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Title: What’s under the soil?
Post by: Thomas Dai on April 19, 2019, 12:13:34 PM

There’ve been a couple of comments recently about burial areas under parts of the course at TOC and ANGC. Shinnecock is another that’s been mentioned in a similar context. Cruden Bay too.


What would be examples of other things, ie not just in relation to burial areas, that have been uncovered during construction or maintenance work, maybe even ultimately involving archiologists or metal detector users?


Atb

Title: Re: What’s under the soil?
Post by: archie_struthers on April 19, 2019, 02:09:44 PM

 ::) :-[




Sorry Thomas tried to respond but was multitasking and erred

Title: Re: What’s under the soil?
Post by: Adam Lawrence on April 19, 2019, 04:18:53 PM

Herbert Fowler wrote that they drained the bunkers at Walton Heath by sinking shafts from the bunker floor, down through the clay layer, until the reached the underlying chalk. They then filled the shafts with 'old pots and pans' to ensure they did not clog up. So presumably under a bunch of WH bunkers there are still a load of pieces of Victorian cookware.

Title: Re: What’s under the soil?
Post by: Kevin Neary on April 19, 2019, 07:03:36 PM

There’s a Revolutionary War cemetery on Rockaway River to the left of the first hole and in between the eight green and ninth tee.

Title: Re: What’s under the soil?
Post by: Tom_Doak on April 19, 2019, 08:11:05 PM

The ridges across the 17th hole at The Renaissance Club are just soil cover on top of ancient stone walls which were excavated by archaeologists during the construction of the course . . . they also found some dwellings to the right of the hole. 


For a time, I wasn't sure if they were going to complete their excavations and let us cover over the ruins by the time the hole had to be seeded.  I started to look around for a replacement hole, and found what is now the 15th of the redesigned course.  But it would have been a very awkward walk from 16 green to 18 tee if we'd had to use that hole in place of the 17th.


P.S.  I am sure there was much more to be found underneath some other holes in that area, but we only had to have them checked out by the archaeologists if we were proposing cuts into the soil, so we avoided doing that on some of the other holes.

Title: Re: What’s under the soil?
Post by: jeffwarne on April 19, 2019, 08:32:51 PM

I played a course near Augusta last week-Pine Ridge. enjoyable course(I had last played it in the late 80's),it  had a bit of an English Heathland couse with the Pines and some pretty good vegetation from an old farm, orchard and plantings over the years.
On one of the holes they had done some excavation and I found multiple vintage mid 70's balls-a club special, orange wilson pro staff, red max, spalding dot, original Titleist DT with a "surlyn" cover, original Topflite
...then I found my ball.....cue the scartch record sound effect

Title: Re: What’s under the soil?
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on April 20, 2019, 03:40:33 PM

I suspect that toxic wastes lead the field.