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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Michael Blake on June 07, 2012, 09:31:28 AM
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Don't know if this has been posted already but,
For those of you who can't wait until the Crump Cup in Sept to see Pine Valley, you can see the course on Monday 7/23 for the Philadelphia Open. It will open it's doors to the public.
Last time the Open was there you had to purchase tickets, so I assume the same for this year.
Hopefully Chris Roselle will chime in with info.
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I am attempting to qualify on July 2nd at Bellewood. Is anyone else trying to play in?
Mark
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I am attempting to qualify on July 2nd at Bellewood. Is anyone else trying to play in?
Mark
What is the usual cut to make the event?
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I heard yesterday 600 players tried to qualify. wow
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Historically something in the low 70's is needed. Due to popular demand, I assume under 70 will be needed at most sites.
Mark
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:-[ :P :)
Mark, I'm giving it a go at Woodcrest in the qualifier. Grew up across the street and caddied there from 11 to 17 years old. Game is improving but will need all the home cooking advantage to slip into the pearly gates at PVGC for the open .
Woodcrest, a neat very very tight Flynn course in Cherry Hill , NJ if there was ever a place for TEP to make a comeback to competitive golf, a qualifier here might be the ticket!
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*sigh*
registration closed TWO DAYS AGO!!!! this is a thread i could have enjoyed last week! :)
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Over 600 players will via for the 42 qualifying positions at the four local qualifiers... Unbelievable... We are putting the final touches on the spectator policy and ticket availability. Check out www.gapgolf.org (http://www.gapgolf.org) in the coming weeks regarding information about the event...
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Over 600 players will via for the 42 qualifying positions at the four local qualifiers... Unbelievable... We are putting the final touches on the spectator policy and ticket availability. Check out www.gapgolf.org (http://www.gapgolf.org) in the coming weeks regarding information about the event...
I hear GCA/GAP guys get the best volunteer positions?? I do not want port o potty checker !!!!
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Over 600 players will via for the 42 qualifying positions at the four local qualifiers... Unbelievable... We are putting the final touches on the spectator policy and ticket availability. Check out www.gapgolf.org (http://www.gapgolf.org) in the coming weeks regarding information about the event...
I hear GCA/GAP guys get the best volunteer positions?? I do not want port o potty checker !!!!
Doug B., I hope you will have a better job than that!
Mark
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Mark, if you qualify for the tourney, I'll caddy for you at PV. Or I know a good caddy out in Lancaster. ;)
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Here is what you all have been asking about...Any questions let me know...should be a great day...setting up the course over the weekend before the event...let's hope we have some decent weather
http://www.gapgolf.org/charts.asp?sfile=static/archive/2012_philadelphia_open_championship_spectator_info.html (http://www.gapgolf.org/charts.asp?sfile=static/archive/2012_philadelphia_open_championship_spectator_info.html)
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Over 600 players will via for the 42 qualifying positions at the four local qualifiers... Unbelievable... We are putting the final touches on the spectator policy and ticket availability. Check out www.gapgolf.org (http://www.gapgolf.org) in the coming weeks regarding information about the event...
I hear GCA/GAP guys get the best volunteer positions?? I do not want port o potty checker !!!!
Doug B., I hope you will have a better job than that!
Mark
Don't give Roselle any ideas, please...
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Mark, if you qualify for the tourney, I'll caddy for you at PV. Or I know a good caddy out in Lancaster. ;)
Joe, I believe players will only be allowed to take Pine Valley GC caddies...
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I went to the Philly Open the last time it was at PV. What an amazing day! Highly recommended!
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I'll be playing in case anyone would like to watch a GCA'er other than McKeever give it a go! Roselle don't screw me with the pairings!
No promises that I'll break 80 though :)
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Brian, any pairing complaints are directed towards Mr. Martin. He does all the dirty work. I could see you out early because you don't waste any time.
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Brian, any pairing complaints are directed towards Mr. Martin. He does all the dirty work. I could see you out early because you don't waste any time.
As long as my pairing is at PV and not Trump Philly across the street I'll be happy!
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Brian,
Perhaps being paired with someone from the ACE club would work out? :)
Mark
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Any ideas as to what time the first group goes out Chris??
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It will be interesting to see how the course is set-up.
Will it be reasonable or over the top ?
Will Mother Nature co-operate ?
July 23rd can be a very difficult time, weather wise.
It will be interesting to observe club selection and how certain holes will be played by high caliber golfers, especially in light of modern day distance.
