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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Buck Wolter on November 11, 2009, 08:12:23 PM
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Take a look at these photos of Tiger's new house-- looks like a 1st Year architecture student's mock up after an all-nighter to me. With an unlimited budget on a $45M lot you build this?
http://www.page2live.com/2009/11/09/is-that-a-new-motel-6-on-jupiter-island-no-its-tiger-woods-new-crib/
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That is UGLY.
But at least he's spent years playing golf courses, not touring homes. If his course in Mexico ever gets done, it might be pretty cool, judging from the plans I've seen.
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Yeah, but you haven't seen the inside yet!
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Yeah, but you haven't seen the inside yet!
As soon as I do I'll post a review. Something tells me I have a better chance of playing ANGC.
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as I often say:
It's not because you have money that you have taste ;D
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It is ugly based on whose standards? It is geometric, for sure, and probably very functional. Many older, elegant houses are nightmares when it comes to heating or, in south Florida's case, air conditioning. Another ridiculous thread that on which I cannot avoid giving my opinion.
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Surprising, actually shocking that he chose this type of architecture. Must come from Elin's contemporary influence. Certainly not in keeping the with Old World style of Palm Beach and Jupiter.
I'm sure the interior will be tastefully done.
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Perhaps Tiger was just trying to pull off his interpretation of the Castle Stuart clubhouse.
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Another ridiculous thread that on which I cannot avoid giving my opinion.
Ridiculous based on whose standards?
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tough crowd to please :D
I would think that once the landscaping is in and there's not 50 work vehicles parked outside the building will look better?
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I'd have thought so too, Matt. Tough to rip it apart when it's half done and not landscaped.
I also find myself agreeing with Ronald. But hey, this thread ain't Robinson Crusoe.
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Examining how the guy who could be the most influential person in Golf Course Design over the next 30 years approaches building something where he has an unlimited budget and complete control seems germaine to the discussions on this website. I would suggest you either have the instinct for design or you don't.
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Buck
his missus could be in control of what the house design, I've seen plenty of blokes who have left house selection, design and fit out entirely to their wives (except where the swimming pool, games room and most importantly bbq and bar fridge are located)
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Buck
his missus could be in control of what the house design, I've seen plenty of blokes who have left house selection, design and fit out entirely to their wives (except where the swimming pool, games room and most importantly bbq and bar fridge are located)
Good point -- my wife will sometimes let me think I have a say in carpet selection or the like eventhough we both know I don't.
The other thing that came to mind was since this place looks like a fortress there's a good chance it is, function over form.
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Something tells me Elin will look good in the house.
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Take a look at these photos of Tiger's new house-- looks like a 1st Year architecture student's mock up after an all-nighter to me. With an unlimited budget on a $45M lot you build this?
http://www.page2live.com/2009/11/09/is-that-a-new-motel-6-on-jupiter-island-no-its-tiger-woods-new-crib/
The article says Elin is calling the shots on the house, not Tiger.
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Examining how the guy who could be the most influential person in Golf Course Design over the next 30 years approaches building something where he has an unlimited budget and complete control seems germaine to the discussions on this website. I would suggest you either have the instinct for design or you don't.
So are you planning to shitcan his first course design halfway through construction as well?
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No-one got modernism in the 1920's... Georgian Dublin was ripped down in the 1960's... It's all trends that change...
Having not seen the inside of that house you can't really comment... But it could be a case of minimalism... which according to this thread is OK in course design but not in building design...
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No-one got modernism in the 1920's... Georgian Dublin was ripped down in the 1960's... It's all trends that change...
Having not seen the inside of that house you can't really comment... But it could be a case of minimalism... which according to this thread is OK in course design but not in building design...
Minimalism does not have to mean boxes with straight lines or straight fairways. Here is an example of an iteresting (to me) minimalist design in Austrailia:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3444500706_2627cc49d2_o.jpg)
Tiger is obviously somewhat of a control freak and he did not let the wife just go wild on a $50 million investment! Maybe he can pick up some ideas after the tournament this weekend!!
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i just wish i had a $50m house for people to critique! ;)
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Of course it doesn't Mike... I was being a little facetious...
But aside from the somewhat mix and match with the roof, Tiger's house does have an element of minimalism about it, does it not?...
All I'm saying is what's ugly to one person might not be to the next...
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Paul Firemans house near TCC Brookline caused a ruckus a few years back as well. That was called a Walmart.
Turned out pretty nice, albeit ridiculously huge.
Let's wait to see it finished.
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My initial reaction is that the utilitarian look (at least during construction) may be driven by the fact that he wants it to withstand any hurricanes that will surely threaten it in the future. Given his frugal reputation, maybe it's driving the design a bit. He could be ahead of the curve for architecture in that part of the country.
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My initial reaction is that the utilitarian look (at least during construction) may be driven by the fact that he wants it to withstand any hurricanes that will surely threaten it in the future. Given his frugal reputation, maybe it's driving the design a bit. He could be ahead of the curve for architecture in that part of the country.
Frugal Doug?
Did you read the article? He spent a record amount just to buy the adjacent lots so he could tear down the houses and build this thing. :D
As for the house itself...I recognize its still a work in process, but as far as I could tell the exterior portion of the house , (not the landscaping obviously), is done. And I must say that is the fugliest "mansion" I've ever seen!!
