royal St George (Sandwich)
Royal Cinque Ports (Deal)
Royal Ashdown Forest
Tandridge
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We’ll be doing a ton of motorhoming next year with a potential trip to Ireland on the agenda. I’ll maybe post up asking for ideas for out of the way fun courses nearer the time.
Please consider this Post as the usual open invite to GCAers coming to Scotland/Fife for a round at Ladybank. Drop me a PM if you are heading this way or even just need some general info.
Cheers,
F.
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9 days time Te Arai
January : Hope Island
April : St Andrews Beach
Peninsula North and South
National Gunnamatta
Yarra Yarra
Victoria
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Ash -
I'm very jealous. Please let us know what you think of Te Arai.
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Jim,
No problem.
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I am making the trip to Scotland with a friend next summer. Hard to communicate how excited I am to finally experience it.
TOC (fingers crossed for ballot or queue)
Elie
Gullane
North Berwick
Dunbar
Kilspindie
Also, visiting Old Barnwell is on the list. Could be a memorable year.
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North Berwick, Gullane, Kilspindie etc in mid-March rescheduling the equivalent trip that had to be cancelled last Oct.
Atb
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I'm hoping to get to Banff Springs and Jasper Park sometime in July. This would be my first visit to the area.
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TOC (fingers crossed for ballot or queue)
Elie
Gullane
North Berwick
Dunbar
Kilspindie
What? No Castle Course?
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Amongst others planned for home here in the UK ie Scotland etc. the big one will be first ever trip to Bandon early July where we have Preserve, PD, BT, Ranch, Old Mac and BD booked up - have been consuming all the videos and reviews i can find to whet the appetite.
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Amongst others planned for home here in the UK ie Scotland etc. the big one will be first ever trip to Bandon early July where we have Preserve, PD, BT, Ranch, Old Mac and BD booked up - have been consuming all the videos and reviews i can find to whet the appetite.
If you don't have them already buy Dream Golf & The making of Pacific Dunes. Both are great reads.
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TOC (fingers crossed for ballot or queue)
Elie
Gullane
North Berwick
Dunbar
Kilspindie
What? No Castle Course?
I must’ve forgotten to list it.
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A nice summary from Tim Gavarich's article.
https://www.golfpass.com/travel-advisor/articles/23-brand-new-golf-courses-expected-to-open-in-2023
One I hope to see is in Mauritius. Louis Oosthuizen, didn't know he was active at all.
Heritage Golf Club - La Reserve Course Mauritius
Architects: Peter Matkovich, Louis Oosthuizen
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Old Barnwell
Holston Hills
Montclair, NJ
Davenport
Cedarbrook
Rockville Links
Capstone
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A nice summary from Tim Gavarich's article.
https://www.golfpass.com/travel-advisor/articles/23-brand-new-golf-courses-expected-to-open-in-2023 (https://www.golfpass.com/travel-advisor/articles/23-brand-new-golf-courses-expected-to-open-in-2023)
One I hope to see is in Mauritius. Louis Oosthuizen, didn't know he was active at all.
Heritage Golf Club - La Reserve Course Mauritius
Architects: Peter Matkovich, Louis Oosthuizen
Jeff--
You might be the only one on GCA who is convenient to it geographically
Best
Paul
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A nice summary from Tim Gavarich's article.
https://www.golfpass.com/travel-advisor/articles/23-brand-new-golf-courses-expected-to-open-in-2023 (https://www.golfpass.com/travel-advisor/articles/23-brand-new-golf-courses-expected-to-open-in-2023)
One I hope to see is in Mauritius. Louis Oosthuizen, didn't know he was active at all.
Heritage Golf Club - La Reserve Course Mauritius
Architects: Peter Matkovich, Louis Oosthuizen
Jeff--
You might be the only one on GCA who is convenient to it geographically
Best
Paul
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Amongst others planned for home here in the UK ie Scotland etc. the big one will be first ever trip to Bandon early July where we have Preserve, PD, BT, Ranch, Old Mac and BD booked up - have been consuming all the videos and reviews i can find to whet the appetite.
If you don't have them already buy Dream Golf & The making of Pacific Dunes. Both are great reads.
Thanks Tommy for the heads up - have Dream Golf on order already - The making of Pacific Dunes when i can raid the penny jar - looking forward to the read.
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Walker Cup in St Andrews.
I too plan to attend the Walker Cup in St. Andrews, preceded by a few days in Gullane and a few days in Aberdeen. I also can't wait for a return to Toronto Golf which I played for the first time last year and really enjoyed.
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Southern Wales planning in process.
Invite to Crystal Downs need to lock in dates and plan a few other rounds.
Was hoping to get to Fife again.
