1 | 1 Pine Valley |
2 | 2 Cypress Point Club |
3 | 4 Shinnecock Hills Golf Club |
4 | 5 National Golf Links of America |
5 | 8 Oakmont Country Club |
6 | 9 Augusta National Golf Club |
7 | 11 Pebble Beach Golf Links |
8 | 14 Sand Hills Golf Club |
9 | 15 Merion Golf Club |
10 | 16 Pinehurst Country Club |
11 | 18 Fishers Island Club |
12 | 19 Chicago Golf Club |
13 | 20 Los Angeles Country Club |
14 | 23 Winged Foot Golf Club |
15 | 24 Pacific Dunes |
16 | 25 Crystal Downs Country Club |
17 | 26 Friar's Head |
18 | 28 Riviera Country Club |
19 | 30 San Francisco Golf Club |
20 | 31 Prairie Dunes Country Club |
21 | 34 Seminole Golf Club |
22 | 38 The Country Club |
23 | 42 Somerset Hills Country Club |
24 | 45 Shoreacres |
25 | 47 Garden City Golf Club |
26 | 49 Southern Hills Country Club |
27 | 50 California Golf Club of San Francisco |
28 | 52 Camargo Club |
29 | 53 Bethpage Black |
30 | 57 Ballyneal |
31 | 58 Kiawah Island (Ocean) |
32 | 62 Winged Foot (East) |
33 | 64 Maidstone Club |
34 | 68 TPC Sawgrass |
35 | 69 Whistling Straits |
36 | 72 Oakland Hills Country Club |
37 | 74 Quaker Ridge Golf Club |
38 | 76 Sleepy Hollow Country Club |
39 | 79 Olympic Club |
40 | 80 Bandon Dunes |
41 | 81 Inverness Club |
42 | 83 Course At Yale |
43 | 84 The Golf Club (OH) |
44 | 85 Muirfield Village Golf Club |
45 | 87 Bandon Trails |
46 | 91 Peachtree Golf Club |
47 | 92 Myopia Hunt Club |
48 | 98 Ohoopee Match Club |
49 | 99 Rock Creek Cattle Company |
50-100 | Baltusrol (Lower) |
50-100 | Baltusrol (Upper) |
50-100 | Bandon (Old Macdonald) |
50-100 | Bel-Air |
50-100 | Congaree |
50-100 | Eastwood Ho! |
50-100 | Essex County Club |
50-100 | Harbour Town |
50-100 | Kittansett Club |
50-100 | Lawsonia (Links) |
50-100 | Mid Ocean |
50-100 | Monterey Peninsula (Shores) |
50-100 | Moraine |
50-100 | Oak Hill (East) |
50-100 | Old Sandwich |
50-100 | Old Town Club |
50-100 | Pasatiempo |
50-100 | Pikewood National |
50-100 | Piping Rock |
50-100 | Plainfield Country |
50-100 | Ridgewood CC (West/East) |
50-100 | Sand Valley |
50-100 | Spyglass Hill |
50-100 | Streamsong (Red) |
50-100 | The Creek Club |
50-100 | Valley Club of Montecito |
50-100 | Wade Hampton |
50-100 | White Bear Yacht Club |
50-100 | Wolf Point |
50-100 | Yeamans Hall |
Mid Ocean probably won't make the cut.
Just got the magazine. I find it hard to believe that Sebonack is not one of the top 150 courses.
26 | Shadow Creek |
28 | Honors Course |
31 | Alotian |
32 | Gozzer Ranch |
39 | Sebonack |
42 | Erin Hills |
43 | Victoria National |
47 | Butler National |
48 | Castle Pines |
53 | Medinah #3 |
54 | Whispering Pines |
57 | Scioto |
58 | Interlachen |
60 | Oak Tree National |
62 | Canyata |
64 | Pete Dye GC |
65 | Dallas National |
66 | Kinloch |
68 | Arcadia Bluffs |
70 | Estancia |
72 | Cherry Hills |
74 | Milwaukee CC |
75 | Olympia Fields North |
77 | Quarry at LaQuinta |
79 | Monterey Peninsula Dunes |
80 | Congressional |
81 | Hudson National |
83 | Calusa Pines |
84 | Vallhalla |
85 | Aronimink |
87 | Boston GC |
90 | Diamond Creek |
91 | Club at Black Rock |
92 | Double Eagle |
93 | Spring Hill |
94 | Rich Harvest Farms |
96 | Preserve GC |
97 | Blackworld Run |
99 | Crooked Stick GC |
100 | Mayacama |
N/R | Chambers Bay |
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Compared the Golf Mag World Golf top 100/next 50 to the last Golf Digest US Top 100. Surprisingly (or not) there are 41 courses that are ranked by GD, but don't show up on the GM world top 100/next 50.
