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Title: What's worse?
Post by: Jim Johnson on January 27, 2005, 08:39:03 PM
Rick Shefchik's post today got me thinking...what's worse?
Playing an opening hole which heads east, straining your eyes to follow the ball against the rising sun...or, finishing on eighteen heading west, straining to keep your eyes on the ball in the setting sun?
JJ
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Steve Lang on January 27, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
 8)

neither, keep your head down and don't peek!
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Brent Hutto on January 27, 2005, 09:20:41 PM
Well, depending on where you were and what you were doing two hours earlier that rising sun can be a bitch.
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Doug Siebert on January 27, 2005, 11:23:46 PM
The only times I've EVER played when the sun is rising is when I've been up all night and just went straight to the course without sleep.  I'm definitely not a morning person.  8:30am is a really damn early tee time for me ;)
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Evan Fleisher on January 28, 2005, 08:44:14 AM
They are probably equally as bad, IMO.

Doug...wimp!!! ;-)  Our normal tee time on Sunday mornings is 7:10am and we are off the course by 10:15 or so.  You'd be hurting, dude.
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: TEPaul on January 28, 2005, 09:01:48 AM
The best thing to do is what happened to me some years ago in the Westhamption Member/Guest. I'd never played in the tournament before and I was informed before the tournament began by a member of the tournament committee that it was the second largest field for a member guest in the nation.

I remember asking him;

"Oh yeah, what does that mean?"

And he said to me;

"That means since you're first off tomorrow your tee time is 5:47am! Do you mind?"

I thought about that for a minute and said:

"Of course I don't mind. I'm a farmer and I get up well before the sun anyway and a 5:47am tee time is something I can tell my grandchildren about since although I've played in a thousand golf tournaments with early starting times I've never, in my memory, teed off in the 6 o'clock hour".

So we went off at 5:47 the next day. Although the sun didn't actually rise above the horizon for about half an hour we could see fine---and we were done and back home around 9am!  :)
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Michael Moore on January 28, 2005, 09:05:51 AM
The evening sun may disappear by the next hole.

The morning sun may still be in your eyes on the next hole.

Q.E.D.
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Zack Kelly on January 28, 2005, 09:24:13 AM
I much rather tee off into the sun, if you lose the first few holes that is easily overcomed, but presses usually conclude on the 18th sun in your eyes then is not a good thing.  I'm a feel player and sun behinf the green throws off my depth perception which could cost me big at the end of a round.
Title: Re:What's worse?
Post by: Jari Rasinkangas on January 28, 2005, 11:01:57 AM
Here in northern Finland the morning sun rises so early that I doubt I'll never be teeing off so early.  In midsummer it rises at 2.18 am at my home course and the direction is somewhere between north and north east!

The sunset is at 0.21 am so what the hell just play the whole night through.  ;D