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Title: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Jeff Schley on November 30, 2019, 09:01:56 AM
Kudos to Thomas for starting us off with what for many of us was an embarrasing exercise in ignorance for UK GCA's.  I failed miserably and let's see how everyone else does here. Some of these I dug a little bit as they are obvious.  Apologies to the famous golfers Nicklaus, Crenshaw, and Palmer as they were too obvious and earned their place certainly.  Let's see how bad the formatting gets.
How many did you get?
Answers in post #20!  See how many you can get first.

A. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/186/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575095384)

B. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/314/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575095660)

C. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/194/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575095756)

D. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/A.W.Tillinghast1909.jpg)

E. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/310/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575096182)

F. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/74/PerryMaxwell.JPG)

G.(https://www.top100golfcourses.com/img/architects/43_5c926b1036425.jpg)

H. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/291/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575096463)

I. (https://www.akigolftravel.se/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Jones-I.jpg)

J. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Devereux_Emmet.JPG)

K. (https://www.linksmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/TomDoak-copy-264x300.jpg)

L. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/243/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575097124)

M. (https://tclf.org/sites/default/files/styles/crop_268x268/public/thumbnails/image/Raynor_Seth-sig.jpg?itok=0uWiiI6w)

N. (https://williambellsociety.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/wm-parc-bell-image.jpg)

O. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/Coore-Bill.jpg)

P. (https://www.golfcourseranking.com/pics/GeorgeArthurCrump_1450502534.jpg)

Q. (http://www.floridagolfmagazine.com/FGMwinter2016/images/Alice-on-dozer.jpg)

R. (https://www.top100golfcourses.com/img/architects/466_5c9cfd5de46af.jpg)

S. (https://pinestrawmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ps-golftown-12-16.jpg)

T. (https://www.golfcourseranking.com/pics/RobertTrentJonesJr_1415112214.jpg)

U. (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QDoPVOqOUFg/RpIpm_PHHtI/AAAAAAAABCY/Uj7PEpT7KMU/s320/macdonald6.jpg)

V. (https://media.golfdigest.com/photos/55ad73c0b01eefe207f6a43e/master/pass/golf-courses-blogs-wheres-matty-g-Hanse_7.jpg)

W. (https://www.top100golfcourses.com/img/architects/51_5c49d9639ee8a.jpg)

X. (https://cdn.britannica.com/59/115359-004-F56F6399/Walter-Travis.jpg)

Y. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/207/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575100070)

Z. as HS golfer (http://www.floridagolfmagazine.com/FGMwinter2012/images/youngpeteswing.jpg)
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 09:28:02 AM
I recognize nearly everyone here except I have no idea who is W.


PS. A couple of these might have been slightly harder had you managed to crop out a logo of one of their courses 😉
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Jeff Schley on November 30, 2019, 09:42:09 AM
Bonus round as sticking with 26 is not enough IMO for the American pride we all have. I wanted to put more, but I got fatigue, sorry as I know there are some on here deserving no doubt.
1. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/336/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575101494)

2. (https://www.mibluemag.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/117/2015/08/Mike-DeVries-200x300.png)

3. (https://golf-info-guide.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Billy-Casper.jpg)(https://images.app.goo.gl/YFWmyUurcocw5mJLA)

4. (http://photos.geni.com/p13/94/75/b2/4a/5344483993089c2a/fezlerpic_original.jpg)

5. (https://www.tehamagolfclub.com/webart/customtext/211x270x14.jpg.pagespeed.ic.kGUBxB3Vue.jpg)

6. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/240/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575106061)

7. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/298/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575102683)

8. (https://www.farmersinsuranceopen.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/1968TomWeiskopf-1.jpg)

9. (https://www.usga.org/content/dam/usga/images/imported/articles/2010/05/b_1000-00616.jpg)

10. (https://members.gapgolf.org/i/p065_01.jpg)

