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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Philippe Binette on March 27, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
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Bay Hill: Tough golf course where Tiger can just hang in there and let everybody fall under pressure... you can already count this week as a W for Woods
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OK betting time...
1 000 000 shares of Nortel...
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Sean O'Hair's looking pretty good. Could have been round of the year (so far) if he parred 9.
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Philippe... run away. He's addicted to saying Tiger won't win, and even admits it below. I never received my $2. ;)
"I wasn't saying I thought Tiger would win, but I'd love to take that bet at this point. One shot off the lead is too good to pass up. I'm not a big bankroll guy when it comes to betting."
Tim Bert:
Well, I am, and if you're going to put your money were you mouth is you can't whimp out now. I'll bet you a buck or two at the most!!!
Have we got a bet? You say Tiger wins---I say he doesn't.
You see, I've got a ton of experience in betting in sports and I know how to really evaluate these athletes at any point in time. It's like with the ponies you can pick up a little move here or there in training or whatever and it can tell you a ton and you bet accordingly.
Woods had a good day yesterday but it won't last, basically it can't. I picked up the key as to why yesterday. Whenever he gets up to take his stance he has this new and very odd little move where he quickly slides his right foot back over to his left foot momentarily. This is a real giveaway and a clear indication his entire ACL is burnt toast. He cannot last in this tournament and it may even be the giveaway that indicates the end of his career.
Watch for it today. If he doesn't do it like he did yesterday you might have a chance but if he's still doing it today there's no question I'm gonna own you come Sunday.
How about dinner on me if you ever make it to Nashville and no posting on Merion threads for a month if he wins? Do you have that kind of confidence?
If not, I accept the $2 fallback.
How about dinner on me if you ever make it to Nashville and no posting on Merion threads for a month if he wins? Do you have that kind of confidence?
If not, I accept the $2 fallback.
This was supposed to read "dinner on me if you ever make it to Nashville if he loses and no posting on Merion threads for a month if he wins."
I was a little worried when he fell 3 or 4 back, but what a six hole finish that was. Will you be mailing the check for $2 or driving it down to me? ;)
I'm guessing that since you never responded to my Merion thread challenge that you will be instead opting for the $2?? ;D
Easiest $2 I ever made. ;)
God only knows why I ever assume Tiger Woods won't win. I've done this about a dozen times and I've never been right. What he did this week was different, though, and one for the ages! Even he said in the end that this one topped them all.
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I want my $2...
That's one I haven't heard in a while. Updating my Netflix queue.
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Can you send it priority overnight via Fedex? If it costs more than $2 you can just send an empty envelope.
If you send the $3 bill, do you mind if I make the change in the form of 400 Farthings?
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Seriously this web site is devoted to architecture. Never ending talk about Tiger just puts this web site on even with every other stupid web sites and The Golf Channel in all talk about Tiger.
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PLEASE delete this awful thread!!!
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Are you all being bribed to encourage the deletion of this thread in order to eliminate the record of this $2 debt?
He's paying you 80 cents each, isn't he?
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Ha!
There is NO WAY to defend posting something like this unless you are absolutely going to take ALL bets!
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....now take all bets offline and delete this thread!
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Has anyone ever visited the Yahoo answer site? Go to sports and then golf. Below are the real questions which I cut and pasted. This web site use to have a number of people that really knew stuff about architecture. It is slowly developing into a run of the mill web site with these type of stupid questions.
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MikeW:
No problem. I can't delete the thread but I can delete most of my posts on it.
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OK, who's gonna start demanding the "Food and architects" thread be shut down as well? Equally off-topic.
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Where the thread was suppose to lead is the fact that courses were the field stays around par in the first two days, it seems like all Tiger has to do is to stay there, not play particularily great, then his name is on the leaderboard for the weekend and pressure take care of the other players.
Long straight narrow courses definitely favor Tiger (Firestone, Bay Hill, Medinah)
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Bay Hill: Tough golf course where Tiger can just hang in there and let everybody fall under pressure... you can already count this week as a W for Woods
You said it first.
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It's freaky!
I love to see him win anytime; I can just hardly believe how he does it sometimes. I think I owe somebody a bunch of farthings.
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Good (early) call, Penguin!
I don't know how to effectively lobby for the job exactly, but I'd like to officially nominate myself, here, for president of the Tiger Woods Fan Club.
Unreal.
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Sorry for feeding the OT fire, but I feel lucky to be watching Tiger play.
I feel like I'll be telling stories to my grandchildren about the things we're seeing him do - (and of course I'll have HD Images and sound to back it all up...)
I really enjoy watching him.
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Mickelson wins the Masters.
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Sorry for feeding the OT fire, but I feel lucky to be watching Tiger play.
I feel like I'll be telling stories to my grandchildren about the things we're seeing him do - (and of course I'll have HD Images and sound to back it all up...)
I really enjoy watching him.
Ditto, what a pleasure to have HIM back. I was glued to the TV all day. Such good threater.
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I think the most incredible aspect of Tiger's dramatic wins is the sense of inevitability that comes over everyone at the moment right before he "does it again." My golf team was at a Bojangles in Martinsville, VA watching on TV and we all were musing about the odds of Tiger making it. Even though we pegged the odds at about 3-to-1, I'm pretty sure we all knew deep down that TW wasn't going to miss. Pretty astounding when a 16-footer becomes a gimme for a player.
