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Title: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 25, 2011, 01:47:17 PM: Gentlemen,

Who wants to go to Nebraska this summer and play some golf? With a lot of help from my friends, I've arranged a 3 day outing at Dismal River Golf Club and you're invited.

Sequestered at the dead end of a 17-mile one lane road out in Mullen, Dismal River would likely be at or near the top of the short list of Secret Service approved undisclosed locations for former Vice President Dick Cheney. It does take some effort to get here!

Being out in the middle of nowhere definitely has its advantages. I don't know that you'll ever see a bigger, more awe inspiring sky than what you'll find out in the sand hills. The daytime sky along with it's infinite cloud cover is awesome, no question, but the star gazer in me can't get enough of the limitless night sky above, especially while enjoying time spent around the firepit out back.

Right now, we have 17 commitments for July and have 32 beds booked so there's room for 15 more.

It's a two man event, so feel free to bring a friend or pair up with another GCAer, the more the merrier. If you'd like more information, re: costs, itinerary, etc., go to www.5thmajor.com where you'll find all you need to know.

I hope you'll make it out. I think it's a pretty special place and look forward to sharing the opportunity to experience it with more GCAers.

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/GCA/0378cee8.jpg?t=1301075194)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Peter_Herreid on March 25, 2011, 06:40:29 PM: Eric--

While I will be unable to attend, I wanted to thank you for this most generous offer to the GCA crowd, and hope that folks are able to venture out and experience DR. What a great way to celebrate a long weekend.

Thanks again for your generosity!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on March 25, 2011, 06:51:40 PM: Eric,
I can't tell you how excited I am to attend. I'm actually driving out from Philly and making a cool adventure out of it. It'll be a great time for all!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 25, 2011, 07:40:48 PM: Thanks, Peter. It's the least I can do as I've been on the receiving end of plenty of others generosity through this website. I hope you'll make it another time!

Dan,

I can't wait myself! Really glad you guys are coming.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mac Plumart on March 25, 2011, 07:48:56 PM: Look at that photo Eric posted. That is the natural landscape of the area. Do you see any golf holes right there in that photo? One or two, maybe? Amazing!!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 07:53:09 PM: Thanks again for the invite, Eric. This sounds awesome, and I'm definitely interested in playing. If anyone is looking for a better-ball partner, let me know.

Any plans by GCAers to venture to other area courses (Wild Horse, etc.) while out there?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 25, 2011, 08:09:18 PM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Thanks again for the invite, Eric. This sounds awesome, and I'm definitely interested in playing. If anyone is looking for a better-ball partner, let me know.

Any plans by GCAers to venture to other area courses (Wild Horse, etc.) while out there?

Can you carry me JNC?! How long is Dismal? ;)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 08:12:10 PM: Joe,

My game can only get better from rock bottom, so if you can keep your number at 10 we'll team up!

If you don't want to play, Spaulding can play out your holes.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 25, 2011, 08:18:38 PM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 08:12:10 PM
Joe,

My game can only get better from rock bottom, so if you can keep your number at 10 we'll team up!

If you don't want to play, Spaulding can play out your holes.

What about my asthma?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mac Plumart on March 25, 2011, 08:20:07 PM: Dude...we will get you the high speed golf carts that Dismal have, if you are having an asthma attack, and you'll be all good.

Anyone have a photo of those bad boys?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 08:21:09 PM: You can always play tennis.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mark Saltzman on March 25, 2011, 08:25:13 PM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Thanks again for the invite, Eric. This sounds awesome, and I'm definitely interested in playing. If anyone is looking for a better-ball partner, let me know.

Any plans by GCAers to venture to other area courses (Wild Horse, etc.) while out there?

JNC,

I'm not 100% on my schedule, but I am certainly looking to travel before/after the 5th Major. Heading to Ballyneal for a few days for sure, then would like to visit Wild Horse, Prairie Club, maybe a few in Denver area, SHGC (maybe, hopefully), Awarii Dunes (if possible)...who knows. You have any thoughts?

Mark
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Joe Bausch on March 25, 2011, 08:27:13 PM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 08:21:09 PM
You can always play tennis.

(http://halftimeadjustment.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/caddyshack-l5.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 08:31:53 PM: Quote from: Mark Saltzman on March 25, 2011, 08:25:13 PM
Quote from: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
Thanks again for the invite, Eric. This sounds awesome, and I'm definitely interested in playing. If anyone is looking for a better-ball partner, let me know.

Any plans by GCAers to venture to other area courses (Wild Horse, etc.) while out there?

JNC,

I'm not 100% on my schedule, but I am certainly looking to travel before/after the 5th Major. Heading to Ballyneal for a few days for sure, then would like to visit Wild Horse, Prairie Club, maybe a few in Denver area, SHGC (maybe, hopefully), Awarii Dunes (if possible)...who knows. You have any thoughts?

Mark

Wild Horse and Bayside at the very least. Prairie Club and Sand Hills (best case scenario) would also be cool. I'm guessing other GCAers out there will want to venture to these places during the trip as well.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tim Martin on March 25, 2011, 08:37:04 PM: Quote from: Joe Bausch on March 25, 2011, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 08:21:09 PM
You can always play tennis.

(http://halftimeadjustment.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/caddyshack-l5.jpg)

Has anyone ever looked better in a bucket hat? ;)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Anthony Gray on March 25, 2011, 08:46:41 PM: Eric,

I recieved my appearance fee yesterday.Count me in.

Anthony
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 25, 2011, 09:31:32 PM: John and Joe, pair up and get your tails to Nebraska. We'll celebrate your graduation, John and we'd be honored to have one of those incredible in depth photo tours done by the Joe Bausch Mobile Production Studio. :)

I hope you guys can make it out!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 25, 2011, 09:33:16 PM: Quote from: Anthony Gray on March 25, 2011, 08:46:41 PM

Eric,

I recieved my appearance fee yesterday.Count me in.

Anthony

Anton~

I need my caddy!

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/HARBOURTOWNFEB202010058.jpg?t=1301102379)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Jeff Shelman on March 25, 2011, 10:06:46 PM: Wish I could. I, however, will be out of town.

Bummer.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on March 25, 2011, 10:23:52 PM: JNC - That's why we're driving out - TONS of great prairie golf!

Cool other activities too - the Fort Niobrara NWR looks pretty awesome up near Valentine. Elk, bison, prairie dogs... Scottsbluff has the Oregon Trail and Scotts Bluff.

There's Bayside GC, Awarii dunes, and Wildhorse. Prairie Dunes too...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Nebraska_Sandhills_NE97_Hooker_County_3.JPG)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on March 25, 2011, 11:16:57 PM: Wow, these pictures look pretty solid in the (still) frigid cold of March in New York. I think you folks need to realize: I've never been West of the Mississippi, so this is going to be an unbelievable experience, no matter what I end up playing or seeing. Dan, thanks for all the recommendations on golf and non-golf activities. How close is Prairie Dunes to Mullen?

Eric, I am DEFINITELY IN for the 5th Major. Bausch might be harder to convince, he only plays executive courses.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on March 26, 2011, 08:34:52 AM: JNC - It's about 100 miles or so. Obviously, traffic won't be a problem!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mac Plumart on March 26, 2011, 08:36:26 AM: Please ensure y'all are on the same page...Prairie Dunes or The Prairie Club. The "Club" is pretty close (relatively speaking). I know people who've made the "Dunes" trek and it is a bit of a drive.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tim Martin on March 26, 2011, 08:39:48 AM: Quote from: Dan Herrmann on March 25, 2011, 10:23:52 PM
JNC - That's why we're driving out - TONS of great prairie golf!

Cool other activities too - the Fort Niobrara NWR looks pretty awesome up near Valentine. Elk, bison, prairie dogs... Scottsbluff has the Oregon Trail and Scotts Bluff.