11. (http://otlgolf.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/von-Hagge-OYG4.gif)

(http://[b]https://www.top100golfcourses.com/images/Robert_von_Hagge.jpg[/b])12. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/216/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575104740)13. (https://asgca.org/wp-content/uploads/ultimatemember/321/profile_photo-190.jpg?1575104847)


14. I didn't know changes were coming to TOC.(https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00677/trump404_677425c.jpg)


15. not quite a designer, but big(https://s3.amazonaws.com/golftripmedia/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/07120029/Mike-Keiser.jpg)


16. (http://www.edcinc.org/wp-content/uploads/VH2016Webversion-289x300.jpg)


17. (https://www.golf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/jan31_morrissett_299x409_0.jpg)


18. (https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000hzNQPt9oEH8/fit=1000x750/g=G0000T60w8zOkYCE/JACK-NEVILLE-1926.jpg)
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Jeff Schley on November 30, 2019, 09:54:02 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 09:28:02 AM
I recognize nearly everyone here except I have no idea who is W.


PS. A couple of these might have been slightly harder had you managed to crop out a logo of one of their courses 😉
As a former head coach I used to work for would say when someone's idea fountain was running full speed: "That's a great idea! Your on it!"
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Ken Fry on November 30, 2019, 10:08:43 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 09:28:02 AM


I recognize nearly everyone here except I have no idea who is W.

Ironic Tom, that's one of the ones I did get immediately.  Think West Coast.

For those of us outside the business, it's enlightening to reinforce we know all the names of "recent" architects but sometimes not the faces!!

Ken
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Derek_Duncan on November 30, 2019, 10:14:20 AM
A. Jan Bel Jan
B.Bobby Weed
C. Jeff Brauer
D.
E. Steve Smyers
F. Perry Maxwell
G.
H. Kyle Phillips
I. RTJ
J.
K. Tom Doak
L. Dr. Hurdzan
M. Seth Raynor
N. Billy Bell
O. Bill Coore
P. Dick Wilson ??
Q. Alice Dye
R. Mike Strantz
S. Tom Fazio
T. RTJ II
U. AM
V. Gil Hanse
W.
X. Walter Travis
Y. Brian Curley
Z.


Bonus.
1. Andy Staples
2. Mike DeVries
3. Joe Finger ??
4. John Harbottle
5. Jay Morrish
6. Art Hills
7. Forrest Richardson
8. Tom Weiskopf
9.
10.

11. Robert Von Hagge
12.
13. Jim Engh
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 10:25:17 AM
Derek:  Are you sure about #4?  John was my housemate for several months and I did not recognize him in this photo.  (Of course, we were only 23 or 24 back then.)
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Derek_Duncan on November 30, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 10:25:17 AM
Derek:  Are you sure about #4?  John was my housemate for several months and I did not recognize him in this photo.  (Of course, we were only 23 or 24 back then.)


I can't be 100% positive. I was going by first impressions.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Kyle Harris on November 30, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 09:28:02 AM
I recognize nearly everyone here except I have no idea who is W.


I'm shocked, actually. Flabbergasted.

William Flynn looks husky in his photo.


I'd love to have seen the photo of Alfred Tull that everyone thinks is Mackenzie.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Kyle Harris on November 30, 2019, 12:39:41 PM
G: William Flynn
W: GEORGE THOMAS
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Ken Fry on November 30, 2019, 01:38:26 PM
Good on you Kyle.  William Flynn was the photo that threw me.
D is a young picture missing the famous mustache most are use to seeing.
Ken
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Kyle Harris on November 30, 2019, 01:44:00 PM
D: Albert Warren Tillinghast
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kyle Harris on November 30, 2019, 12:39:41 PM
G: William Flynn
W: GEORGE THOMAS


I actually did recognize Flynn's photo, not sure why.


