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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Rick Sides on September 06, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
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So I have been a member of a few different clubs in my life and it seems no matter where I go,there is always one guy who lies his ass off regarding his playing abilities. The guy at the club I currently play is a man in his late 40's who tries to emulate Rickie Fowler and Ian Poulter's wardrobe. He likes to tell people he shoots in low 70's,but when I got a chance to play a few holes behind him the other day, I watched him fire balls all over the course, tacking his way in and out of different biomes. When he got off course over heard him tell another guy he shot 73. Anyone else have these delusion characters at his/her club?
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Rick-If he is a gambler you can turn a guy like that into an annuity.
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How right you are Tim!
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Quick ways to lower your handicap:
1. Lessons with a qualified pro.
2. Practice, practice, practice.
3. Concentrate on every shot.
4. Have an eraser on your pencil and a fluid sense of what actually happened in that bunker.
5. New rule: No 3 putts!
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That guy doesn't bother me because he's easy money, the guy I hate is turn in 90 every round and then fire 77 in tournament rounds.
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I like the guy that has played everywhere when it comes up. We have one guy that plays Seminole when he goes to Port St Lucie and Merion when he goes to Pittsburgh. And still has a "I'd rather be driving a Titleist" sticker on his car....
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I like the guy that has played everywhere when it comes up. We have one guy that plays Seminole when he goes to Port St Lucie and Merion when he goes to Pittsburgh. And still has a "I'd rather be driving a Titleist" sticker on his car....
Or the "I'd Rather Be Golfing" license plate holder.
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Sam,
That's the guy. ;D
he's the guy that when you ask " have you played The Country Club in Boston and he replies" oh sure but which one?"
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Sam,
That's the guy. ;D
he's the guy that when you ask " have you played The Country Club in Boston and he replies" oh sure but which one?"
He also has one of those things on his bag that you put your glove it for it to keep it's shape.
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Sam,
That's the guy. ;D
he's the guy that when you ask " have you played The Country Club in Boston and he replies" oh sure but which one?"
He also has one of those things on his bag that you put your glove it for it to keep it's shape.
and he is always the guy on Golfwrx saying his swing speed is 118 mph..I hear he's from Texas...maybe Houston area...wait...
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
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Sam,
That's the guy. ;D
he's the guy that when you ask " have you played The Country Club in Boston and he replies" oh sure but which one?"
He also has one of those things on his bag that you put your glove it for it to keep it's shape.
and he is always the guy on Golfwrx saying his swing speed is 118 mph..I hear he's from Texas...maybe Houston area...wait...
118, I can't count that high let alone swing that hard.
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
And they have probably touched a weiner with their golf glove on... ;D weird
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
And they have probably touched a weiner with their golf glove on... ;D weird
I don't know you that well........
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
And they have probably touched a weiner with their golf glove on... ;D weird
I don't know you that well........
good....
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We had a guy with eight holes in one, then he had his 9th on a foggy day on a hole where he hit it 40 yards off line on a treeless hole. He never had another to my knowledge.
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The Club Liar at my previous club was this big mouth idiot who use to tell people in the bar how far he could blast his drives, like 280 he said, yet i watched this guy who always played from the tips, barely get most of his drives past the women's tee!
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We have one guy that plays Seminole when he goes to Port St Lucie and Merion when he goes to Pittsburgh.
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Used to have a chap at an old club who marked his ball in a manner that appeared to make it move closer to the hole. He was once told "if you mark it again I'll concede the putt".
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There's a difference between a "vanity" handicap and a "sandbagging." A sandbagger can be dealt with at the club level by only counting his tournament scores in events. At my former club there were 2 members who played early on weekdays by themselves and, like D Cronan's example, recorded scores in the high 80s. When they won team events, one or both usually scored in the mid to high 70s. Needless to say, their handicaps were adjusted after 2 wins. Vanity handicappers need no adjustments. :)
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There's a difference between a "vanity handicap" and a "sandbagging." A sandbagger can be dealt with at the club level by only counting his tournament scores in events. At my former club there were 2 members who played early on weekdays by themselves and, like D Cronan's example, recorded scores in the high 80s. When they won team events, one ot both usually scored in the mid to high 70s. Needless to say, their handicaps were adjusted after 2 wins. Vanity handicappers need no adjustments. :)
Steve-We also refer to the "vanity" handicap as a "cocktail party" handicap. Usually quoted at least 5 strokes lower than reality. Has been known to continue to decrease at the rate of 2 strokes per cocktail ;D
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Used to have a chap at an old club who marked his ball in a manner that appeared to make it move closer to the hole. He was once told "if you mark it again I'll concede the putt".