Other than that, lots of NC golf.
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Planning to visit Old Barnwell and Pinehurst in March. Maybe get up to Sedge Valley sometime this summer.
Don’t think any will actually be open for play, except for some holes at OB.
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I am looking forward to returning to my pre-Covid routine of spending 4 weeks in Dornoch in the spring and then going back for 3 weeks in late August.
Yes, I am a very lucky guy. ;)
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We’ll be doing a ton of motorhoming next year with a potential trip to Ireland on the agenda. I’ll maybe post up asking for ideas for out of the way fun courses nearer the time.
Please consider this Post as the usual open invite to GCAers coming to Scotland/Fife for a round at Ladybank. Drop me a PM if you are heading this way or even just need some general info.
Cheers,
F.
Our only firm booking is a week in Lamlash w/c 22nd May. We intend playing all the courses on the island as well as a side trip to Machrihanish/Dunaverty.
If your motor home was to find its way to Arran that week it would be a very happy coincidence! 👍
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Southern Wales planning in process.
Invite to Crystal Downs need to lock in dates and plan a few other rounds.
Was hoping to get to Fife again.
Other than that, lots of NC golf.
I too have a S Wales trip planned for return visits to Tenby and Southerndown. Plus never played before St David's City and Cardigan.
Another trip to Scotland for never played before Panmure, Kinghorn and Ladybank.
I am going to Edinburgh ostensibly for the 6 Nations Ireland/Scotland match. Maybe I can seek in a game at haven't seen in yonks Musselburgh Old or Braid Hills...or Longniddry.
Ciao
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Royal Porthcawl and Royal St. George’s (yes … on the same trip) and revisiting Swinley Forest.
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Royal Porthcawl and Royal St. George’s (yes … on the same trip) and revisiting Swinley Forest.
Oh yes, the 6 hour detour trip. Are you spending the night somewhere near Porthcawl? If so you may as well stay in the Dormy house.
Ciao
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Northern New England getaway to Prouts Neck and Cape Arundel. Also hope to schedule a Connecticut “finest Nines” doubleheader at Hotchkiss School and Norfolk County Club.
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Yes, that trip …
We are only playing 18 holes that day, so we go back to Egham afterwards. We then drive out to Deal Monday morning.
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Yes, that trip …
We are only playing 18 holes that day, so we go back to Egham afterwards. We then drive out to Deal Monday morning.
Gulp....
Ciao
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Here's my "reading" list. I'm shooting for (I haven't arrangements on some of these....):
Ardfin (my understanding is that they may be shutting down to all outside play)
Machrie
Dumbarnie Links
Hunstaunton
Les Bordes (both)
Royal Hague
Utretch de Pan
El Saler
Hamilton
St Georges
National
Jockey Club
Olivos
Buenos Aires
Pilara
Capelco
Desafio
Arelauquen
Rich Harvest
Canyata
and Tom's new course at Lido
Next year Tara Iti revisit! Hope to also canvas the South Island where I've been but not played golf.
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Here's my "reading" list. I'm shooting for (I haven't arrangements on some of these....):
Ardfin (my understanding is that they may be shutting down to all outside play)
Machrie
Dumbarnie Links
Hunstaunton
Les Bordes (both)
Royal Hague
Utretch de Pan
El Saler
Hamilton
St Georges
National
Jockey Club
Olivos
Buenos Aires
Pilara
Capelco
Desafio
Arelauquen
Rich Harvest
Canyata
and Tom's new course at Lido
Next year Tara Iti revisit! Hope to also canvas the South Island where I've been but not played golf.
JC- I count Argentina, Netherlands, Canada, U.S., Spain, France, Scotland and England in your 2023 plans. That puts the I in Intrepid. WOW!!!!!
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Just an old traveling fool... I only have a few years left of this as I'm 70.
Just came back from Japan
Here's my Golfweek piece on it.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/playing-japan-in-style-golfweeks-best-raters-sample-some-of-asias-best-courses/ (https://golfweek.usatoday.com/lists/playing-japan-in-style-golfweeks-best-raters-sample-some-of-asias-best-courses/)
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Ireland Trip!
May 30- Portstewart StrandMay 31- R Portrush Valley (Dunluce if it opens up)June 1- St Patrick's LinksJune 2- RCD Annesley (Championship is opens up)June 3- TBD. Likely Corballis Links. my favorite $30 course in the world
Any "hidden gem" courses in N Ireland and Dublin area I should consider? Any courses mowed by sheep in those areas?
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"Any "hidden gem" courses in N Ireland and Dublin area I should consider?"