There's Bayside GC, Awarii dunes, and Wildhorse. Prairie Dunes too...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Nebraska_Sandhills_NE97_Hooker_County_3.JPG)

Dan-Now that`s what I call a road trip. I`m not sure about the the elk and bison but I think it`s off season for hunting prairie dogs. ;)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Jim Tang on March 26, 2011, 08:44:35 AM: Eric -

What a generous offer! Dismal River is a place I've been meaning to see, but, unfortunatley, the dates won't work for me. Hope the event is great.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on March 26, 2011, 09:10:29 AM: Prairie Dunes in Hutchinson Kansas is almost a must see on the drive out. That way you can see the progression of Prairie links from it's inception.

I'd recommend hooking up with a member though, as their unaccompanied rate is a bit distracting.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Jerry Kluger on March 26, 2011, 05:57:34 PM: Eric: I may be in the area around that time - is it okay to come over one day and play a round with the guys?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 27, 2011, 09:18:51 AM: John,

Great to have you coming out to play in the major. See you on deck, Senator!

Jim,

Thanks. Lemme know when you're headed out that way...I'll be there in early August as well. Maybe we can meet up then.

Jerry,

Absolutely, come on over for the day...look forward to seeing you in July.

Another note: the two man event doesn't preclude individuals signing up to play. We'll pair any singles (you're going to be playing together anyway) and it'll be a fun weekend with a bit of a member guest flavor with the 9 hole matches on Saturday. Everyone will have the opportunity to play with many different GCAers, which is always a ++ in my book.

Judging from the activity both Mac and I have been seeing, this outing turns out to be perfect timing for many of you as well. We're about 100 days out, so you still have time to sort your summer schedules and see about making the trek out here. Thanks again for your interest!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on March 27, 2011, 09:24:12 AM: I can't wait! This could become an annual event, and we can do good through golf.

We took the covers off the greens this week. Won't be long!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 27, 2011, 09:52:23 AM: Chris, you keeping Chef busy already? ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on March 27, 2011, 03:04:17 PM: FWIW, I'm also planning on playing Wildhorse, Bayside, and Awarii Dunes and hopefully some others too. I may head north into SD afterward to see the Badlands.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tim Martin on March 27, 2011, 03:37:29 PM: J Kav-Is the Dismal Devil making a guest appearance? Did he square up with his bookie yet?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on March 27, 2011, 07:16:10 PM: Eric:

The Chef has been busy. Will be busy July 4th too!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Matt Bosela on March 27, 2011, 09:33:05 PM: What a great event you have planned Eric!

You're very kind to extend this invitation to all of us and I only wish I had enough spare time to attend this July. Perhaps next year - I'm still holding you to that drink you owe me! ;)

Have a great time...the course looks like a heck of a lot of fun.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on March 28, 2011, 01:46:35 AM: Quote from: Matt Bosela on March 27, 2011, 09:33:05 PM
What a great event you have planned Eric!

You're very kind to extend this invitation to all of us and I only wish I had enough spare time to attend this July. Perhaps next year - I'm still holding you to that drink you owe me! ;)

Have a great time...the course looks like a heck of a lot of fun.

Matt,

Thanks. Knowing how many flights you had to take to get to and from Bandon recently, I wouldn't want you to have to go through a similar Planes, Trains and Automobiles scenario in the same calendar year! You know I'd love to have you out and the invitation will certainly carry over until you do decide to make the journey.

Re: that beer I owe you, is there compounding interest on that sucker? If not, there should be! We'll get around to sharing one or a few in due time. Cheers,
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mark Saltzman on March 29, 2011, 06:11:53 PM: Quote from: Mac Plumart on March 26, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
Please ensure y'all are on the same page...Prairie Dunes or The Prairie Club. The "Club" is pretty close (relatively speaking). I know people who've made the "Dunes" trek and it is a bit of a drive.

Google Maps has the drive from Mullen to Prairie Dunes as about 400 miles and 7.5 hours. You're right, that is a trek!

It seems to me that it makes sense to fly in to Omaha and head west, ending in Denver. Anyone know anything about golf in Omaha? I looked at pictures on the Omaha CC (Maxwell design, recently restored by Keith Foster) website and it looks amazing. Anyone know anything about it?

It is getting very difficult to wait for the 5th Major, 3 months is too far away. Sitting in the snow and looking at all of these great golf courses feels damn near hell.

Mark
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: K. Krahenbuhl on March 29, 2011, 06:19:28 PM: Quote from: Mark Saltzman on March 29, 2011, 06:11:53 PM
Quote from: Mac Plumart on March 26, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
Please ensure y'all are on the same page...Prairie Dunes or The Prairie Club. The "Club" is pretty close (relatively speaking). I know people who've made the "Dunes" trek and it is a bit of a drive.

Google Maps has the drive from Mullen to Prairie Dunes as about 400 miles and 7.5 hours. You're right, that is a trek!

It seems to me that it makes sense to fly in to Omaha and head west, ending in Denver. Anyone know anything about golf in Omaha? I looked at pictures on the Omaha CC (Maxwell design, recently restored by Keith Foster) website and it looks amazing. Anyone know anything about it?

It is getting very difficult to wait for the 5th Major, 3 months is too far away. Sitting in the snow and looking at all of these great golf courses feels damn near hell.

Mark

I think you could do way worse than playing Omaha CC.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Sean Leary on March 29, 2011, 06:19:40 PM: Quote from: Jerry Kluger on March 26, 2011, 05:57:34 PM
Eric: I may be in the area around that time - is it okay to come over one day and play a round with the guys?

Just happen to be in the middle of nowhere Nebraska? :)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on April 01, 2011, 12:43:47 PM: There's some butchered Langford in the region. So depending on whether you're a serious student or just want to play the belt notchers, Omaha and Des Moines might be worth a visit.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on April 28, 2011, 03:48:40 PM: Bump

We're now about 2 months out from the trip, so if you're on the fence about coming, it's time to hop off! We can still add quite a few more of you to the group, but I'll need to give the club a final head/bed count in the next couple of weeks, so let's shoot for a May 13 deadline to sign up.

With a few additions and subtractions to the sign up sheet, I really couldn't be happier with the response thus far to come play golf in the middle of Nebraska on the 4th of July weekend !!

What a bunch of die hards we have assembled for what promises to be a fun filled holiday weekend.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mac Plumart on April 28, 2011, 07:52:46 PM: In the words of Bart Scott, "Can't wait!"

(http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu239/mplumart/DismalRiverValley.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tony_Chapman on April 29, 2011, 05:39:41 PM: While I will be unable to make this event, I live in Grand Island (about 3.5 hours from Mullen). If anyone needs a bed, I'd be happy to help and if anyone wants to see an "new and improved" York CC, I can accomodate. I also know the new super at Awarii Dunes and if someone wanted help with arrangements I would be happy to facilitate.

PM me if interested.

Also if you fly into Omaha, you can check out some early 90s Jeff Brauer at Woodland Hills just outside of Lincoln. I'm sure he'd tell you his most recent stuff is better but I often say that he brought golf in Nebraska to the next level with WH, Highlands (public in Lincoln), his rework at Pioneers and Champions Run (which hosts our Nationwide Event). It was those courses and Pete Dye's Firethorn that help make places like Sand Hills, Wild Horse, DR and Prairie Club possible today.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on April 30, 2011, 01:21:09 PM: Tony,

Thanks for the offer! Though I'm bringing a crew in from Denver on this trip, I would definitely like to take you up on your offer another time and come out via Omaha.

Offers like yours - to a bunch of folks you probably haven't met is yet another example of the strength of the membership here in the discussion group. I look forward to meeting up with you one day soon and enjoying time spent in that beautiful state of yours.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: John Kavanaugh on April 30, 2011, 01:22:30 PM: Eric,

Why isn't JC coming out?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on April 30, 2011, 01:53:28 PM: I believe he took a new teaching position this summer and has to work on that Friday.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on April 30, 2011, 02:03:00 PM: Partially correct. I do have to teach a summer class and it does end that Thursday and then I have to get my family from Charlotte, NC to northern MI for 4th of July weekend.