Holes # 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 11, 12, 13 and 15 would be of the greatest interest to me.
It would be great if there was a statistical analysis regarding clubs hit on each hole and scoring.
If the weather co-operates it should be a terrific event and PV should be commended for hosting the tournament.
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Any ideas as to what time the first group goes out Chris??
Ed, the first groups will tee off #1 & #9 starting at 7am.
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It will be interesting to see how the course is set-up.
Will it be reasonable or over the top ?
Will Mother Nature co-operate ?
July 23rd can be a very difficult time, weather wise.
It will be interesting to observe club selection and how certain holes will be played by high caliber golfers, especially in light of modern day distance.
Holes # 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 11, 12, 13 and 15 would be of the greatest interest to me.
It would be great if there was a statistical analysis regarding clubs hit on each hole and scoring.
If the weather co-operates it should be a terrific event and PV should be commended for hosting the tournament.
Patrick, if the weather cooperates I'm sure PV will play like it always,fair but a true test of all that is required out of a top notch amateur or pro. The last time we were there I believe 4 over was the winning score over 36 holes (we had a playoff between John Applegate and John DiMarco). Course setup will be dictated by the weather we get and the wind. You'll be able to see course stats on our website.
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Chris,
That's great
It would be great if "shot link" type info could be available.
I'll be playing there right before the event and will get to experience the conditions for myself
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Chris,
That's great
It would be great if "shot link" type info could be available.
I'll be playing there right before the event and will get to experience the conditions for myself
I am playing it the day before and then we set it up the afternoon. We already have a good idea what we are going to do but the round on Sunday will be confirmation.
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Chris,
I'm curious as to how the better golfers will play a number of holes, such as # 1, 2, 6, 8, 12 and 15.
How differently do you think # 12 will play from the left and right tee ?
How many will try to drive the green on # 6 and # 12 ?
How will they play their second shots on # 15 ?
It should make for interesting observations.
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Chris,
I'm curious as to how the better golfers will play a number of holes, such as # 1, 2, 6, 8, 12 and 15.
How differently do you think # 12 will play from the left and right tee ?
How many will try to drive the green on # 6 and # 12 ?
How will they play their second shots on # 15 ?
It should make for interesting observations.
Pat, I don't think anyone will try to drive #6. #12 might be a different story depending on how firm it is and what we decide to do with the tee. The players that have played #15 numerous times will have a huge advantage on #15.
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Chris,
You should take a volunteer or two over with you, maybe a course rater too? I am sure you and Kirby need playing companions.
Ed, I am free that day,B
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The final cuts at the four qualifying sites were 1 or 2 over. Does anyone think a player will shoot under par for their two rounds at PV?
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Shi$,
I couldnt cut it unfortunately. An early penalty assessment on the first hole of the qualifier was brutal.
To answer your question, I think Colbert could do it.
Mark
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John,
I think that's largely dependent upon the firmness and speed of the greens.
Tee to green, I think many in the field are capable of a sub-par performance.
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John,
I think that's largely dependent upon the firmness and speed of the greens.
Tee to green, I think many in the field are capable of a sub-par performance.
In 2002 before I started with GAP, both John Appleget and John DiMarco shot 144 over two rounds to tie for first. In the ensuing 18 hole playoff the following day Mr. Appleget was victorious shooting 72 to Mr. DiMarco 76. I heard the greens were quick that day but not as firm as they probably could have been. In 1946 Earl Johnson shot 146 over two rounds but who knows how the course played back then.
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Chris,
To the competitor familiar with the course, I think there's a comfort factor with regard to fairway width.
There are holes where the view from the tee, to the inexperienced competitor, is intimidating.
Knowing where to miss can be a critical factor, but again, that favors the competitor familiar with the course.
Could you let us know, of the previous winners, when the GAP Open was held at PV, how many were seeing PV for the first time ?
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Chris,
To the competitor familiar with the course, I think there's a comfort factor with regard to fairway width.
There are holes where the view from the tee, to the inexperienced competitor, is intimidating.
Knowing where to miss can be a critical factor, but again, that favors the competitor familiar with the course.
Could you let us know, of the previous winners, when the GAP Open was held at PV, how many were seeing PV for the first time ?
Pat, in the 109 year history of the event it has only been held there three times and I don't know anything about the 1941 or 1923. A litttle before my time. I would only be assuming that in 2002 both players who finished 36 holes tied had played there before because they are both NJ professionals but that would only be an assumption on my part. I remember Chris Lange having a great chance to win that year and he has been around the course a few more times than once.