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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Patrick_Mucci on May 29, 2014, 09:31:49 AM

Title: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on May 29, 2014, 09:31:49 AM
trends that many feel have been detrimental to golf and especially golf courses.

Will the telecast of this years Open reverse that trend ?

Will "brown" become beautiful ?

Will the condition and look of # 2 initiate more favorable trends ?
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Mark Pearce on May 29, 2014, 09:34:26 AM
Given how wet the last couple of weeks have been I'd expect Hoylake to be pretty green for this year's Open.
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on May 29, 2014, 09:40:42 AM

Given how wet the last couple of weeks have been I'd expect Hoylake to be pretty green for this year's Open.


Mark,

When did they start calling Holyoke # 2

I think your knee high white socks are cutting off your circulation to your brain ;D
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Matthew Sander on May 29, 2014, 09:44:05 AM
Only time will tell Pat. I do know that after playing #2 late last summer, I can't wait to see the event on TV. It will be interesting to hear the reaction from the pros. I hope there is only minimal bellyaching regarding the somewhat random nature of the penalty of a missed fairway. I think too much complaining, even if it is in regards to that one specific element, could poison the well a bit. Personally, I love the presentation and shot variety that the native areas offer, but the pros seem to value a measure of predictability.

I think the trends you mention in your opening post are pretty hefty for one televised championship to begin to tip the scales, but they are interesting questions.
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on May 29, 2014, 09:48:38 AM
Pat,
Many moons of Open telecasts haven't made brown any more beautiful  - can't see that our Open will change much.

We'll just have to wait for more drought/climate change.  ;D
  
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: John McCarthy on May 29, 2014, 09:55:17 AM
We are sneaking up to the event.  How has the weather been in Pinehurst?  Dry, wet, normal?  Has anyone seen the course? 
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Tom Ferrell on May 29, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
I have spoken at length with Bill Coore about this issue.  In his opinion, Mike Davis of the USGA and Pinehurst have "really gone out on a limb" for this US Open.  As he notes, Pinehurst was certainly not getting any complaints regarding its previous US Open championships, and the resort was doing very well, thank you very much, with the condition and setup of the venerable No. 2.

How will the course play for the US Open?  How will the field respond?  How will TV viewers respond?  These are incredible unknowns for such a known property and championship.

Will brown become beautiful?  Who knows.  But if we are indeed in the "Minimalist Era," as mused in another thread, then this US Open is in fact its most significant popular moment.
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Dave_Miller on June 03, 2014, 03:57:29 PM
Pat Slow play
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Keith Grande on June 03, 2014, 04:10:22 PM
If history is correct, we'll just get a bunch of people saying they did a poor job of maintennance, and the course looks 'burnt out".  I think the pros would take their chances in the waste/wiregrass areas, with wide playing corrodors over last year's ribbon fairways and wrist-straining rough at Merion.
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Paul Gray on June 03, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
Mark is quite right. The Open is being held at Hoylake.

Hopefully you might however get more response to this post than I managed on the same topic, assuming you meant the US Open.  ;)
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Patrick_Mucci on June 03, 2014, 11:56:17 PM

Mark is quite right. The Open is being held at Hoylake.

Hopefully you might however get more response to this post than I managed on the same topic, assuming you meant the US Open.  ;)

Paul,

I can understand Mark Pearce's inability to read, but you ?
How did you miss the reference to " # 2" in the opening post.

Does Hoylake have another course we're unaware of ?  ;D
Title: Re: TV has often been the harbinger of
Post by: Paul Gray on June 04, 2014, 06:31:57 AM

Mark is quite right. The Open is being held at Hoylake.

Hopefully you might however get more response to this post than I managed on the same topic, assuming you meant the US Open.  ;)

Paul,

I can understand Mark Pearce's inability to read, but you ?
How did you miss the reference to " # 2" in the opening post.

Does Hoylake have another course we're unaware of ?  ;D

You asked a number of questions in your original post. There was no indication that they were related to one another.  ;D