I am disappointed as I am desperate to get out there.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Jud_T on May 01, 2011, 07:28:39 AM: Jones,

This is your out! Take it while you still can! Those nightmares of you in head-to-toe Maize'n Blue will fade eventually!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on May 12, 2011, 07:32:35 AM: Last call everyone.

I'll be sending the list of participants to the club over the weekend and we should be all set for July.

Eric
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: John Kavanaugh on May 12, 2011, 08:20:50 AM: My future in-laws from Australia are visiting for the fourth. I guess Australians have a fireworks fetish so I need to be around to light it up. Sorry.

One other question. Does Australia have catfish?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on May 12, 2011, 09:22:34 AM: Quote from: John Kavanaugh on May 12, 2011, 08:20:50 AM
My future in-laws from Australia are visiting for the fourth. I guess Australians have a fireworks fetish so I need to be around to light it up. Sorry.

One other question. Does Australia have catfish?

You'll be missed, John.

I googled Australian catfish and it looks like they have an eeltail catfish in their waters.

(http://mikihar.net16.net/images/87.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: John Kavanaugh on May 12, 2011, 09:32:07 AM: Wow, with fish that friendly who needs women.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on June 17, 2011, 02:39:43 PM: We're two weeks out from the 5th Major - who's getting excited?

If any other GCAers would like to get out to Dismal over the 4th of July weekend, I'd be happy to add you to the guest list. Just need to know asap.

For those of you meeting in Denver on 6/30, I should be at the Enterprise desk sometime around 9AM. Mac has rented a second Suburban as well, though I'm not sure which agency. Mac? Looking forward to seeing / meeting everyone.

Any questions / comments?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on June 17, 2011, 10:43:49 PM: Eric - when we get there, with whom should we check in?

And, yes, I'm really excited!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 12:23:25 AM: For those who venture out for the 5th Major, I have fun surprise to share with you. Trust me, it will be worth the trek for a first look at something very special. You don't want to miss this opportunity to say you were there...at the inaugural 5th Major at Dismal River. An no, there is no prize for guessing - you have to be here.

Dan - just come up to the clubhouse and ask for CJ or Greg "Lumpy" Dennis. Or, just proceed to the hospitality desk in the pro shop. I really look forward to meeting all the GCAers and Lounge Lizards in person. The course is in exceptional condition, and is like nothing many of you have ever seen before in this country. The beer is already on ice! Great golf, great food, great friends.

Eric - My friend, that is quite a trophy. Have I mentioned I need a handicap adjustment?

John - Mullen has an exquisite fireworks show plus cow pattie bingo. Bring the in-laws!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mac Plumart on June 18, 2011, 07:12:44 AM: Eric...to your question about when I'll be at the car rental place. I think around 9, like you, I think Hertz. But I don't know for sure. But I'll be around there somewhere and I've got two open spots in the vehicle if anyone needs a ride. Simply pop me a PM to set it up.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on June 18, 2011, 08:34:35 AM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 12:23:25 AM
For those who venture out for the 5th Major, I have fun surprise to share with you. Trust me, it will be worth the trek for a first look at something very special. You don't want to miss this opportunity to say you were there...at the inaugural 5th Major at Dismal River. An no, there is no prize for guessing - you have to be here.

Dan - just come up to the clubhouse and ask for CJ or Greg "Lumpy" Dennis. Or, just proceed to the hospitality desk in the pro shop. I really look forward to meeting all the GCAers and Lounge Lizards in person. The course is in exceptional condition, and is like nothing many of you have ever seen before in this country. The beer is already on ice! Great golf, great food, great friends.

Eric - My friend, that is quite a trophy. Have I mentioned I need a handicap adjustment?

John - Mullen has an exquisite fireworks show plus cow pattie bingo. Bring the in-laws!

Oh, you're such a tease.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 08:39:01 AM: Oh, you're such a tease.
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Jason - Better change plans and get out here!

A clue: The surprise is a new item on the menu...quite an entree!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on June 18, 2011, 10:22:30 AM: My surprise for all the boys, has withdrawn her entry. Citing job requirements, but I know it's the new beau. ;)

I won't be able to replace Kenz, unless her Mom wants to play. ;D

It will still be a great time had by all who attend.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 10:27:19 AM: Quote from: Adam Clayman on June 18, 2011, 10:22:30 AM
My surprise for all the boys, has withdrawn her entry. Citing job requirements, but I know it's the new beau. ;)

I won't be able to replace Kenz, unless her Mom wants to play. ;D

It will still be a great time had by all who attend.

Adam - come up and be my partner!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on June 18, 2011, 12:20:29 PM: Chris,

Did you notice the ship to name on the FedEx air bill? ;D We used to drink beer out of that thing. Then it began rusting inside. JC's right, enough teasing already!

Mac,

There will be 8 of us meeting in Denver so we should split into 4's for the ride to Ballyneal. Some of the guys have asked to stop and play Wild Horse on Friday morning, I don't really want to though, but if say 4 decide they would like to, then the other 4 could just cruise on to Dismal.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on June 18, 2011, 02:21:11 PM: Ass-hats.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Ron Csigo on June 18, 2011, 03:27:08 PM: Quote from: JC Jones on June 18, 2011, 02:21:11 PM
Ass-hats.

Stop hating especially when you're currently down in Hilton Head playing quality golf.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 03:45:49 PM: Quote from: Eric Smith on June 18, 2011, 12:20:29 PM
Chris,

Did you notice the ship to name on the FedEx air bill? ;D We used to drink beer out of that thing. Then it began rusting inside. JC's right, enough teasing already!

E - I did notice and have arranged for crickets in your room ;D

I ain't teasing - we have new and wonderful entree on the menu. The Chefs have been very busy, and one of the guest chefs is working hard today. Seems I'm allergic to the recipies as I'm sneezing more than normal. Not teasing - I just don't want to make Jason pout :'( Those who will be here will see something unique and yummy.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on June 18, 2011, 06:42:33 PM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 03:45:49 PM

E - I did notice and have arranged for crickets in your room ;D

Great! I will use them for bait down at the trout pond. And what's this about a handicap adjustment? Has anyone in the world played more rounds at Dismal than you over the past year? :-X I didn't think so. ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Anthony Gray on June 18, 2011, 06:47:37 PM: Quote from: Adam Clayman on June 18, 2011, 10:22:30 AM
My surprise for all the boys, has withdrawn her entry. Citing job requirements, but I know it's the new beau. ;)

I won't be able to replace Kenz, unless her Mom wants to play. ;D

It will still be a great time had by all who attend.

I know of a good clinic you can go to for 12 weeks Adam.

Anthony
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 07:43:42 PM: Quote from: Eric Smith on June 18, 2011, 06:42:33 PM
Quote from: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 03:45:49 PM

E - I did notice and have arranged for crickets in your room ;D

Great! I will use them for bait down at the trout pond. And what's this about a handicap adjustment? Has anyone in the world played more rounds at Dismal than you over the past year? :-X I didn't think so. ;D

I guess I've certainly played both courses at Dismal River more than anyone. Green speeds are wildly different between the two these days. Still need an adjustment - spending too much time with the Chefs these days.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on June 18, 2011, 08:40:37 PM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 07:43:42 PM

I guess I've certainly played both courses at Dismal River more than anyone. Green speeds are wildly different between the two these days. Still need an adjustment - spending too much time with the Chefs these days.

Time to step out of the kitchen??
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on June 18, 2011, 09:00:43 PM: Quote from: Anthony Gray on June 18, 2011, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: Adam Clayman on June 18, 2011, 10:22:30 AM
My surprise for all the boys, has withdrawn her entry. Citing job requirements, but I know it's the new beau. ;)

I won't be able to replace Kenz, unless her Mom wants to play. ;D

It will still be a great time had by all who attend.

I know of a good clinic you can go to for 12 weeks Adam.

Anthony

A sight for sore eyes
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 09:05:07 PM: Quote from: Eric Smith on June 18, 2011, 08:40:37 PM
Quote from: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 07:43:42 PM

I guess I've certainly played both courses at Dismal River more than anyone. Green speeds are wildly different between the two these days. Still need an adjustment - spending too much time with the Chefs these days.

