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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: James Brown on January 08, 2020, 08:59:23 PM

Title: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: James Brown on January 08, 2020, 08:59:23 PM
See the other thread on conditioning reminded me that I wanted to ask a separate, but related question.


Which courses do you think have better conditioning during the winter than in the summer?  (In their respective hemispheres)


Part of why I ask the question is that I have been reading a lot recently on the origins of golf as a winter game in Scotland and how much this has influence how we think about conditions today. 
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: Jay Mickle on January 08, 2020, 11:03:09 PM
My two favorites in the NC Sandhills are #2 and Dormie with dormant Bermuda for outstanding playing conditions. Over seeded local courses play soft and slow, not up to their spring/summer/fall conditions. Additionally, winter means fewer people and faster rounds. My favorite time of year to play.
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: Kalen Braley on January 10, 2020, 01:00:22 PM
Good question.


Even here in Utah the fall and winter almost always present a better playing surface, especially when its 25 degrees and everything is fast and firm!  ;D   The one downside is ball marks are more difficult to repair, but they're usually a a fair bit smaller.
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: John Emerson on January 10, 2020, 03:29:32 PM
The best greens I’ve ever played on have been dormant Bermuda.
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: Jason Topp on January 10, 2020, 05:11:03 PM
I played an event at Streamsong in January a couple of times and thought that was the perfect course condition - kind of half dormant/half growing.  Akin to what one gets in the north in the late fall.
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: John Emerson on January 10, 2020, 06:38:07 PM
I played an event at Streamsong in January a couple of times and thought that was the perfect course condition - kind of half dormant/half growing.  Akin to what one gets in the north in the late fall.


Agreed
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: Stewart Abramson on January 10, 2020, 07:20:33 PM
My two favorites in the NC Sandhills are #2 and Dormie with dormant Bermuda for outstanding playing conditions. Over seeded local courses play soft and slow, not up to their spring/summer/fall conditions. Additionally, winter means fewer people and faster rounds. My favorite time of year to play.


I played #2 and #4 last month. The conditions were amazing. The greens were almost too fast.  As you said, few people and very fast rounds. Here are links to photos. You need to be of the mind that brown is beautiful.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/albums/72157712323763597 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/albums/72157712323763597)  Pinehurst #2


https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/albums/72157712279480736 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/golfcoursepix/albums/72157712279480736) Pinehurst #4
Title: Re: Winter Golf and Conditioning
Post by: James Brown on January 10, 2020, 08:46:30 PM
I am surprised and intrigued that all the responses so far have been about US courses.  When I wrote this I was thinking about UK courses and how the “Winter Game” started in Scotland. 


And it’s clear dormant Bermuda is awesome.