Peter B. -
The 18 & 9 hole courses at Castlerock in NI are certainly worth playing.
https://www.castlerockgc.co.uk/ (https://www.castlerockgc.co.uk/)
DT
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Was surprisingly pleased with Slieve Russell. Somewhat American parkland course but a cool routing around a feature lake with quite a diverse set of holes. Maybe just behind Adare? But better than Dromoland, Juliet, K Clubs, Killeen and Lough Erne.
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Ireland Trip!
May 30- Portstewart StrandMay 31- R Portrush Valley (Dunluce if it opens up)June 1- St Patrick's LinksJune 2- RCD Annesley (Championship is opens up)June 3- TBD. Likely Corballis Links. my favorite $30 course in the world
Any "hidden gem" courses in N Ireland and Dublin area I should consider? Any courses mowed by sheep in those areas?
You can try the wonderfully named Bushfoot. A 9 holer a few miles east of Portrush. I haven't played it, but took a quick look...and I would play it when next back in the area.
Ciao
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Tenative list for 2023
Streamsong Red (FL)
Streamsong Black (FL)
Bobby Jones GC (FL) new, renovated version
Kenwood CC (both) (OH)
NCR North and South (OH)
Eagle Eye (OH)
Leatherstocking (NY)
Mark Twain (NY)
Links Hiawatha (NY)
Bedford Springs (PA)
Sand Valley (WI)
Mammoth Dunes (WI)
Lido (WI)
Sandbox (WI)
Arcadia South (MI)
Stotin Brae (MI)
American Dunes (MI)
Diamond Springs (MI)
Springfield CC (OH)
Old Union (GA)
Sequoyah National (NC)
Coral Gables Biltmore (FL)
Gasparilla (FL)
Flossmoor CC (IL)
Ravisloe CC (IL)
RTJ Judge (AL)
RTJ Legislator (AL)
Farm Links (AL)
Aiken GC (SC)
Olde Barnwell (SC)
Parris Island (SC)
Forest Hills GC (GA)
Fort Gordon (GA)
Bulls Bay (SC)
Wm Devine (MA)
Ponkapoag (MA)
Fresh Pond (MA)
Presidents (MA)
Old Salem Greens (MA)
Leo J. Martin (MA)
Newton Commonwealth (MA)
Highlands Links (MA)
Giant at Quarry Ridge (MN)
Chaska Town (MN)
Park Mammoth (KY)
Wasioto WInds (KY)
3 courses in Portugal
West Cliffs
Troia
Praia Del Rey
1 course around Toronto TBD
Fun to see my childhood muni on the docket w/ Olde Salem Greens :) [size=78%]. [/size]
Headed to Scotland for my first time in May;
North Berwick
Dumbarnie
Kingsbarn
Royal Aberdeen
Cruden Bay
Royal Dornoch
Castle Stuart
Will try to knock off Old Sandwich locally if fate can align.
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TOC (fingers crossed for ballot or queue)
Elie
Gullane
North Berwick
Dunbar
Kilspindie
What? No Castle Course?
;D
BTW, keeping on topic, my wife and I are spending all of August and September in Scotland. Twelve days in Fife, six in Nairn, a month in a caravan park outside Dornoch and two weeks in Golspie.
No tee times, but I want to replay Lundin, Crail and probably Elie. Missed on the lottery for TOC, but will enter the ballot. Zero interest in Castle or Kingsbarns.
Kinda want to play Duff House Royal while we're in Nairn. Been a long time since we played Boat so that might be an option.
Up north I want to get up past Wick at least once. Thurso, Reay, Durness?
Maybe Portmahomack at least once.
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Am in Thailand now, in Pattaya. Lined up four rounds here with Golf Asian, three at Old Siam courses, one at Phoenix Gold. Moving to Hua Hin and will play Banyan and Black Mountain. Will also try to play Royal Hua Hin. Have other golf lined up at Nikanti and Suwan.
Flying home February 4th, then heading to Australia from February 25th to March 27th, mostly around Mornington Peninsula (19th trip). Happy to meet up and play in that area. Will mostly play at National Golf Club.
Going trekking in Japan in late May. First part of June is open. May bring golf clubs. Solo golf travel in Japan has some challenges, so I generally enjoy other pursuits.
Back in Washington State, hope to use my senior punch cards at Gold Mountain Olympic and maybe travel to Gamble Sands and Wine Valley.
Been to New York City a couple of times and might try Beth Page Black and Red this year.
Have toyed with idea of playing a couple of Mike Strantz courses in Virginia.
Charles Lund
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The only trip in 2023 I've tentatively booked is September at the Carmel Peninsula to (finally) play Pebble Beach (I've previously walked much of it) and some others booked through the resort (Old Del Monte, Bayonet & Black Horse, Spyglass, Pacific Grove, and Peter Hay. May try to squeeze something like Sharp Park or Harding Park in on front or back end.