Time to step out of the kitchen??

I don't have the honor on that tee - I have deferred to the Chefs. They are very busy preparing the meal. Only they can announce "dinner is served". I do believe we are serving Green Jell-O for dessert. The menu is exquisite!

Adam - you ducking me, Pards? The Commish said I could have a few extra pops!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on June 18, 2011, 09:25:02 PM: Chris, Not ducking, just been out all day. I would love to be your pardner. I have a few invites out to take Mckenzie's spot, if they don't pan out, I'm in to be your partner.

Also, I have not forgotten to call up there, I've just been out of town for a couple weeks. Will be back in the swing of things this week.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 18, 2011, 11:36:54 PM: Quote from: Adam Clayman on June 18, 2011, 09:25:02 PM
Chris, Not ducking, just been out all day. I would love to be your pardner. I have a few invites out to take Mckenzie's spot, if they don't pan out, I'm in to be your partner.

Also, I have not forgotten to call up there, I've just been out of town for a couple weeks. Will be back in the swing of things this week.

Awesome! Keep me posted. Look forward to seeing you and everyone. Things are coming along nicely.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on June 30, 2011, 10:43:36 AM: Gentlemen, Went out to DR yesterday. It was hot, windy and green. The recent rains have made the entire region look like a European Tour televised course. (Just kidding)

But even with the surrounds green, the course played firm.

I took an adventurous route up to DR from Ogallala. It made the drive up 97 from North platte look dull. It was on the Tucker Ranch road.
The number of blow outs and their proximity to the road was a gca geek's delight. I would not recco the road in a car. You need a vehicle that can handle the vagaries of the wild region. Plus, you might want to bring survival supplies. You never know when you might have to wait 3 days for a herd of Buffalo to pass. (J/K again). But, on the way there, we talked about the heartiness of the settlers in the region. Even some modern anecdotes of how the the only thing residents made sure to have with then, when traveling out in this open country, was a pack of matches. Just in case there was a prairie fire, so they could set a back fire to protect themselves.

It looks like Friday is going to be ideal weather. 84, which beats the 90+ of yesterday and the 100+ of today. The weekend will also be nice with temps in the high 80's.

Bring your A game and start hydrating.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on June 30, 2011, 12:01:52 PM: Adam:

Sorry I missed you - I was over at Sand Hills. The 5th Major is right around the corner! The beer is on ice and the course is in terrific shape.

This event should be an abosolute hoot.

Just wait until you see my new driver...truly one of a kind.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on June 30, 2011, 01:19:04 PM: Chris, look forward to seeing the club, frequently.

Couple of shots from yesterday.

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j474/aclayman/18fromJacksshack.jpg)

(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j474/aclayman/Clubhouse.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on June 30, 2011, 06:23:19 PM: we're staged & ready to go here in N. Platte!

Been to Sutton Bay and the Black Hills, and Dismal river will be great!

PS -- The area south of Alliance along US385 would be a great site for a great course!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tim Martin on June 30, 2011, 06:58:51 PM: Quote from: Dan Herrmann on June 30, 2011, 06:23:19 PM
we're staged & ready to go here in N. Platte!

Been to Sutton Bay and the Black Hills, and Dismal river will be great!

PS -- The area south of Alliance along US385 would be a great site for a great course!

Dan-What`s the prairie dog situation out there?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on June 30, 2011, 08:10:08 PM: Tim - not sure, but probably nothing a hungry terrier couldn't fix :)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 01, 2011, 09:30:04 AM: Arrival day...
...It begins!

The course is ready and the legend continues.

Travel safe. my friends.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 06:51:51 PM: All one can say is Wow. From the event, to the participants, everything was top notch. First cabin. We were blessed with great weather, great food, and a venue that was vastly improved from its original. My attempt to chronicle those changes could not do them justice. But, the biggest difference can be summed up with one word. "Soulful". The lions share of this turnaround is Chris Johnston's doing.
His considerable spirit is represented through his excellent staff. From the caddies, wait staff and grounds crew, all the way up to the head pro\GM, a relaxed playful attitude, exudes the phrase 'have fun', and, permiates the massive grounds. The course has secrets to be revealed throughout its varied route and after not losing any balls one can easily appreciate how far the course has come, if they were there for its inaugural season. While the turnout suffered some last minute cancels, all who attended were ecstatic. This will become an annual event, so if you were on the fence, next year the chef is designing up something uniquely special. So, make sure you all try and make it out and feel first hand what a first class experience Dismal River has become. Anyone with specific aechitectural questions, fire away?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Anthony Gray on July 03, 2011, 08:16:58 PM: Sounds like an emphasis on playability.How would a high handicapper stand up?

Anthony
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 08:23:56 PM: Quote from: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 06:51:51 PM
after not losing any balls one can easily appreciate how far the course has come
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Bart Bradley on July 03, 2011, 09:22:30 PM: Adam:

How is the turf quality at present?

Tell us about the variety of shots required. Does the architecture promote the ground game?

What is the best specific change since you first saw the course?

When can I go ;D?

Best wishes,

Bart
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 10:12:55 PM: Bart, The variety of shots is limited only by your imagination. The turf quality is excellent and firmness changes throughout the day.

I can tell you that today, I was putting off side boards for air braking, hitting low runners, and high softies.

The major difference from the first time I saw it is the FUN factor. And, the ability to find almost any ball hit off into the gunk. Putting can be difficult, because the greens have enough internal contours to challenge you, to get the speed and line precisely correct.

The mix of holes is quite nice from the short par 4's to the long, fortress guarded greens long holes.

The new 18th green is actually an improvement and quite fun.

You can come July 20-21 or July 25-27. ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tim Bert on July 03, 2011, 10:52:23 PM: Adam - what, if any, changes were made to the hole and specifically to the green that had (has?!?) the bunker in the middle of it?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Bart Bradley on July 03, 2011, 10:55:10 PM: How did they change the gunk (as you call it)?

Bart
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 11:32:29 PM: Tim, The 10th hole has been altered. From my recollection, the bunker is now less deep, less severe. The hole is actually really fun to play, where ever they put the pin.

Bart,
On my initial visit the surrounds were ridiculously over grown. The design did not make the corridors wide enough for the region and the turns came too quickly. While there has been widening of the ninth hole's irrigation system (on the right side) creating more playable width, many holes have been widened by just cutting down the native, to a reasonable height. The lies one gets in the native are quite varied and random. But, the implication is a wider a golf course where balls are now found, rather than never found, as it was the first year. There are a few other areas were primary rough is being turning into fairway, but not many.

There was some original criticism (4-5 years ago) of the stark demarcation line between turf and native. The current course blends quite nicely and is no longer jarring on the eye, the way that first iteration did.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 04, 2011, 12:02:42 AM: Congratulations to GCAer Mark Saltzman and Dismal member Ron Hendren for winning The 5th Major. It was the most fun 3 days of golf in my life and I think everyone here has enjoyed their time at DRGC. It's tough knowing we're leaving tomorrow, but the good news is we'll be back. Thanks everyone for coming!

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-168.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 04, 2011, 12:05:59 AM: Quote from: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 11:32:29 PM
Tim, The 10th hole has been altered. From my recollection, the bunker is now less deep, less severe. The hole is actually really fun to play, where ever they put the pin.

Also, having three pins set in the green during the tourney delivered 3 times the fun!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mark Saltzman on July 04, 2011, 12:10:01 AM: Quote from: Eric Smith on July 04, 2011, 12:05:59 AM
Quote from: Adam Clayman on July 03, 2011, 11:32:29 PM
Tim, The 10th hole has been altered. From my recollection, the bunker is now less deep, less severe. The hole is actually really fun to play, where ever they put the pin.

Also, having three pins set in the green during the tourney delivered 3 times the fun!

Yup, it was tons of fun with three pins! Something I have never seen before but I could see it catching on pretty quickly.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 04, 2011, 12:32:54 AM: Eric - 4 birdies today! - great event. Hope you liked the kitchen tours.