Now perhaps a feasible explanation is that he just doesn't care because few will ever be in a position to actually see the house due to the surrounding "jungle" on its borders.
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Another ridiculous thread that on which I cannot avoid giving my opinion.
Ridiculous based on whose standards?
I love threads like this.
Tony Offtopic
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Another ridiculous thread that on which I cannot avoid giving my opinion.
Ridiculous based on whose standards?
I love threads like this.
Tony Offtopic
;D
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geometric design looking to replicate and equalize mass on both sides of the home without it being symmetrical. Maybe the design is not in keeping with the "old Florida" design palate of the area, but it certainly is not offensive.
I was disappointed that I did noit see any pink flamingo's on the front lawn - LOL .....maybe when the landscaping is complete.
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Most of my family are architects, and believe me, I've seen much worse...If I had to make an analogy in terms of GCA's, at first glance I'd say this is about a solid Arthur Hills course, or maybe even a Robert Trent Jones. Predictable, solid, but breaks no new ground. Way better than an Arnold Palmer, but not in the same hood as a Doak....
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Looks like the world's most expensive bachelor pad is done -- I stand by my original critique.
(http://dc-cdn.virtacore.com/2010/09/article-1309511-0B0DDA36000005DC-767_634x397-e1283851096777-300x128.jpg)
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Looks like the world's most expensive bachelor pad is done -- I stand by my original critique.
(http://dc-cdn.virtacore.com/2010/09/article-1309511-0B0DDA36000005DC-767_634x397-e1283851096777-300x128.jpg)
That sure is one sweet bachelor pad!
Tiger has a very "unique" style...this fits him perfectly. Where does he play out of in Jupiter?
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Looks like the world's most expensive bachelor pad is done -- I stand by my original critique.
(http://dc-cdn.virtacore.com/2010/09/article-1309511-0B0DDA36000005DC-767_634x397-e1283851096777-300x128.jpg)
Looks better than in the original picture, anyway...
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I heard he took out a $54mm mortgage on the place, perhaps as part of the divorce settlement (Now that's what I call a mortgage payment! At 5% 30 year that equals a monthly nut of $289,883.68!). As for the design, once again proves that money doesn't buy you taste....I actually boated by the place when it was under construction. Great location anyway.....
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Jud,
You're right about that as a monthly nut...except the documents show he'll pay it off in full by January of 2016!!!
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what's up with having a lap pool next to an olympic sized pool?
training temperatures?
cheers
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I'd wait until it's done and landscaped, and then take a look to see how well it works in the context of the site. What would be a better style? Faux French chateau, Bauhaus-ish, Frank Lloyd Wright-ish, grand bungalow, conch, plantation, Mediterranean revival, or whatever. You name it. If I had to classify what it looks like Tiger is doing, I'd say "post-modern." But that covers a lot of ground, and has nothing to do with whether the design is good or bad. In any case, I'd also have to see it in person (though I don't anticipated being invited for a look-see).
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I'd wait until it's done and landscaped, and then take a look to see how well it works in the context of the site. What would be a better style? Faux French chateau, Bauhaus-ish, Frank Lloyd Wright-ish, grand bungalow, conch, plantation, Mediterranean revival, or whatever. You name it. If I had to classify what it looks like Tiger is doing, I'd say "post-modern." But that covers a lot of ground, and has nothing to do with whether the design is good or bad. In any case, I'd also have to see it in person (though I don't anticipated being invited for a look-see).
I am guessing that Elin had a big say in the house. Oh well...
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Just because it is white and has a lot of straight lines does not make it minimalist, in fact that looks about as far from minimalism as you can get.
This would be minimalist:
http://homesoftherich.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Picture-123.png
Neutra's "Windshield House" on Fisher's Island is another great example of a minimalist house and was actually owned by the Fisher's Island Club for a short time. The house is in the NLE category as it burned down in the 70s.
http://www.nbm.org/exhibitions-collections/exhibitions/windshield.html
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Lego land on Jupiter island,,,,is born. Tiger's taste in residential architecture is only surpassed by his taste in bimbos. If Tiger walks away from this, the mortgage holder will have an uber expensive tear down on a great piece of property
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I'd wait until it's done and landscaped, and then take a look to see how well it works in the context of the site. What would be a better style? Faux French chateau, Bauhaus-ish, Frank Lloyd Wright-ish, grand bungalow, conch, plantation, Mediterranean revival, or whatever. You name it. If I had to classify what it looks like Tiger is doing, I'd say "post-modern." But that covers a lot of ground, and has nothing to do with whether the design is good or bad. In any case, I'd also have to see it in person (though I don't anticipated being invited for a look-see).
I am guessing that Elin had a big say in the house. Oh well...
The guest house is finished though... so Grandma Tida is set. More importantly, it's only a mile from the nearest Perkins.
Not that I want to go all People on GCA, it will be interesting to see if Elin relocates to this area of Florida since they have joint legal custody and there are no limits on visitation rights. As far as tearing it down, whoever Tiger unloads that property to (for a healthy loss) should know that area of Florida will be underwater in 30 years time...