David might get mad at me for saying this, but Sharp Park is not worth the squeeze. You'd have a ton more fun playing Lincoln Park if the other San Fran delights aren't on the ticket.
As for myself i'll be in LA next June to take in a practice round at LACC, hoping to squeeze some golf in around So Cal, and perhaps even Central Cali
Amen ! Sharp Park has great possibility for the future but not so hot now.
I’d try Pasatiempo, Corica Park or The Presidio as alternatives
Reminder about Pasatiempo:
The front nine holes will be closed for restoration from April 2023 until December 2023, while the back nine holes will remain open. All eighteen holes will be open for play from December 2023 to April 2024. The back nine holes will be closed for restoration from April 2024 to December 2024, while the front nine holes will be open for play. The restoration will be completed with all eighteen holes open in December 2024.
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Late April/Early May trip, still tweaking but so far:
Portsalon
Rosapenna (Sandy Hills/Old Tom Morris)
Rosapanna (St. Patrick Links)
Ballyliffin (Old/Glasheady)
Sligo (Championship)
Strandhill
Royal Portrush (Dunluce)
Portstewart
Donegal
Narin & Portnoo
Enniscrone
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BTW, keeping on topic, my wife and I are spending all of August and September in Scotland. Twelve days in Fife, six in Nairn, a month in a caravan park outside Dornoch and two weeks in Golspie.
No tee times, but I want to replay Lundin, Crail and probably Elie. Missed on the lottery for TOC, but will enter the ballot. Zero interest in Castle or Kingsbarns.
Kinda want to play Duff House Royal while we're in Nairn. Been a long time since we played Boat so that might be an option.
Up north I want to get up past Wick at least once. Thurso, Reay, Durness?
Maybe Portmahomack at least once.
Thurso, Reay, Durness YES! Each a piece unto itself, all well worth the journey. The drive to Durness is spectacular.
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BTW, keeping on topic, my wife and I are spending all of August and September in Scotland. Twelve days in Fife, six in Nairn, a month in a caravan park outside Dornoch and two weeks in Golspie.
No tee times, but I want to replay Lundin, Crail and probably Elie. Missed on the lottery for TOC, but will enter the ballot. Zero interest in Castle or Kingsbarns.
Kinda want to play Duff House Royal while we're in Nairn. Been a long time since we played Boat so that might be an option.
Up north I want to get up past Wick at least once. Thurso, Reay, Durness?
Maybe Portmahomack at least once.
Thurso, Reay, Durness YES! Each a piece unto itself, all well worth the journey. The drive to Durness is spectacular.
If I had two months I would definitely spend some of that time island hopping!
Ciao
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Tenative list for 2023
Streamsong Red (FL)
Streamsong Black (FL)
Bobby Jones GC (FL) new, renovated version
Kenwood CC (both) (OH)
NCR North and South (OH)
Eagle Eye (OH)
Leatherstocking (NY)
Mark Twain (NY)
Links Hiawatha (NY)
Bedford Springs (PA)
Sand Valley (WI)
Mammoth Dunes (WI)
Lido (WI)
Sandbox (WI)
Arcadia South (MI)
Stotin Brae (MI)
American Dunes (MI)
Diamond Springs (MI)
Springfield CC (OH)
Old Union (GA)
Sequoyah National (NC)
Coral Gables Biltmore (FL)
Gasparilla (FL)
Flossmoor CC (IL)
Ravisloe CC (IL)
RTJ Judge (AL)
RTJ Legislator (AL)
Farm Links (AL)
Aiken GC (SC)
Olde Barnwell (SC)
Parris Island (SC)
Forest Hills GC (GA)
Fort Gordon (GA)
Bulls Bay (SC)
Wm Devine (MA)
Ponkapoag (MA)
Fresh Pond (MA)
Presidents (MA)
Old Salem Greens (MA)
Leo J. Martin (MA)
Newton Commonwealth (MA)
Highlands Links (MA)
Giant at Quarry Ridge (MN)
Chaska Town (MN)
Park Mammoth (KY)
Wasioto WInds (KY)
3 courses in Portugal
West Cliffs
Troia
Praia Del Rey
1 course around Toronto TBD
Fun to see my childhood muni on the docket w/ Olde Salem Greens :) [size=78%]. [/size]
Headed to Scotland for my first time in May;
North Berwick
Dumbarnie
Kingsbarn
Royal Aberdeen
Cruden Bay
Royal Dornoch
Castle Stuart
Will try to knock off Old Sandwich locally if fate can align.
You're going to Fife for the first time and playing two manufactured modern courses but none of the St Andrews courses, or any of Fife's other traditional links?