Mark - what, 5 under in two days? Great meeting you and great playing with you at SHGC! Dude has game!

AC - You, pards, are a horse! Alignment!

John the Lyon, walkable? Definately.

Mac and Everyone - thanks for coming out - see you all next year!

The Chef did good work, no?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on July 04, 2011, 12:43:14 AM: I have way too much to say about Dismal River, so I'll be starting a bigger thread on the course next week. For right now, I can say Dismal River is a tremendous golf course. It is unlike anything I have ever played, with big, broad elevation changes, jagged bunkering in the right places, and a very cool set of greens. And yes, Dismal is very walkable, it just needs some walking paths for those walkers who don't have my adventurous spirit!

Chris, I enjoyed the appetizer from the Chef this weekend, and I can't wait for the main course. Pretty tasty stuff!

Of course, the weekend overall was a blast. It was a great first trip to the Chop Hills of Colorado and the Sand Hills of Nebraska. Thanks to Adam Clayman and Big E for setting things up at Ballyneal and Dismal. I'm pretty sure I'll be back here sometime in the future.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mac Plumart on July 04, 2011, 12:49:04 AM: Chris, it was great...like Adam said. Great stuff across the board.

The "White Saber", stories of Patron, the new menu items (and yes, in just a few days I ate maybe 5 pulled pork sandwiches :) ), perhaps the greatest nine hole match in the history of golf (eagles, holes in one), and meeting old friends and making new ones. Great time, great time!!!

And oh yeah, Mark Saltzman might have a big golf game, but this golf trip he is currently on is even bigger!!! CRAZY!!!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on July 04, 2011, 01:04:34 AM: Patron?? Who??
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Doug Siebert on July 04, 2011, 02:06:48 AM: I just want to thank Eric again for getting me in at the last minute when my plans changed to allow it, and also thank Chris for everything. I can't say I was treated like a member, because in most clubs even members aren't treated as well as we all were. It was first class all the way! It was great to finally get to a GCA gathering after all these years on the board and meet in person some of the people I've chatted with. There wasn't a single one who I wouldn't jump at the chance to play with again.

As for the course, even during my initial round on Friday, coming about an hour after a 600 mile drive on zero sleep leaving me with one heck of a lot of lower back pain, I loved it even as I was losing a half dozen balls and telling myself I should have brought more. But between getting a better look at things and a bit of sleep, I got a chance to play the course mostly from the fairway the remainder of my stay and loved the course more each time around. I really enjoyed the strategy off the tees where on various holes you get to balance the better angle, better view and better lie - and often had to choose. The tee shot on the 2nd hole was the first of several examples of this - the best angle is from the left side of the fairway, while the best view and best lie is found on the right (but that's the most dangerous to hit, with a steep hillside awaiting those who venture too far right) I love it when you are forced to compromise, rather than having one "position A" that's the best of all worlds.

I also want to thank Chris for giving us all a taste of what the Chef is cooking up in his kitchen. It sure smelled good! Well, except for the part that attracted the deerflies ;)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 04, 2011, 07:53:43 AM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on July 04, 2011, 01:04:34 AM
Patron?? Who??
^^^
John's new nickname!

Steve: We love deerfly pie! The chef does it well!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 04, 2011, 08:12:03 AM: Shame on me for not mentioning Doug's HOLE IN ONE on 15 during his first round. I was in the group ahead of his so didn't get to see it, but from all accounts it went something like, "doink - plop!"
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: ed_getka on July 04, 2011, 10:52:46 AM: Sounds like a great time was had by all. It is cool to hear that the course has been adjusted from its original state and is receiving such high praise. Has anyone else played it recently and in it's original state besides Adam? Just as a reference point Adam what would you give DR on the Doak scale then versus now?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Scott Szabo on July 05, 2011, 09:43:03 AM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 04, 2011, 12:32:54 AM

Mark - what, 5 under in two days? Great meeting you and great playing with you at SHGC! Dude has game!

I will be playing with Mark tomorrow, and it's nice to know what I'm getting myself into.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Scott Szabo on July 05, 2011, 09:43:38 AM: Quote from: Eric Smith on July 04, 2011, 12:02:42 AM
Congratulations to GCAer Mark Saltzman and Dismal member Ron Hendren for winning The 5th Major. It was the most fun 3 days of golf in my life and I think everyone here has enjoyed their time at DRGC. It's tough knowing we're leaving tomorrow, but the good news is we'll be back. Thanks everyone for coming!

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-168.jpg)

Can anyone explain the scoring system that was used?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 05, 2011, 09:54:35 AM: Quote from: Scott Szabo on July 05, 2011, 09:43:03 AM
Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 04, 2011, 12:32:54 AM

Mark - what, 5 under in two days? Great meeting you and great playing with you at SHGC! Dude has game!

I will be playing with Mark tomorrow, and it's nice to know what I'm getting myself into.

Mark is great, he is fun and plays quite well.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on July 05, 2011, 09:56:31 AM: Scott, The first two 18 holes were scored as match play against your opposing team. However, they were nine hole matches. So, each hole won was a point and each hole halved was half a point. Due to some logistics, the last day we had to alter the method, so, we played match play against Old Man Par. If your team netted a birdie you got a full point. If you netted par it was half a point. Chris' right arm, Gregg, was the genius who figured out how to make the competition work, since some one, or two had to get back to civilization for the 4th of July.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 05, 2011, 02:10:57 PM: (http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-170.jpg)
Me and AC before departure

I miss Dismal. What is it that I miss? Well, I wish I was standing on the 1st tee with loads of confidence that this time it's going to be different and I'm going to hit that same drive I hit in the practice round of the 5th Major. Big hitter, the Lama - long. Is it putting from 100 yards out during a match and laughing at the results afterwards until I almost passed out? Maybe, I did that several times, with mixed results. Drank lots of water from a can. No, in my mind it is the visit and all that you experienced, all that you absorbed, all that you shared with others, while there. It is the people who were at Dismal with you that makes the memory. I'm certain that I would enjoy a solo sojourn to that otherworldy river valley setting and I may do just that in a few weeks. But it is the people of your last visit that binds all of the experiences together and makes it what it is. Golf and friends. And those friends are more than simply those you played golf with. It's everyone out there and that is one of the main reasons the experience stays with you. At least it is for me, anyway. I met 4 members this time around. Again - great people and wouldn't you know, one of them is getting his name etched on the trophy this week along with our boy Saltzy.

This visit started with the 3 young men greeting us upon arrival. One, as professional as any class A 'inside' guy anywhere, was running the outside operations without a hitch while keeping it light and fun. He won't tell you, but I will - he owns the course record. A 62. Hello! His assistants were two of the finest kids I've ever met. I don't mean to call a soon-to-be junior in college a kid [It's only because I know his dad that I call him that], but this young man brings the energy and enthusiasm that all of us middle aged dudes wish we still had! I am certain he could be the finest caddy in the sand hills, but I'm guessing he has another calling and his future is beyond bright. His little brother - the Task Master was, time and time again, always a step ahead of his old man. The Ranger filled before anyone ever had to ask. Again, great kid.

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-173.jpg)
Another caddy, again, great guy went above and beyond in his duties on the course.

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-172.jpg)
Cool Hand
In my former life, I spent 13 years working in and out of golf shops and have known a lot of really good golf professionals. Know this - Cool Hand ~~Luke~~ Dennis is alive and well in the sand hills of Nebraska! We have the best DOG on the planet out at Dismal. The guy makes it all look so easy, and of course it is (I should know). Just kidding. A little.

What else...OK, who doesn't miss those big genuine smiles of our friend from Iowa? How 'bout the big red head's enlightening campfire poker stories? That hawkish stare that Saltzy's always giving the waitresses late at night. Hogan's Dead show flashback: "I partied with him at Red Rocks 20 years ago!" I could go on and on. All of us know what it was like. There is only one thing left to do. Go back and do it all over again - next year.

