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Title: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Bob_Huntley on July 26, 2009, 12:30:17 AM
Having has too many gin and tonics the question arose, what games/sports require going backwards to win?

I came up with swimming/backstroke.

Tug-o-war.

Any sculling event.

Help, what else?

Bob
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John Moore II on July 26, 2009, 12:35:15 AM
Um...well, Tiger sometimes walks backwards when he is trying to will a putt into the hole and Phil has hit some bunker shots over his head backwards; does that count?

Nearly all hockey players skate backwards at least half the time in the games.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Jason Topp on July 26, 2009, 12:36:14 AM
Figure skating is primarily backwards
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 12:38:03 AM
There used to be a roller skating event where skaters would criss-cross weave some cones while skating backward.  Alas, Wide World of Sports isn't so hard up for sports any more.

Good question, but I don't think there are many.  
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Pete_Pittock on July 26, 2009, 12:43:48 AM
The high jump after Dick Fosbury (Oregon State)
Pole climbing/descent (logging roleo)

Italian tank racing?

How can u have too many gin and tonics on a hot day?
Title: Some other questions for you
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 12:56:37 AM
Bob:

What are the two sports you are not allowed to play left-handed?

What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)

Who is the last player to legally throw a spitter in major league baseball?

What hockey rule was implemented because of how Cesar Maniago played?

Which past Senior PGA Tour member won the US Open in another sport?

Which joke's punchline is, "well, you can't bowl 300 and lose."

T/F:  Twins Catcher Joe Mauer was baseball's Gatorade National Player of the Year while in HS
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: John Moore II on July 26, 2009, 01:06:07 AM
What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)

29. Done twice by Neal Lancaster, in 1994 on the front 9 at Oakmont and in 1995 on the back 9 at Shinnecock Hills. I know Neal personally, funny guy.
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 01:14:32 AM
What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)

29. Done twice by Neal Lancaster, in 1994 on the front 9 at Oakmont and in 1995 on the back 9 at Shinnecock Hills. I know Neal personally, funny guy.

Yes.  It is amazing that the low score was matched by the same guy.  And a rank-and-file pro at that.  I think his dad and friends watched him for 63 holes or something and then he finished with a gerat nine to T4 or something after they stopped!
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: John Moore II on July 26, 2009, 01:20:05 AM
What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)
29. Done twice by Neal Lancaster, in 1994 on the front 9 at Oakmont and in 1995 on the back 9 at Shinnecock Hills. I know Neal personally, funny guy.
Yes.  It is amazing that the low score was matched by the same guy.  And a rank-and-file pro at that.  I think his dad and friends watched him for 63 holes or something and then he finished with a gerat nine to T4 or something after they stopped!

I want to say there is more to it than that. In 1994, I want to say he started on #10 that Friday, so he wound up having to shoot the 29 to make the cut by a shot or two. Then in 1995 at Shinnecock he shot the 29 on the back 9 on Sunday to move up a really long ways on the leaderboard. Neal can play as well as anyone when he's on his game. He's a damn good ball striker, but his putting has let him down over the years. Last year I followed him for a few holes at the Rex Open; on the 12th tee I heard him comment he'd hit the first 11 greens in regulation and was even par. I think he wound up shooting -1 or -2 but hit 16 or 17 greens and the ones he missed he was like 2 inches on the fringe within 10-15 feet of the cup. If he could putt and his head was still with him, he could still be a real contender on the tour.
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: Bob_Huntley on July 26, 2009, 01:24:10 AM
Bob:

What are the two sports you are not allowed to play left-handed?

What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)

Who is the last player to legally throw a spitter in major league baseball?

What hockey rule was implemented because of how Cesar Maniago played?

Which past Senior PGA Tour member won the US Open in another sport?

Which joke's punchline is, "well, you can't bowl 300 and lose."

T/F:  Twins Catcher Joe Mauer was baseball's Gatorade National Player of the Year while in HS


I can think of two answers.

Field hockey and Frank Conner.



Bob
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John Moore II on July 26, 2009, 01:28:01 AM
John Conley-Does Soccer count as a sport that can't be played left handed? After all, it isn't played with hands at all ;D
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 01:50:15 AM


I can think of two answers.

Field hockey and Frank Conner.



Bob

Bob, Frank Conner PLAYED IN the U.S. Open for tennis.  He and Ellsworth Vines (I think, maybe it was Bill Tilden) are the only two that competed in the US Open for tennis and golf.  There is a US Open champion in another sport that played the Senior Tour.  Good guess, but no cigar.

I don't know anything about field hockey.  I'd assume you can play L or R like regular hockey.  No?  If field hockey is a good answer then there are three sports.  It is similar to one of them.

John Moore, not one of them.  There are no restrictions on which side you use in soccer.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 26, 2009, 08:54:44 AM
John,
I've lost money on one of them and never been to another: Jai Alai and Polo??
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Cliff Hamm on July 26, 2009, 09:57:26 AM
The Neal Lancaster trivia question has always been one of my favorites and one of the best in all of sports. The fact he did it twice is remarkable.  Simply amazing and done on two of the best US Open venues.  Whenever I ask anyone the question they are amazed at the answer even if they have heard of Neal.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 11:47:25 AM
John,
I've lost money on one of them and never been to another: Jai Alai and Polo??

Very good!

Jai Alai requires that you play with your right hand because a left-hander would have an easier time plucking balls against the side wall and polo is obvious once you think about it.  You can't have colliding horses!
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Anthony Gray on July 26, 2009, 11:58:48 AM


  Mariage


Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Will MacEwen on July 26, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
Arm wrestling
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: C. Squier on July 26, 2009, 12:30:32 PM
Curling?
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Link Walsh on July 26, 2009, 12:41:32 PM
I think the last legal spitball pitcher was Burleigh Grimes.  I think he's in the Hall of Fame. 
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 12:52:26 PM
I think the last legal spitball pitcher was Burleigh Grimes.  I think he's in the Hall of Fame. 