Similar story of a guy who had a system of marking closer with a silver dollar. Great line from one of the old stalwarts was "If you mark that thing one more time you'll be in the hole"
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In the Rhodesias of old, the Club Secretary had the permission of the Club Captain to reduce the handicap of any Member who produced a score that was patently a boondoggle.
Bob
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There's a difference between a "vanity handicap" and a "sandbagging." A sandbagger can be dealt with at the club level by only counting his tournament scores in events. At my former club there were 2 members who played early on weekdays by themselves and, like D Cronan's example, recorded scores in the high 80s. When they won team events, one ot both usually scored in the mid to high 70s. Needless to say, their handicaps were adjusted after 2 wins. Vanity handicappers need no adjustments. :)
Steve-We also refer to the "vanity" handicap as a "cocktail party" handicap. Usually quoted at least 5 strokes lower than reality. Has been known to continue to decrease at the rate of 2 strokes per cocktail ;D
I prefer the term Hollywood Handicap.
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A member playing by himself with a caddie at Dunes Club ran into the clubhouse extolling his hole in one. ""Put me on the plaque," he chortled. He had a celebratory beer and left. His caddie quickly reported that it was a hole in three. Mike Keiser rescinded his membership the next day. So the Liar Member became the Ex Member. Now, that's justice.
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Lavin:
What sort of sickness creates that? The hole in 3 is, by any objective standard, a better story. Yet the need to lie to puff oneself up is strong.
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Or hubris creates nemisis, no?
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I had a hole in three on the same hole. Ball still went in the hole, but I wouldn't f'ing lie about it to see my name on the clubhouse wall. Then again, I had three aces at Olympia Fields and one at Flossmoor by then, so maybe he was more desperate for attention.
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I love Keiser's reaction. That's perfect.
We had a member at a club I belong to who was a constant brag about his prowess, especially after a few. He actually challlenged a club champion publicly in the lounge one day claiming he was a better iron player than the champ, who acted as a gentleman about the claim, realising the fool had consumed a couple of adult beverages. Well, as justice would have it the braggart drew the the champ in the first round of the club match play about two months later. I believe the match went 11 holes.
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Can't understand why they do it.
When asked if "that was a 6?", a now ex memeber always used to claim he'd birdied it, "yesterday". This was as you walked off the 410 yard, steeply uphill first hole. Sometimes he forgot himself and would repeat the claim on one of the tougher holes on the back nine.
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There's a difference between a "vanity" handicap and a "sandbagging." A sandbagger can be dealt with at the club level by only counting his . . . . Vanity handicappers need no adjustments. :)
I would suggest that vanity handicappers do need adjustments. When you get paired with them in four-ball events or on your team in other team competitions at the club, you might agree with me. I suppose you'd say, "Well, I'll just choose not to play with them." Easier said than done in a club situation.
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Nothing more annoying than the guy and his buddy who win the member guest better ball by 6 shots every year. Handicap committees without balls are unacceptable.
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I believe this discussion is pretty limited to the US. In Scotland, a sandbagger is a bandit, and everyone knows who it is, and no one will play with him. I don't understand why we put up with it here. It's lying and stealing, yet people continue to be friends with the bugger.
The USGA does not help matters by having people post match play scores. One fellow at my former club won his match 7 and 6 and proceeded to finish the round with nothing but doubles and triples.
I guess we get what we deserve.
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Hooray for Mike Keiser. And the caddie.