My proposal, with the blessing from the rest of the membership: we have 78 beds at Dismal - I'd like to see a heckuva big GCA type group fill this thing out and make 2012 the biggest 5th Major ever! Like Adam said earlier, it'll still be 4th of July weekend so the 5th on the 4th or something like that.

Last, but not least - a few words about the man behind the resurgence at Dismal River Golf Club. If there ever was a guy I want to have as my head coach, a guy I would die to play for, it is Chris Johnston. To me, he is a larger than life version of Sam Rutigliano. When people go to Dismal, they'll no doubt get to know Chris. He'll likely be checking you in, helping fix the wifi in your cabin or tending bar after your round, though he's a little slow in getting you your drink (talking too much). He brings more to the table than just the pork chop with his name on it. He brings the zest - the life - the soul, call it what you want. When we left yesterday, I told JNC and Whit in the car as we were driving down the wrong 20 mile sand road that I already missed Chris.

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-166.jpg)
I also miss our battles on the links. His driver is way cool, btw.

I have a bunch more pictures of the action at the 5th Major. Not so much photos of bunkers and fairways, but plenty of the inside of Jack's Shack, the people in the bar and other goings on at Dismal last weekend. (and a ~~memorable~~ legendary night a the Turtle Bar at Ballyneal with young Mr. Lyon and Mr. Whitaker.) I'll post them tonight.

What a time we had, Many thanks to everyone who made the journey.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tony Weiler on July 05, 2011, 03:31:17 PM: Sounds like you guys had an awesome time. Love the pic with Eric and Adam. Two great GCAers.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Michael Whitaker on July 05, 2011, 03:32:42 PM: Eric, John and I had a great start to our Dismal River holiday as we encountered some of the locals on the back road to the club!

(http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/OVRLFqELHXs/default.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRLFqELHXs&feature=player_profilepage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRLFqELHXs&feature=player_profilepage)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: RJ_Daley on July 05, 2011, 03:47:11 PM: Wow, with all that lush grassland this year, you'd think we'd see some drop in prices of beef in fall. Skip the corn fattening e-coli soaked feedlot and get them grassland fed beauties straight to market!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on July 05, 2011, 03:52:19 PM: Quote from: RJ_Daley on July 05, 2011, 03:47:11 PM
Wow, with all that lush grassland this year, you'd think we'd see some drop in prices of beef in fall. Skip the corn fattening e-coli soaked feedlot and get them grassland fed beauties straight to market!

Would help with the soil erosion and the flooding in the midwest too.

Had a grassfed burger the other night; once you go grass you never go back.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 05, 2011, 04:15:28 PM: Those feed lots are, for lack of a better word - dismal. We drove past a couple of them along the interstate. Worst smell in the world.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Kalen Braley on July 05, 2011, 04:19:41 PM: Quote from: Eric Smith on July 05, 2011, 04:15:28 PM
Those feed lots are, for lack of a better word - dismal. We drove past a couple of them along the interstate. Worst smell in the world.

+1 I drove by one of those in the california interior years ago. The sight and smell were utterly sickening... didn't eat beef for a month after that!!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on July 05, 2011, 04:38:04 PM: Quote from: Eric Smith on July 05, 2011, 04:15:28 PM
Those feed lots are, for lack of a better word - dismal. We drove past a couple of them along the interstate. Worst smell in the world.

Interestingly, if you account for the land required to grow the corn to feed the cows, the factory beef farms actually take up MORE land to supply the same amount of beef as pasture/grassfed farms. They also concentrate the waste so while manure is great for regenerating top soil (and conversely farming the same land over and over with corn erodes the top soil), the quantity and amount of manure generated by the factory beef farms is toxic and harmful to the surrounding water (above and below ground).
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: RJ_Daley on July 05, 2011, 05:33:01 PM: From the little I read about it, the factory feedlot operations that are feeding the cattle the unnatural corn that is said to produce the e-coli in the first stomach because the animal is not suited to digest corn well -and that is where the bacteria forms, can still be cleansed after feeding on corn to work out the e-coli from the system in a mere 5 days of redirecting them back to grass forage, but the industry thinks they loose too much money putting that step in the process, and loss of a few pounds on the hoof that the animal sheds in those few days of reintroduction to grass after corn in order for the animal to cleanse.

Sorry for the hijack, but in fact you can't really have a full cattle country grazing prairie experience without some discussion of cowagraphy politics and economics. ;D 8) ::)

BTW, be careful what you write, because you can get sued by the meat processors on allegations of disparaging them if you express these opinions on your beliefs. :P
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Kalen Braley on July 05, 2011, 05:43:31 PM: Quote from: RJ_Daley on July 05, 2011, 05:33:01 PM
From the little I read about it, the factory feedlot operations that are feeding the cattle the unnatural corn that is said to produce the e-coli in the first stomach because the animal is not suited to digest corn well -and that is where the bacteria forms, can still be cleansed after feeding on corn to work out the e-coli from the system in a mere 5 days of redirecting them back to grass forage, but the industry thinks they loose too much money putting that step in the process, and loss of a few pounds on the hoof that the animal sheds in those few days of reintroduction to grass after corn in order for the animal to cleanse.

Sorry for the hijack, but in fact you can't really have a full cattle country grazing prairie experience without some discussion of cowagraphy politics and economics. ;D 8) ::)

BTW, be careful what you write, because you can get sued by the meat processors on allegations of disparaging them if you express these opinions on your beliefs. :P

RJ is correct on all accounts.

Even Oprah got her azz sued off for having a show just talking about it. How crazy is it that we live in a country where people can be sued just for talking about something with actual evidence/data.....

The Cattle lobby needs to be "roped and hog-tied"
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mike Hogan on July 05, 2011, 07:25:48 PM: I don't have much more to add that almost everyone else has already said I really wanted to just say Thank You to Eric and to Chris for having the group out to Dismal. Your generousity is greatly appreciated. Chris you have a special place and should be proud.

The course and the club were both just awesome. But I was really blown away by the comaraderie and the relaxed friendly atmosphere at Dismal and within the GCA group of misfits.

I have so many memories, the Battle with Salzman, a Hole in one by my partner, Our caddy climbing a windmill,
someone asking witch flag to hit towards when there was only one flag on the green, and the caddy saying without missing a beat "The one one the Right". I had many awsome conversations with people I had just met Mac, Drew, Eric, Chris, Doug, Patron, Adam.
I think I chatted with almost everyone and enjoyed every minute and never a dull moment. Thank you all and Thanks for putting up with my flashback to RED Rocks.

Someone else mentioned the club had soul and a good vibe and I couldn't agree more. I think that this is mainly due to the passion and determination that Chris has and has passed onto his staff. Top notch from the top on down. With the additions to the menu the potential of Dismal River is off the charts.
I can't wait until next year!!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on July 05, 2011, 07:35:39 PM: Quote from: Michael Whitaker on July 05, 2011, 03:32:42 PM
Eric, John and I had a great start to our Dismal River holiday as we encountered some of the locals on the back road to the club!

(http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/OVRLFqELHXs/default.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRLFqELHXs&feature=player_profilepage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRLFqELHXs&feature=player_profilepage)

Traffic was brutal that day. Unfortunately, we didn't get the buzzard collision on video from yesterday.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 12:37:06 AM: As to cattle - the feed lots fatten the cows and fat enhances the taste. Before they are shipped there, cows out here are very lean, muscular in fact. The best beef has marbling and marbling comes from feedlots.

I do wonder what would happen if they took the cows directly to the cornfield - would seem to eliminate a few steps and increase efficiency.

Than ks again to Eric. Lets make the 5th Major a "GCA Major". Mark your schedules!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: RJ_Daley on July 06, 2011, 01:03:03 AM: From Tom Doaks alma mater: http://www.news.cornell.edu/chronicle/98/9.17.98/cattle_feeding.html ;)

Chris, there is your opportunity to set a culinary trend with your chef and promote exclusive DR 'grass fed' local beef, processed in Mullen, without the feedlot corn marbling hazard. The grass fed beef is more lean than chicken and more 'heart healthy'. Those angus beauties seen on the video looked pretty darn plump on the lush pasture of this year to me. Can I borrow one for a little while? ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 01:50:18 AM: RJD - grass only fed beef tastes like...well...grass. I'm pro choice here, Sterling Silver Angus is the very best and its the only choice we offer! We ship it to an aging house to enhance flavor. Ever been to big chicken farm? We also get our lamb from Lava Lake lamb in Idaho - the best.