Excellent.  Because throwing pitches with a doctored ball was deemed a skill, each team was allowed to grandfather one player that could continue to throw them for the remainder of his career.  Of those named, nobody outlasted Grimes.
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 12:54:49 PM
A recap so far:

What are the two sports you are not allowed to play left-handed?  Jai Alai and Polo

What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)  Lancaster, did it twice.

Who is the last player to legally throw a spitter in major league baseball?  Burleigh Grimes

What hockey rule was implemented because of how Cesar Maniago played?

Which past Senior PGA Tour member won the US Open in another sport?

Which joke's punchline is, "well, you can't bowl 300 and lose."

T/F:  Twins Catcher Joe Mauer was baseball's Gatorade National Player of the Year while in HS

Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: astavrides on July 26, 2009, 12:58:57 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and, without even doing any internet research, i'm going to say 'false', thinking you're trying to do double reverse psychology on us.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 26, 2009, 01:37:25 PM
John,
One of my members said that Maniago took a bad shot in a game and ever since that time a goalie cannot skate past the Red Line.

Is that it?
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Will MacEwen on July 26, 2009, 02:05:58 PM
John - wasn't Mauer HS Football PotY?

I still say armwrestling meets the no LH criteria.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Pete_Pittock on July 26, 2009, 11:19:25 PM
Jim Stefanich
skating past center ice. He got KOd trying to score on a delayed penalty.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 11:29:08 PM
John,
One of my members said that Maniago took a bad shot in a game and ever since that time a goalie cannot skate past the Red Line.

Is that it?

Yes.  Rather than go to the bench to get an attacker while waiting for the delayed penalty, Maniago went toward the other net!
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 11:30:29 PM
John - wasn't Mauer HS Football PotY?

I still say armwrestling meets the no LH criteria.

Yes.  Joe Mauer was National Player of the Year for Football.

I don't know enough about arm wrestling.  Is there are third sport?  Used to be on TV a bit.  Clive Dean was the man as I recall.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 11:31:23 PM
Jim Stefanich
skating past center ice. He got KOd trying to score on a delayed penalty.

Ding ding ding!

Yes, Jim Stefanich was the US Open champion for bowling.  Later became a member of the Senior Tour.
Title: Re: Some other questions for you
Post by: John_Conley on July 26, 2009, 11:36:01 PM
What are the two sports you are not allowed to play left-handed?  Jai Alai and Polo

What is the low 9-hole score in the US Open?  (And why is this interesting?)  Lancaster, did it twice.

Who is the last player to legally throw a spitter in major league baseball?  Burleigh Grimes

What hockey rule was implemented because of how Cesar Maniago played?  Goalie can't go into play on delayed penalty

Which past Senior PGA Tour member won the US Open in another sport?  Jim Stefanich, bowling

Which joke's punchline is, "well, you can't bowl 300 and lose."  I know this guy, bowled a three hundred and WON!

T/F:  Twins Catcher Joe Mauer was baseball's Gatorade National Player of the Year while in HS  F - Football
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: John Moore II on July 26, 2009, 11:39:18 PM
Wikipedia is the best thing ever. Arm Wrestling is divided into divisions, both weight divisions and right/left hand divisions. Very nice.


And actually, yes, you could bowl a 300 and lose. Your opponent ties you with 300 and you lose in the extra frames.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Eric Smith on July 27, 2009, 12:04:54 AM
Having has too many gin and tonics the question arose, what games/sports require going backwards to win?

I came up with swimming/backstroke.

Tug-o-war.

Any sculling event.

Help, what else?

Bob

After back-peddling all day chasing over head shots, I'll nominate water volleyball played with a beach ball.
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: astavrides on July 27, 2009, 02:21:14 AM
John - wasn't Mauer HS Football PotY?

I still say armwrestling meets the no LH criteria.

Yes.  Joe Mauer was National Player of the Year for Football.

I don't know enough about arm wrestling.  Is there are third sport?  Used to be on TV a bit.  Clive Dean was the man as I recall.


Chalk one up for me, with the 'false' answer in reply #21.

And, one more thing Encyclopedia Brown, you mean Cleve Dean.  ;)
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 28, 2009, 09:06:13 AM
Sir Bob,
I found one more:

(http://onlineathens.com/images/062603/maddox1.jpg)

The sport of backpedaling is centuries old, no one knows exactly when or where (some say Pa.) it first started, but it's practiced on this site quite frequently (especially on the long, long, long threads).
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: JohnV on July 28, 2009, 10:38:26 AM
Sir Bob,
I found one more:

(http://onlineathens.com/images/062603/maddox1.jpg)

The sport of backpedaling is centuries old, no one knows exactly when or where (some say Pa.) it first started, but it's practiced on this site quite frequently (especially on the long, long, long threads).

I believe backpedaling started in Washington DC. ;)
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on July 28, 2009, 10:42:16 AM
JVB,
Seeing as how our first Washington was Philadelphia, I stand pat!  ;)
Title: Re: O/T.. Winning going backwards!
Post by: DMoriarty on July 28, 2009, 10:59:07 AM
Having has too many gin and tonics the question arose, what games/sports require going backwards to win?

I came up with swimming/backstroke.

Tug-o-war.

Any sculling event.

Help, what else?

Bob

Golf at The Old Course when the the golfer played to the nine greens out, then reversed and played back to the same greens in opposite order?