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Did anyone really think he was going to miss that putt?
With the par save on 15 and the up and down on 16, the bogey on 17 was a surprise. The great iron shot and made putt on 18 were quite reminiscent of last year, same course, same situation.
Welcome back Tiger.
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The only thing painful about being able to watch that awesome finish was having to suffer thru a 5+ hr round by those 3 to get there. Even Johnny Miller was ripping em for taking so damn long especially those last two holes as daylight was running out.
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Long straight narrow courses definitely favor Tiger (Firestone, Bay Hill, Medinah)
Surprising, since Tiger often has trouble finding fairways. I guess the penalty for missing is not that great.
Courses like TOC seem to favor Tiger as well. So do courses like Augusta, Hoylake, Pebble, Bethpage and Southern Hills. I'm not sure what courses don't favor him.
Remarkable stat: Tiger only hit 54% GIR this week. Tied for 50th. He did not drive the ball especially long (283) or accurate (60%). Everyone else in the top 10 hit more fairways and greens. But he scrambled at 75%, and came in 2nd in average putts/round.
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Long straight narrow courses definitely favor Tiger (Firestone, Bay Hill, Medinah)
Surprising, since Tiger often has trouble finding fairways. I guess the penalty for missing is not that great.
Courses like TOC seem to favor Tiger as well. So do courses like Augusta, Hoylake, Pebble, Bethpage and Southern Hills. I'm not sure what courses don't favor him.
Remarkable stat: Tiger only hit 54% GIR this week. Tied for 50th. He did not drive the ball especially long (283) or accurate (60%). Everyone else in the top 10 hit more fairways and greens. But he scrambled at 75%, and came in 2nd in average putts/round.
Riviera and the Kikuya...thats his kryptonite!
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Is the unauthorized biography of Tiger to be titled, 'splender in the grass' or 'victory in the gloaming'?
Somebody ought to do a study on Tiger's solunar feeding time. It seems he devours competitors whenever the light is waning. He is absolutely crepuscular! How's that Dan?
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Kalen, oddly enough, Nicklaus never won there either. For those who say a course's quality is proven by its champions, Riviera must be pretty poor!
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Pretty damn good call Philippe!
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"Did anyone really think he was going to miss that putt?"
Bill McB:
Sure I did. I've been around a long time and I've seen all the greatest golfers of the last half century thoughout that time and stuff like this just never happened with anything close to the regularity of Tiger Woods. Sure they all may've made putts like that a time or two in situations like that which became their career highlights but Woods has done this kind of thing about ten times more in around 13 years then all the rest of them combined in their total careers. I've never put much stock in weird fate but this guy is beginning to make me rethink that.
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I'm not Tiger's biggest fan... I just look at that situation and thought: this is going to happen again...
I don't think O'hair played badly, he just could not make the killer shot... Birdie putt at 14th, with O'hair missing it, Tiger grinded harder, made the par putt the rest is history...
Hat off to O'hair, more experienced players have done a lot worse than him against Tiger
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I'm not Tiger's biggest fan...
I am.
But from those who haven't accepted Tiger as their personal lord and savior, can I get an "amen, brother" for yet another remarkable performance under pressure?
Yes, O'Hair opened the door for him, particularly with that shot into the water. But doors are opened for all athletes on a regular basis; I just find it compelling to watch Tiger walk through the door yet again.
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"Did anyone really think he was going to miss that putt?"
Bill McB:
Sure I did. I've been around a long time and I've seen all the greatest golfers of the last half century thoughout that time and stuff like this just never happened with anything close to the regularity of Tiger Woods. Sure they all may've made putts like that a time or two in situations like that which became their career highlights but Woods has done this kind of thing about ten times more in around 13 years then all the rest of them combined in their total careers. I've never put much stock in weird fate but this guy is beginning to make me rethink that.
Tom, I was thinking about just 12 months earlier when he did the same thing. This was an easier putt. I'm no kid myself at 67 and I've never seen the like of this guy with his ability to come through. Even the great Jack missed one every now and then. This was the third time Tiger won at Bay Hill with an 18th hole birdie.
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Long straight narrow courses definitely favor Tiger (Firestone, Bay Hill, Medinah)
Surprising, since Tiger often has trouble finding fairways. I guess the penalty for missing is not that great.
Courses like TOC seem to favor Tiger as well. So do courses like Augusta, Hoylake, Pebble, Bethpage and Southern Hills. I'm not sure what courses don't favor him.
Remarkable stat: Tiger only hit 54% GIR this week. Tied for 50th. He did not drive the ball especially long (283) or accurate (60%). Everyone else in the top 10 hit more fairways and greens. But he scrambled at 75%, and came in 2nd in average putts/round.
I guess we're all wondering how the new groves, when, 2010, are going to change things for Tiger. I'm thinking he'll figure out how to deal with.
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I guess we're all wondering how the new groves, when, 2010, are going to change things for Tiger. I'm thinking he'll figure out how to deal with.
I think it will have a minor effect, but in the end it will help Tiger.
Any change that lessens the impact of technology, and increases the premium on skill and shotmaking, is good for Tiger.
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Agreed...watching paint dry might be quicker...but it was still incredible theater.
The only thing painful about being able to watch that awesome finish was having to suffer thru a 5+ hr round by those 3 to get there. Even Johnny Miller was ripping em for taking so damn long especially those last two holes as daylight was running out.