To all raters: you are welcome to come out to Dismal River, anytime, to see what the buzz is about. GCAers too! But, I agree you must be here a few days to really appreciate the course, shot values, and greens.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Garland Bayley on July 06, 2011, 01:55:45 AM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 12:37:06 AM
As to cattle - the feed lots fatten the cows and fat enhances the taste. ...

And pray tell, what does it do to the arteries in your heart? ;)

Actually, it is my impression that fat mellows the taste. Grass fed beef is tastier in my experience.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Doug Siebert on July 06, 2011, 04:03:03 AM: I like grass fed beef too, it just has to be cooked a bit differently to bring out the taste. It really wants to be prepared rare or medium rare, cooking it towards well done will dry it out too much (if you like well done steaks it is probably because you are eating steaks that are overly fatty in the first place, so you need to cook the hell out of it to break down all that fat)

Since grass fed beef mostly lacks its own fat, and will dry out if overcooked, if you do prefer it medium or medium well you could marinate it if grilling, or cook it in oil, like olive or truffle oil. You also want to at lower temperatures - if you're grilling, use the topmost rack. If its a thick cut you might cook it balanced on its side to start (if you can't balance it on its side then its not thick enough for this to matter) Despite the lower temperature it'll actually require less cooking time to achieve the same internal temperature. People who are used to cooking corn fed beef and cook by time rather than internal temperature will badly overcook grass fed beef, and it'll be dry and tasteless as a result.

Actually though I prefer bison to beef, and since bison were native to the sandhills region up until about 150 years ago, maybe it could go on the menu instead if Chris wants to keep his corn fed beef...after all, the bison is on the logo on same of the DR shirts :)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Mark_F on July 06, 2011, 04:59:17 AM: Quote from: Garland Bayley on July 06, 2011, 01:55:45 AM
Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 12:37:06 AM
As to cattle - the feed lots fatten the cows and fat enhances the taste. ...

And pray tell, what does it do to the arteries in your heart? ;)

You could try eating a smaller portion, as the heart-healthy French do, as opposed to the 600-800 gram servings all too common in the USA. :D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Adam Clayman on July 06, 2011, 07:18:13 AM: The rank odor is more from all the urine than the poop. As for beef prices, there should be a break once the first rancher has to pay the price for hay. But around here nobody rushes to market. They take care on the cost side and take what's given the day they get to market. Ogallala is either the oldest or biggest live auction mkt. When this golf runs its course I might just try and work there. Since I started in the cattle pit, I view it as pure symmetry. BTW, Bill Curtis (Kurtis?) Retired a in Kansas by buying a ranch with cows whose lineage dates to the Mayflower. He studied the grass v corn debate and concluded grass is where its at. Dogs too can't digest corn, so if you are feeding them food where corn is the main ingredient, your killing ytour dog thru malnutrition. The area left of the 4th hole windmill took lots of re-working because the soil wasd so bad from all the cow pee. And pie, maybe? ;)

Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Yellow fat was designed out of all the cattle. It turns out that yellow fat was so full of amino acids, it made it very healthy.

How appropriate you had Meatloaf on the stereo on the Tucker ranch road video
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Michael Whitaker on July 06, 2011, 09:37:05 AM: Quote from: Adam Clayman on July 06, 2011, 07:18:13 AM
How appropriate you had Meatloaf on the stereo on the Tucker ranch road video

I thought that was kind of cool, too!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 06, 2011, 10:27:06 AM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on July 04, 2011, 01:04:34 AM
Patron?? Who??

You know who!! :-X ;D

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-181.jpg)

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-182.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Bill_McBride on July 06, 2011, 10:34:05 AM: Quote from: JC Jones on July 05, 2011, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: RJ_Daley on July 05, 2011, 03:47:11 PM
Wow, with all that lush grassland this year, you'd think we'd see some drop in prices of beef in fall. Skip the corn fattening e-coli soaked feedlot and get them grassland fed beauties straight to market!

Would help with the soil erosion and the flooding in the midwest too.

Had a grassfed burger the other night; once you go grass you never go back.

The beef in Argentina is the best I've ever had, and until recently all grass fed. Sadly, I recently read that there are now a couple of American style feed lots. However, I doubt the feed will be corn. I have heard that are far more antibiotics used in agriculture than medicine. L :P
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on July 06, 2011, 11:26:03 AM: Nothing beats the post-patron picture.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 06, 2011, 11:39:13 AM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 12:37:06 AM
As to cattle - the feed lots fatten the cows and fat enhances the taste. Before they are shipped there, cows out here are very lean, muscular in fact.

There are some 200 head (400 including calves) roaming the property at Dismal River. Reminded me of being at Pennard, mixing golf and cattle together!

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/c2ca4ccd.jpg)

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6008/5909067332_dfa51544ed_b.jpg)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JC Jones on July 06, 2011, 11:47:38 AM: I think it reflects Doak's feelings on my bunker building ability
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Peter Pallotta on July 06, 2011, 11:53:42 AM: Eric, JNC - bless you guys, you're still in the game!! I mean, I've done some drinking in my life, but at this point I can't even IMAGINE knocking back tequilas and pints of beer after a round of golf. All I hope for is a bottle of mineral water and someone to hold me up in the shower before tucking me into bed with a cup of mint tea and a book. Yup -- a real outdoorsy type...

Peter
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on July 06, 2011, 02:13:49 PM: Unreal. I have no comment on those two pictures. ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 02:27:30 PM: Quote from: JNC Lyon on July 06, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
Unreal. I have no comment on those two pictures. ::) :P ;D

Patron - what's with the coffee cup?

btw - I would have left the bottle at the table.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: RJ_Daley on July 06, 2011, 02:36:39 PM: The flash-eye treatment on the first photo looks like it is from 'Children from the Corn'!

The condition of that pasture in the bucolic scenes is positively gorgeous.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: JNC Lyon on July 06, 2011, 02:55:46 PM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: JNC Lyon on July 06, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
Unreal. I have no comment on those two pictures. ::) :P ;D

Patron - what's with the coffee cup?

btw - I would have left the bottle at the table.

I have no clue about the coffee cup. I do know that Big E was constantly outdrinking me, so I always had two beers to his one. And we didn't get a bottle at the table, mainly because we didn't plan on drinking that much (or at least I didn't). It's okay, I was just so excited about the Chef's work that day.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Michael Whitaker on July 06, 2011, 03:27:29 PM: Quote from: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: JNC Lyon on July 06, 2011, 02:13:49 PM
Unreal. I have no comment on those two pictures. ::) :P ;D

Patron - what's with the coffee cup?

btw - I would have left the bottle at the table.

Chris - I think that was my cup. I had a Bailey's and coffee when these guys were downing their first beer. I hit the road when they started doubling up, drinking beers and tequila shots at the same time. I knew there was going to be Hell to pay the next morning... and, I can promise it was not a pretty sight at breakfast!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Tim Martin on July 06, 2011, 07:48:14 PM: Quote from: Eric Smith on July 06, 2011, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: JNC Lyon on July 04, 2011, 01:04:34 AM
Patron?? Who??

You know who!! :-X ;D

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-181.jpg)

(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/photo-182.jpg)
Great pictures.Was the coffee cup loaded with fresh lime wedges ready for action? Why does JNC look blurry? I will understand if you can`t or won`t answer my questions. ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 06, 2011, 11:37:38 PM: Looks like Eric "clank" Smith really enjoyed that shot!

Clank = the sound made when you hit the windmill tower on #4 at Dismal River.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Anthony Gray on July 07, 2011, 02:11:53 PM: This looks link one of those special places. Hope to get cleared for next year.