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i had that 'hole in 3' thing happen a while ago. if any of the MA guys have played widow's walk it was on #8 (a short par 4 that has a tee high up on a bluff. you hit over a pond to the fairway that bends right and there is another pond on that right side with a row of trees on the edge so you can't see the green -whew, breathe!-).
anyhow when i played there with a friend who lived in the area i always tried to drive the green (hole reads 310y maybe, but again all downhill and at an angle you can cut). that day i was playing well and he talked me into hitting an iron. well the iron hits a sprinkler head on the right side of the fairway and kicks dead right into the pond which we saw all the way. hilarity rules and i walk to the bag to get another ball, and change clubs. i swing the driver and the ball goes over the trees toward the hidden green.
we walk down. the other guys hit their shots and we walk up. we are looking for the ball and can't find anything. a single we grouped with goes to the hole and says, "there is something here."
yup, birdie.
he is on me "go tell the pro shop!! that is incredible! they will probably call the paper!"
no thanks. i found it embarrassing. :-[
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I like the guy that has played everywhere when it comes up. We have one guy that plays Seminole when he goes to Port St Lucie and Merion when he goes to Pittsburgh. And still has a "I'd rather be driving a Titleist" sticker on his car....
Why wouldn't he play Oakmont when in Pittsburgh?
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Sounds like by buddy Chucky. He shoots 85, says he shot 75, and acts like he shot 55. Then he wonders why a) he's useless as a teammate in a tournament and b) why he never gets invited anywhere.
He also has the annoying habit of putting exclamation po9ints on his scorecard - "73!"
I didn't know 50 and 39 added up to that...
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
My father in law has them, playing with him gives me second hand embarrassment.
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
My father in law has them, playing with him gives me second hand embarrassment.
Are we talking only about headcovers on irons? Is it o.k. to use headcovers on woods? I don't use head covers on irons, woods or putter, but just in case I do decide to use a head cover on my three wood, the only wood I carry, I want to make sure that would be o.k.
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I like the guy that has played everywhere when it comes up. We have one guy that plays Seminole when he goes to Port St Lucie and Merion when he goes to Pittsburgh. And still has a "I'd rather be driving a Titleist" sticker on his car....
Why wouldn't he play Oakmont when in Pittsburgh?
Jim, See the name of the thread for your answer...
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While we're at it, head covers on the irons...
I won't play with someone with headcovers. To me it probably means you've also never touched boobs. :D
My father in law has them, playing with him gives me second hand embarrassment.
Are we talking only about headcovers on irons? Is it o.k. to use headcovers on woods? I don't use head covers on irons, woods or putter, but just in case I do decide to use a head cover on my three wood, the only wood I carry, I want to make sure that would be o.k.
Just irons, the other clubs don't bother me one way or the other.
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I have headcovers on my irons. :-[
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I have headcovers on my irons. :-[
I'll be they look nice! ;D
I'm embarrassed to admit I never keep a cover on my driver, and my Titleist 910 D2 is looking a bit beat up.
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There was a kid I played with a lot growing up who was just blatant about shaving strokes. I'd make a 5 and he'd have 6 and on the card he would put me down for a 4 and himself for a 5.
He never made the golf team and would leave tryouts grumbling about playing bad and how he'd shot better last week etc etc. He was a good kid and honest in other facets of life. It mystified me. It didn't bother me, especially, except that his dad always expected me to be just a slightly better player than I was in reality, because he'd see all the cards his son brought home.
Maybe that was all for his Dad's vanity? I dunno.
I'm not a member at any club, but I guess it shouldn't surprise me that such people don't necessarily outgrow the behavior.
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I love Keiser's reaction. That's perfect.
We had a member at a club I belong to who was a constant brag about his prowess, especially after a few. He actually challlenged a club champion publicly in the lounge one day claiming he was a better iron player than the champ, who acted as a gentleman about the claim, realising the fool had consumed a couple of adult beverages. Well, as justice would have it the braggart drew the the champ in the first round of the club match play about two months later. I believe the match went 11 holes.
don't think justice had anything to do with the draw. Too much of a coincidence.
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Pete,
Your right, the draw was determined by order of placement in a previous stroke play competion. Delicious coincidence, though. Just result. A very popular victory at our club.
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When I was in high school, the biggest stroke shaver at the golf course was, ..., you'll never guess, ... or, maybe you will ...
the high school golf coach.