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Title: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: David_Tepper on July 19, 2015, 02:15:53 PM
Interesting article about managing the gorse, heather and wildlife on the St. Andrews courses:

http://www.golfdigest.com/blogs/the-loop/2015/07/mother-nature-and-st-andrews-j.html
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jon Wiggett on July 19, 2015, 03:30:56 PM
I was pleased to see that they were letting a certain amount of weed ingression on the tees and fairways showing a commitment to sustainable maintainance.

Jon
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: David Lott on July 19, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
I was pleased to see that they were letting a certain amount of weed ingression on the tees and fairways showing a commitment to sustainable maintainance.

Jon


Sustaining for over 400 years isn't enough?


Maybe they should bring back the rabbits.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jon Wiggett on July 19, 2015, 03:44:43 PM
I was pleased to see that they were letting a certain amount of weed ingression on the tees and fairways showing a commitment to sustainable maintainance.

Jon


Sustaining for over 400 years isn't enough?


Maybe they should bring back the rabbits.

Sustainable as in not reliant on Herbicides, etc. Not seen any rabbits at TOC lately but there were 3 hares kicking about on Tuesday.

Jon
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Ryan Coles on July 19, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
I was pleased to see that they were letting a certain amount of weed ingression on the tees and fairways showing a commitment to sustainable maintainance.

Jon


Jon


Seemed to be an awful lot of fairy rings on the greens - What is this an indicator of?
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jeff Evagues on July 19, 2015, 06:16:33 PM
I forget which player it was but today on 15 fairway someone was in their backswing an a rabbit darted across about 20 yards ahead of him.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Marty Bonnar on July 19, 2015, 06:38:29 PM
I was pleased to see that they were letting a certain amount of weed ingression on the tees and fairways showing a commitment to sustainable maintainance.

Jon


Jon


Seemed to be an awful lot of fairy rings on the greens - What is this an indicator of?

Why, the presence of fairies of course, ya big eedjit! It's only a couple of weeks since midsummer's eve when the fairies would have been dancing their jigs on the links, making sacrifices to Nessie, invoking the ancient incantations to the goddess Uisge Beatha and generally having a braw wee hoolie.
Simple!
F.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Ryan Coles on July 19, 2015, 06:40:25 PM
You mean they aren't Dawson's fault?
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Marty Bonnar on July 19, 2015, 06:40:53 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Brent Hutto on July 19, 2015, 08:48:58 PM
I thought those rings were Po Anna, tracked in on Dustin's and Jordan's golf shoes from Chambers Bay.


I blame Mike Davis.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jon Wiggett on July 20, 2015, 05:51:53 AM
Ryan,

are the fairy rings causing any problems? I would suggest not from a playing perspective the greens appear to be putting pretty good. So what is your problem with them??????????

Jon
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Adam Lawrence on July 20, 2015, 05:58:16 AM
I didn't notice Ryan saying he had a problem, just asking what the cause was.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jon Wiggett on July 20, 2015, 06:15:40 AM
I didn't notice Ryan saying he had a problem, just asking what the cause was.

It is an indication of a certain type of fungus but so what?
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Ryan Coles on July 20, 2015, 06:45:21 AM
Was a genuine question rather than an aspersion.

We get type 1 on my course near where we put drain lines in and I therefore assumed they were related to moisture. With how wet it's been at St Andrews, this wouldn't appear to be the case.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jon Wiggett on July 20, 2015, 05:19:30 PM
Ryan,

I find it very difficult to believe that you are not fully aware as to what causes 'Fairy Rings' hence your post would appear to be a leading question. That you have them on your course is not unusual as I have yet to see a course in the UK without them. In effect, they are caused by a fungi causing an increased release of nutrients in the soil leading to a darker colouration of the grass. It can lead to the ground becoming water impervious in certain cases though these are rare and I do not believe you should be overly concerned about them.

Jon
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Tom Walsh on July 20, 2015, 05:59:12 PM
"Lighten up Francis"

I didn't notice Ryan saying he had a problem, just asking what the cause was.

It is an indication of a certain type of fungus but so what?
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Ryan Coles on July 20, 2015, 06:48:18 PM
Ryan,

I find it very difficult to believe that you are not fully aware as to what causes 'Fairy Rings' hence your post would appear to be a leading question. That you have them on your course is not unusual as I have yet to see a course in the UK without them. In effect, they are caused by a fungi causing an increased release of nutrients in the soil leading to a darker colouration of the grass. It can lead to the ground becoming water impervious in certain cases though these are rare and I do not believe you should be overly concerned about them.

Jon

Sorry Jon.

I have my moments but this isn't one of them and I'm therefore not sure why the defensive tone.

We've tended to get them following extreme heat and dryness. I noted a lot at St Andrews and know they've had neither.

Never mind.
Title: Re: Mother Nature and St. Andrews
Post by: Jon Wiggett on July 21, 2015, 03:58:54 AM
Ryan,

I find it very difficult to believe that you are not fully aware as to what causes 'Fairy Rings' hence your post would appear to be a leading question. That you have them on your course is not unusual as I have yet to see a course in the UK without them. In effect, they are caused by a fungi causing an increased release of nutrients in the soil leading to a darker colouration of the grass. It can lead to the ground becoming water impervious in certain cases though these are rare and I do not believe you should be overly concerned about them.

Jon

Sorry Jon.

I have my moments but this isn't one of them and I'm therefore not sure why the defensive tone.

We've tended to get them following extreme heat and dryness. I noted a lot at St Andrews and know they've had neither.

Never mind.

Ryan,

suppose that is the problem with the internet no way to read the tone of a post. As fairy rings are basic 1st year stuff and info is so readily available I found it somewhat surprising you would not know about them. If I have offended you then I apologise.

Your fairy rings will always be there but are maybe more noticeable as the grass browns off in droughts but they remain greener. Like I said, I don't think they are anything to worry about.

Jon