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Title: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 06, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
I'll be putting up many photos and few words on buffalogolfer.com over the course of the next days. Here is the first piece, from early this morning:

http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/walker-cup-2013-first-thoughts-and-images/
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 06, 2013, 04:22:06 PM
Here's a second one: http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/walker-cup-report-ngla-is-shapes-and-layers/
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Bill_McBride on September 06, 2013, 04:31:21 PM
Great stuff, Ron.  Thanks for taking time to post those beautiful photos.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Jeff Taylor on September 06, 2013, 04:41:03 PM
Post #2 includes some fine photographs.
Well done.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Michael Whitaker on September 06, 2013, 04:43:09 PM
I loved the team uniforms today! Check out the ties!!! Very old school.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rTQUNvUAvPk/Uio8K89i0FI/AAAAAAAAILA/BhavdONCZOs/w754-h563-no/IMAGE_389.jpeg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lV9PECt6BwM/Uio8JnJne4I/AAAAAAAAIK4/jj4tr25FeUg/w754-h563-no/IMAGE_388.jpeg)
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Joe Bausch on September 06, 2013, 05:07:01 PM
Good stuff Ron and Mike!
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Bill_McBride on September 06, 2013, 05:20:16 PM
They need a class in tying knit ties.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Michael Whitaker on September 06, 2013, 05:31:59 PM
They need a class in tying knit ties.

Some did a better job than others. Their tying skill seemed to match their age... the older the better!!!
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Thomas Dai on September 06, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
Great link showing photos of the NGLA course. Many thanks. Looks wonderful. Hope to see lots more photographs plus TV footage of the course and the shots played.

Given the inkling shown here and recent Ryder/Solheim/Walker/Curtis Cup examples can't say I'm looking forward to seeing the team clothing at all. Reckon ideal clothing for the players of both teams to wear would be Seve look-a-like red trousers coupled with shirts similar to those worn on the final day at Brookline '99 plus Hals hat from Oakland Hills '08 oh, and flip-flops. That would be just about perfect. As to the team officials, well the Ronald McDonald look would be nice (sic).

All the best.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports
Post by: Tim Martin on September 06, 2013, 05:51:33 PM
Ron-Keep the reports coming. Great photos from both links and a really nice narrative from the second. The weather across the sound in Connecticut today was a perfect ten and it appears that the East End had the same. NGLA is beyond special and probably not unlike the Crump Cup at Pine Valley the spectators are loving it. Twelve Hundred images is a lot of snapping and you have two days left. Imagine if you were using a 35 mm camera where you had to buy the film? Enjoy the event and continue to share your thoughts and photos. Thanks.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (and Saturday Pairings)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 06, 2013, 06:19:33 PM
44th Walker Cup Match

National Golf Links of America, Southampton, N.Y.

Saturday Foursomes

7:15 a.m. - Nathan Kimsey and Max Orrin - GB&I vs. Cory Whitsett and Bobby Wyatt - USA

7:30 a.m. - Matthew Fitzpatrick and Neil Raymond - GB&Ivs. Jordan Niebrugge and Nathan Smith - USA

7:45 a.m. - Garrick Porteous and Rhys Pugh - GB&I vs. Michael Weaver and Todd White - USA

8 a.m. - Gavin Moynihan and Kevin Phelan - GB&I vs. Patrick Rodgers and Justin Thomas – USA

Saturday Singles

GB&I vs. USA

1 p.m. - Neil Raymond vs. Bobby Wyatt

1:11 p.m. - Max Orrin vs. Max Homa

1:22 p.m. - Callum Shinkwin vs. Michael Kim

1:33 p.m. - Jordan Smith vs. Cory Whitsett

1:44 p.m. - Garrick Porteous vs. Jordan Niebrugge

1:55 p.m. - Matthew Fitzpatrick vs. Michael Weaver

2:06 p.m.  - Nathan Kimsey vs. Justin Thomas

2:17 p.m. - Gavin Moynihan vs. Patrick Rodgers
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (and Saturday Pairings)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 06, 2013, 06:20:52 PM
Funny story about the ties. Patrick Rodgers, who went to prep school and wore a tie for four years, remarked that many of his teammates approached him in desperation, bartering for his tie-tying skills.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (and Saturday Pairings)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 06, 2013, 06:21:55 PM
Tim, digital photography allowed me to shoot 1500 images today. You are correct. Without memory cards, I'd not be a photographer.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (and Saturday Pairings)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 06, 2013, 07:03:56 PM
One more from this evening...photos from the opening ceremony at