Anthony
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Carl Nichols on July 07, 2011, 02:32:24 PM: Quote from: Bill_McBride on July 06, 2011, 10:34:05 AM
Quote from: JC Jones on July 05, 2011, 03:52:19 PM
Quote from: RJ_Daley on July 05, 2011, 03:47:11 PM
Wow, with all that lush grassland this year, you'd think we'd see some drop in prices of beef in fall. Skip the corn fattening e-coli soaked feedlot and get them grassland fed beauties straight to market!

Would help with the soil erosion and the flooding in the midwest too.

Had a grassfed burger the other night; once you go grass you never go back.

The beef in Argentina is the best I've ever had, and until recently all grass fed. Sadly, I recently read that there are now a couple of American style feed lots. However, I doubt the feed will be corn. I have heard that are far more antibiotics used in agriculture than medicine. L :P

Bill:
There are more than just a couple. My wife's cousin owns a big ranch in Argentina and apparently you can fatten a cow 2-3 times faster in a feed lot, so unless you're going for really high-end beef, there's a lot of pressure to convert.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Harris Nepon on July 08, 2011, 09:34:35 AM: Is it to early to put my name in for next years 5th major?

I'm drinking the Dismal River Kool-Aid in a bad way.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Scott Szabo on July 08, 2011, 09:44:43 AM: Quote from: Harris Nepon on July 08, 2011, 09:34:35 AM
Is it to early to put my name in for next years 5th major?

I'm drinking the Dismal River Kool-Aid in a bad way.

You beat me to it. I was going to ask the same thing!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: John Kavanaugh on July 08, 2011, 09:47:27 AM: Quote from: Scott Szabo on July 08, 2011, 09:44:43 AM
Quote from: Harris Nepon on July 08, 2011, 09:34:35 AM
Is it to early to put my name in for next years 5th major?

I'm drinking the Dismal River Kool-Aid in a bad way.

You beat me to it. I was going to ask the same thing!

The best way to get in on the next 5th Major is to go out to 5.1 later this year.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Sean Leary on July 08, 2011, 10:37:12 AM: Course looks great. Of course it always looked great to me even when it opened. How things change....
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on July 08, 2011, 10:43:15 AM: Just got back home from my road trip from Philly to Sutton Bay to the Back Hills back to Dismal River and Sand Hills. We had an A+ time, and the 5th Major was the cornerstone of the fun.

Dismal River was amazing. Chris Johnston was an amazing host and his staff was world-class. The guys acting as caddies are actually much better golfers than many of us, and their knowledge added to the experience. I know how tough it is to run a tournament, especially with 7 teams, some of whom needed to leave early on Sunday. Great job, Eric!

I also have a renewed respect for Nicklaus design. I thought the course was fun, whimsical, and full of surprises. The green surfaces were very well designed, forcing the player to be on the right portion to have a shot at holing the putt. The bunkers were well placed and looked nothing like earlier Nicklaus courses I had played. Honestly, they looked more Doak/Hanse/C&C than Nicklaus, which was fine with me.

Jack also used elevation changes very well. #5 and #6 were masterful uphill shots and there weren't any "signature" drop shots to be found. Nice!

But best of all, Dismal River has a soul. It's tough to put my finger on it, but it's definitely there. Dismal River is a VERY special place that I dare say can be transformational. There's a sense of peace out there that's impossible to fake. I don't know if it's the easily seen Milky Way, the atmosphere where everybody there (staff, golfers, guests) is part of a family, Chris Johnston's love of the place, or a very, very good and wonderfully fun golf course......

Guys - you owe it to yourself to get to Dismal River, and you'll be glad you did.

Last note - We played at Sand Hills on Monday. It's only about 8 miles away as the crow flies, but it's about a 45 minute drive if you decide to take paved roads. We all know about the greatness of Sand Hills, and the accolades are deserved. I have nothing but the highest praises for Sand Hills.... But, the closeness of Sand Hills and Dismal River provides a great opportunity for golf architecture study - to look at the contrasts and similarities and to realize that C&C and Jack both built something special in their own way in what is probably the most remote part of the lower 48.

PS - I thought the Dismal River chef did world-class work. Great choices, great greens... I loved the way he used the "sense of place" in his dishes....
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 08, 2011, 11:34:28 AM: Dan,

Thank you for coming to the 5th Major. It really was a fun time, wasn't it? You and Laura are two of the nicest folks on the planet and it was great to finally get to meet the both of you. You'll have to come back again. How's Laura's back holding up? Was she able to play when you were at Sand Hills?
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 08, 2011, 11:40:38 AM: Quote from: Harris Nepon on July 08, 2011, 09:34:35 AM
Is it to early to put my name in for next years 5th major?

I'm drinking the Dismal River Kool-Aid in a bad way.

Harris,

I'd love to see you come for the next one. You have to bring your sidekick along as well. He has a fairly substantial bar credit he can cash in when you all arrive...so you've got that going for you! ;D
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Matt Bosela on July 08, 2011, 11:56:14 AM: Quote from: Eric Smith on July 08, 2011, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: Harris Nepon on July 08, 2011, 09:34:35 AM
Is it to early to put my name in for next years 5th major?

I'm drinking the Dismal River Kool-Aid in a bad way.
Harris,

I'd love to see you come for the next one. You have to bring your sidekick along as well. He has a fairly substantial bar credit he can cash in when you all arrive...so you've got that going for you! ;D

Eric,

I'm 100% in for next year if invited and I will happily cash in on that bar credit after our first day on the course.

That said, I feel it's important to get one thing straight before we move forward - Harris is MY sidekick, not the other way around!

:D ;)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Eric Smith on July 08, 2011, 11:59:54 AM: Quote from: Matt Bosela on July 08, 2011, 11:56:14 AM
Quote from: Eric Smith on July 08, 2011, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: Harris Nepon on July 08, 2011, 09:34:35 AM
Is it to early to put my name in for next years 5th major?

I'm drinking the Dismal River Kool-Aid in a bad way.
Harris,

I'd love to see you come for the next one. You have to bring your sidekick along as well. He has a fairly substantial bar credit he can cash in when you all arrive...so you've got that going for you! ;D

Eric,

I'm 100% in for next year if invited and I will happily cash in on that bar credit after our first day on the course.

That said, I feel it's important to get one thing straight before we move forward - Harris is MY sidekick, not the other way around!

:D ;)

Fish on! ;D I have you and Harris first on the invite list, after the 14 who attended this year. We're gonna have some fun!
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Brad Isaacs on July 08, 2011, 12:09:24 PM: Chris,
For those of us who actually grew up on a ranch and raised cattle, you don't talk like a cowman.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Chris Johnston on July 08, 2011, 01:35:20 PM: Quote from: Brad Isaacs on July 08, 2011, 12:09:24 PM
Chris,
For those of us who actually grew up on a ranch and raised cattle, you don't talk like a cowman.

Brad - I live in Jackson Hole - cattle out there are very gentrified, well groomed, and mostly hobby cows. ;) Sadly, ranching is mostly dying out our way.

Me? I'm "all hat and no cattle", but am world class at the consumption end of the business. :'( I did participate in my first branding this year and, after the requisite teasing, did receive my initiation and official pen knife! As a result of my inexperience, there are a ton of double branded cattle now in the Sandhills. ::)
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: Dan Herrmann on July 08, 2011, 04:16:20 PM: Eric,
Yep - Laura played Sand Hills and played darn well... Shot a 95 and had a blast - she even parred #17, which may be one of the best par 3's I've ever seen. Our only "issue" at Sand Hills was that we were done in about 3 hours. Could have played again, but we chilled on Ben's Porch, cleaned up, and grabbed a fantastic dinner in the clubhouse.
Title: Re: July 1-3 Outing at Dismal River
Post by: John_Conley on July 08, 2011, 11:31:18 PM: Quote from: Dan Herrmann on July 08, 2011, 04:16:20 PM
Could have played again, but we chilled on Ben's Porch, cleaned up, and grabbed a fantastic dinner in the clubhouse.

Did the server tell you the Special was fish?