I don't know why you are surprised I can't identify some of these guys by their photos.  I can pick Thomas's work out of a lineup, but he hasn't been able to stand in one in a long time.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Kevin_Reilly on November 30, 2019, 04:37:00 PM
12. Todd Eckenrode
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Mike Nuzzo on November 30, 2019, 04:53:52 PM
#3 isn't Joe Finger




(http://fdsgolf.com/images/joe-finger-large.jpg)

Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: mike_malone on November 30, 2019, 05:04:13 PM
Well I know G!
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Doug Bolls on November 30, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
I think #3 is Billy Casper - love the symbolism of the hat.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Derek_Duncan on November 30, 2019, 10:19:54 PM
Quote from: Doug Bolls on November 30, 2019, 10:10:54 PM
I think #3 is Billy Casper - love the symbolism of the hat.


You're right, it's Billy Casper (I Google imaged him). But why is he included in an architect thread? -- I'm not aware of him designing golf courses, at least not on any meaningful level.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Kyle Harris on December 01, 2019, 05:13:28 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 02:50:31 PM
Quote from: Kyle Harris on November 30, 2019, 12:39:41 PM
G: William Flynn
W: GEORGE THOMAS


I actually did recognize Flynn's photo, not sure why.


I don't know why you are surprised I can't identify some of these guys by their photos.  I can pick Thomas's work out of a lineup, but he hasn't been able to stand in one in a long time.


I think it's one of the two photos of Thomas I've seen. It is certainly the most published. You have the most photographic memory I know so that does come as a bit of a shock!


The other photo, coincidentally, is him standing in something of a lineup!
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Thomas Dai on December 01, 2019, 05:37:26 AM
An addition for posterity (now coloured).
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKseCnGX0AAM8xp.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKseCnGWwAMcV1f.jpg)
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Jeff Schley on December 01, 2019, 12:03:16 PM
I have the responses so far MISSING J, P, U, Z as well as #4, #9, #10 and #15-#18 from the BONUS!
Answers here:
AJan Bel Jan
BBobby Weed
CJeff Brauer
DA.W. Tillinghast
ESteve Smyers
FPerry Maxwell
GWilliam Flynn
HKyle Phillips
IRobert Trent Jones (English/American)
JDevereux  Emmett
KTom Doak
LMichael Hurdzan
MSeth Raynor
NWililam P. Bell
OBill Coore
PGeorge Crump
QAlice Dye
RMike Stranz
STom Fazio
TRobert Trent Jones Jr.
UCharles Blair McDonald
VGil Hanse
WGeorge C Thomas
XWalter Travis
YBrian Curley
ZPete Dye
BONUS
1
Andy Staples
2
Mike Devries
3
Billy Casper
4
Forest Fezler
5
Jay Moorish
6
Arthur Hills
7
Forest Richardson
8
Tom Wieskopf
9
Henry Fownes
10
Hugh Wilson
11
Robert Von Hagge
12
Todd Eckenrode
13
Jim Engh
14
The Donald
15
Da Mike Keiser
16
A famious poster on GCA
17
The fearless leader
18
Jack Neville
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Tom_Doak on December 01, 2019, 12:14:40 PM
Quote from: Derek_Duncan on November 30, 2019, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on November 30, 2019, 10:25:17 AM
Derek:  Are you sure about #4?  John was my housemate for several months and I did not recognize him in this photo.  (Of course, we were only 23 or 24 back then.)


I can't be 100% positive. I was going by first impressions.


Thank goodness!  It was Forrest Fezler, not John Harbottle.  I'd have had guilt for days if I'd forgotten what John looked like.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: Duncan Cheslett on December 01, 2019, 03:03:32 PM
I got "A" right - Jan Bel Jan - and then got stuck!


I played with Jan and Mark Hollinger at Alwoodley a few years ago and she was lovely.
Title: Re: Visually identifying American GCA's
Post by: V_Halyard on December 01, 2019, 03:42:16 PM
Haha
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