http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/walker-cup-report-opening-ceremony/
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (and Saturday Pairings)
Post by: Bill_McBride on September 06, 2013, 07:24:00 PM
Glad to see Nigel Edwards as GB&I captain.  He was a player on both matches I went to, Chicago 2005 and Newcastle 2007.  He's a gritty competitor. 
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 07, 2013, 08:35:40 AM
A minor number of structures at NGLA makes each a vivid recollection:

http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/walker-cup-report-structures/
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Thomas Dai on September 07, 2013, 08:49:49 AM
Ron,
Great photos. Well done. Keep 'em coming. Out of interest, what camera/zoom are you using?
The matches are on TV in the UK via Sky from 9.00pm this evening I believe.
All the best.
PS - Those red tee markers would make great paperweights. Any chance some will be on Ebay on Monday?
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 07, 2013, 09:06:05 AM
Thomas,

I am shooting with two Canon cameras. I look like the guy with the small members out here. One has a 28-105mm for close and panoramic; the other has a 75-300 for distance.

The bit of the imp that remains in me wondered how quickly the eye in the sky would nab someone attempting to pinch a tee or hole marker. I suspect that they'll go to the club, unless they are property of the USGA (which is probable.)

Thank you for the encouraging words.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 07, 2013, 09:06:36 AM
Photos from the opening foursomes at the first tee:

http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/walker-cup-report-saturday-foursomes-first-tee/
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 07, 2013, 12:23:04 PM
Photos from the final holes of the Saturday foursomes:

http://buffalogolfer.com/wordpress/walker-cup-report-saturday-foursomes/
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Tim Martin on September 07, 2013, 02:20:27 PM
I love the US team red and white uniforms. A lot to be said for bright solid colors. :)
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 07, 2013, 03:34:18 PM
Saturday singles...stationed by the first green. Not one of sixteen laid back. Every golfer went at the green.

http://wp.me/p20nYT-2el
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Seven Separate Photo Galleries)
Post by: Jim Nugent on September 07, 2013, 03:41:41 PM
I took a quick look at the scores in the singles matches.  Doesn't seem that anyone is taking the course apart.  I see plenty of bogies, and a number of scores over par at this point. 

Maybe NGLA is not too easy for many of the world's top ams? 
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (with Saturday Posts)
Post by: Thomas Dai on September 07, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
I'm just looking at old GCA photo threads about NGLA while waiting for Sky TV to commence showing some of the Walker Cup play.

On thing intrigues me about the famous par-3 Redan 4th hole. Now I'm no Redan expert nor have I ever been to NGLA so here's my query.

From the tee does the flag always look like it's on the horizon of the green, almost in the water, and if so, in my ignorance of such matters, and with no slight intended, is that coincidence or quite deliberate?

I have lifted the following photo from Bill McKinleys splendid recent photo tour of Hamptons courses to indicate what I mean. I hope that's okay with you Bill, if not I'll remove it.

All the best.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k551/bmckinley24/NGLA/DSC03161.jpg) (http://s1115.photobucket.com/user/bmckinley24/media/NGLA/DSC03161.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Seven Separate Photo Galleries)
Post by: Tim Martin on September 07, 2013, 04:25:45 PM
Fitzpatrick against Weaver in the afternoon singles on hole 12 each got in excess of 60 yards of runout on their drives. Fast and firm is ruling the day and drying out even more as the weekend wears on. Fun to watch!
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Seven Separate Photo Galleries)
Post by: Dan Herrmann on September 07, 2013, 04:34:22 PM
What an amazingly beautiful golf course.  Seeing it in HD is awe-inspiring!
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Seven Separate Photo Galleries)
Post by: ed_getka on September 07, 2013, 04:44:41 PM
What time do the shuttle buses start running in the morning? Thanks for sharing the pix.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Seven Separate Photo Galleries)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 07, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
Shuttles from the Elks Lodge begin at 5:30.

Here is the last post of the evening. Big afternoon for Team USA: http://wp.me/p20nYT-2eJ
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Eight Exclusive Photo Galleries)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 08, 2013, 07:06:29 AM
At 7:05 on Sunday, BuffaloGolfer is currently down...don't know why...have contacted server host...fingers crossed.

UPDATE: Miracle team brought site back up instantly...now I know why I pay them in currency.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Eight Exclusive Photo Galleries)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 08, 2013, 09:59:54 AM
Final report: http://wp.me/p20nYT-2f1

Checking out and heading home...safe travels to all on this day
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: David_Tepper on September 08, 2013, 10:24:39 AM
Any one know roughly what the attendance was on Saturday?
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Michael Whitaker on September 08, 2013, 05:53:45 PM
Those cardigan / shirt / tie combo outfits are beautiful!