51 | Medinah – No 3 |
61 | Shadow Creek |
64 | Streamsong – Blue |
68 | Nanea |
70 | East Lake |
71 | Newport CC |
72 | Baltimore CC – Five Farms |
73 | Cherry Hills |
74 | Erin Hills |
75 | Interlachen |
76 | Sebonack |
77 | Congressional – Blue |
78 | The Honors |
79 | Scioto |
81 | Fox Chapel |
84 | Milwaukee CC |
86 | Philadelphia Cricket Club |
87 | Torrey Pines – South |
88 | Boston GC |
91 | Calusa Pines |
92 | Colonial CC – Fort Worth |
93 | Hazeltine National |
94 | Monterey Peninsula CC – Dunes |
95 | Gozzer Ranch |
97 | Aronimink |
98 | Chambers Bay |
99 | Mountain Lake |
100 | Blackwolf Run – River |
no Wade Hampton anywhere :o
no Wade Hampton anywhere :o
thanks for compiling all those lists
I have always wondered about how some courses make the list.
"Barely a year old, Ohoopee was seen by enough panelists and scored high enough to hit the current rank at No. 98."
Perhaps in the fine print there is an explanation of "seen by enough." I wonder if 5 of the panelists put the course on their list and thus it made #98. If that were the case, I am disappointed.
On the Golf.com podcast with Ran today he said "sixty days"
For all you or I know, Ohoopee was in the top 25 of six members, which was just high enough for it to sneak on at 98, and it may move up and up and up the list over the coming years as more raters are able to see the course.
This is an educated guess, though, and I'll seek verification and will get back to you with the response(s) I get if they shed new light on what I've written.
Per the last paragraph… am I close? What corrections would you make to what I wrote?
P.S. I'm not saying Ohoopee will rise to be in the top 25, only that its current ranking might actually be lower because it wasn't seen by too many people, and it may rise as more people continue to rate it if they rate it highly.
For all you or I know, Ohoopee was in the top 25 of six members, which was just high enough for it to sneak on at 98, and it may move up and up and up the list over the coming years as more raters are able to see the course.
This is an educated guess, though, and I'll seek verification and will get back to you with the response(s) I get if they shed new light on what I've written.
Per the last paragraph… am I close? What corrections would you make to what I wrote?
P.S. I'm not saying Ohoopee will rise to be in the top 25, only that its current ranking might actually be lower because it wasn't seen by too many people, and it may rise as more people continue to rate it if they rate it highly.
Erik:
When I ran the list many years ago, I did something like that. We didn't have as many panelists back then who were chomping at the bit to see every new or out-of-the-way course and quite a few courses were stuck on six or eight votes; there was also one course that was in the list on exactly ten votes, but then one of its supporters died!
My solution was to do the same thing they do in baseball for a guy who just falls short of enough PA to qualify for the batting title - calculate his average if he had come up a few more times without any hits.
It worked well. A course had to have six or seven strong supporters to squeak into the top 100 with three "zero" votes. It only happened a couple of times IIRC, and in those cases the course was ranked even higher the next time once more panelists had seen it.
With more panelists now, I don't believe they do this anymore, and ten votes means ten votes. The former editor of the list mentioned in his writeup a couple of years ago that he had flown to Thailand (expenses paid) to make sure a course had ten votes so it would be eligible for the list - and that's one reason he's not in charge anymore. But there is still a bit too much of "pre-selection " going on, where the editors or fellow panelists make sure at least ten panelists see certain new candidates, which is kind of like winking at them that they ought to vote favorably.
But there is still a bit too much of "pre-selection " going on, where the editors or fellow panelists make sure at least ten panelists see certain new candidates, which is kind of like winking at them that they ought to vote favorably.
Tom, your statement about "pre-selection" is an interesting one. I can recall being urged by multiple people to go see the likes of Ballyneal, Sebonack, Dismal Red, and Streamsong Blue, with the latter two for an eventual ratings vote. Apparently "winking" is not in the eye of the beholder?
But there is still a bit too much of "pre-selection " going on, where the editors or fellow panelists make sure at least ten panelists see certain new candidates, which is kind of like winking at them that they ought to vote favorably.
Tom, your statement about "pre-selection" is an interesting one. I can recall being urged by multiple people to go see the likes of Ballyneal, Sebonack, Dismal Red, and Streamsong Blue, with the latter two for an eventual ratings vote. Apparently "winking" is not in the eye of the beholder?
Steve:
It happens with three or four "strong candidates" every year, some of which have been my courses. [Paul Rudovsky has tried to systematize it in a thread here.] It really shouldn't happen, within the official ranking process at least. Surely, every architect will be out there promoting their own work, but the select few should not have an inside track over the others -- myself included.
I don't believe that you heard from me trying to get you to go vote on any of those courses. One reason my courses do get attention is because I have always resisted over-selling them; so people believe me if I tell them St. Patrick's is worth seeing, and I don't have to tell them whether they ought to rate it highly. :D