Don't be surprised if I'm wearing one of those outfits during our next match!  8)
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Thomas Dai on September 09, 2013, 01:35:18 PM
Ron,
You've posted a splendid set of photographs here over the last few days. Some terrific ones of the players and spectators etc and some taken from angles not normally used in course photo tours but which are actually most interesting in viewing aspects of the holes etc. Well done and many thanks for sharing them.
All the best.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 09, 2013, 11:56:44 PM
Thomas
In all, i shot nearly 2500 images over the 2.5 days. If I had stayed around for the singles on Sunday, I have no doubt that I would have reached 3000 without batting an eyelash. I cannot imagine a better venue for the event.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: ed_getka on September 12, 2013, 11:30:54 PM
Ronald,
    How could you leave on Sunday before the singles? It was just too glorious of a day to be out on the course.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 13, 2013, 06:18:32 PM
Ed,

Golf is not how I make my living...I had to be back in WNY to teach and coach on Monday morning. The same thing happened at Merion in 2009. It's a price to pay for having the previous days there.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: ed_getka on September 13, 2013, 09:11:48 PM
Ronald,
   No worries. I had been hoping to meet you while I was there on Sunday, but I didn't know until the last minute that I was going to be able to come up, so I didn't get a chance to arrange a meet up spot. You took some photographs at the Merion Walker Cup that happened to have me and my son in them and I've wanted to have a chance to say hi and put a face with a name. Keep up the great work, I really enjoyed the photographs. Are you going to LACC in 2017?
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Gene Greco on September 13, 2013, 09:43:47 PM
Ron

Opening ceremony photos look like they were taken from the same vantage point as from where I was seated which was next to the vicinity of First Lady Laura Bush.

There was a photographer nearby whose face I couldn't see wearing a distinctive tartan cap just clicking away.

You or not?

        Gene
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 13, 2013, 10:49:32 PM
Ed, I'm sorry that we didn't get a chance to shake hands. I was driving an hour each way from Babylon, fighting allergies and taking deep, cleansing yoga breaths each time a marshal reminded me that cameras were not allowed/asked me how I snuck two cameras in :) I'd love to get out to LACC in 2017, but that will require some serious doing. Both Merion and NGLA were within a day's drive for me; LACCN~not so much. I remember you and your son at Merion. It was my privilege and pleasure to snap that photo (gosh, I hope that I sent it to you!)

Gene, Indeed, I wore the distinctive tartan cap. Our youngest just returned from the Fringe Festival in Edinburgh, where she and her troupe performed over the course of two weeks. She brought me the cap and I decided to wear it. My disclaimer over the course of the weekend was, "If you want to find me or avoid me, this cap should make it easy." I thought about you all weekend and the conversation/driveabout/beer that we shared at SGC in June. It qualified as my most enjoyable evening on LI, all summer long.

Here's a nice story: Saturday evening, around 8:30, I walked down 18, through the gates, to the shuttle pick-up stop. Three (legit) photographers had been waiting for 30 minutes. The shuttle drivers had shut down early, leaving them stranded. Pete Kowalski, the communications director for the USGA, drove down from the media center and took us to the Elks Lodge and our cars. He could not have been nicer. I'm not a top-shelf shooter for any name publication, yet he treats me with the same dignity as guys with greater credentials.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: ed_getka on September 14, 2013, 07:57:25 AM
Ronald,
    You did send me the pix. We'll meet up one of these days.
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: BCrosby on September 14, 2013, 09:25:58 AM
Ron -

Pete Kowalski is a great guy. Your story about him getting you guys to the parking lot is typical of Pete.

Bob
Title: Re: Walker Cup Reports (Nine are enough)
Post by: Ronald Montesano on September 14, 2013, 06:05:08 PM
Bob,

On Sunday, I had packed my bags by 10 am and was vacating the media space. I wanted to sneak out of dodge, but Pete saw me and asked/yelped "where are you packed for?" I told him about the drive I had ahead and he dropped everything he was doing to shake my hand, slap me not once but twice on the shoulder and thank me for coming. He asked if I wanted a ride down to the shuttle stop. I smiled and said "I want to walk slowly down the 18th fairway one last time. I don't know if I'll pass by again." He smiled that knowing smile, when words are unnecessary and a passionate appreciation for a course is shared.

I remembered back to when you dressed me down on GCA my first year for speaking about Pebble when I had never set foot on the course. I realized that everyone on gCa that has been to NGLA knows something that those who have not been, cannot know. Simple as that. So, thank you for the comeuppance.