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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture Discussion Group => Topic started by: Nick Pozaric on December 31, 2004, 10:04:05 PM
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After seeing the Pasatiempo logo for the first time the other day it got me thinking what my favorite course logo is. What is your fav and PLEASE post an example of it for those who arent familar with many of the logos.
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I like Friar's Head's logo
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We've covered this in the past and some really good ones came up. If you can't find it in the archives I'm sure people will chime in. One of my favorites is Yale GC, its a bulldog holding a driver in his teeth. I like the fact that it doesn't spell out what course it is (there is a Y on the side of the dog though). Noel Freeman found a really cool one from Perranporth over in England that looks like the grim reaper.
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Doesn't Friar's Head logo look like a yacht club logo, with some flags?
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well, Donnie, I like yours ...... Fishers Island
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merion
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I like Sunnybrook's---it's probably the smallest I've ever seen. Actually, I just noticed what PVGC's was---a simple shield with a pine tree emblazoned on it. How ironic! ;)
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redanman:
One thing you should know about PVGC is that it does not have a grillroom. It doesn't have a "signature hole" either! ;)
However, this is not to say the club's clever promoter, George Crump, did not partake in some very clever former day hype. He certainly did allow and apparently encourage others to say and write that 'no expense' would be spared on the golf course (the best and most effective "hype" in the old days). He certainly did promote and probably arrange for some of the most comprehensive architectural collaboration the world of architecture has ever known, or at least the certain appearance of it---a technique that clearly proved incredibly effective in perception and he also may've promoted the idea that he hired one of the most well-known architects in the world at that time to design his course for him for which he paid that architect a huge sum of money for that time. Did he really do that? Who knows! It may've just been more clever hype on his part!
Just watch Turner and MacWood start screaming that even the thought of such a thing is akin to calling Harry Colt a liar and denigrating his memory and everything else that's truly sacred in architecture! ;)
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But in fairness and so as not to regenerate old arguments, my sense is Crump probably did pay Colt what Bole said he did in 1913 but that from there Crump continued for the next five years to just do his own thing. The fascinating point is, though, Crump himself never seemed to try to take credit for what he did, he seemed to be content to let others take credit for any number of things, such as Travis in his articles that Crump agreed to have him create a reverse routing on the course! That never happened! In a sense he seemed willing to "hold the con" until in the end others couldn't help but miss what really went on down there and by whom! ;)
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"(what the f**k does HE know?)"
redanman:
That's not a bad question. Was Frederick Hawtree at PVGC at any time between 1912 and 1918 to actually see who did what?
What Hawtree said about Colt's contribution is probably another good example of depending too much on the printed word that never fit into a proper timeline. Colt himself said that he had the honour of laying out PVGC. But one might logically ask when Colt said and wrote that? Simon Carr (one of Crump's best friends) wrote a comprehensive article in GOLF ILLUSTRATED giving Colt a great deal of credit for PVGC but again, one might logically ask when Carr wrote that? And one needs to also logically ask why the things Carr wrote in 1918 were so different? It doesn't take a genius to figure out the answer to these questions. It's because a whole lot of things happened during those YEARS AFTER those things were written!
;)
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redanman:
Somewhere in the far back pages or the archives of this website is a post by you some years ago regarding PVGC where you said you'd be willing to go down to PVGC and point out to them what specifcally was Colt in their architecture!! I find that remark to be incredibly hilarious. I guess you could probably go down there and try to tell them something like that but any reasonable mind should also tell them to take information like that from you for what it's worth! :)
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After seeing the Pasatiempo logo for the first time the other day it got me thinking what my favorite course logo is. What is your fav and PLEASE post an example of it for those who arent familar with many of the logos.
Secession.
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Sankaty Head. An image and nothing else. No writing, shields, fanciful curlicues or place names.
The simpler the better.
Burning Tree's ain't bad.
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Newport is another one of my favorites
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I like this new one:
(http://smartsites.legendarymarketing.com/site_images/216/logo.gif)
, the Sand Hills brand and the yucca at Praire Dunes (minus the excess)
(http://www.uswomensopen.com/2002/images/wohead_03.jpg)
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I might be a little biased...
(http://www.iserv.net/~quistj/achead.jpg)
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Chechessee Creek...on clothing only the feather is used. (Note the golf flag superimposed in the feather). IMHO understated and tasteful.
http://www.chechesseecreekclub.com/index.html
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I agree with: the simpler the better.
In fact, Jim - Angels Crossing's logo would be super cool, in my opinion, if you lost all of the words surrounding that elegant sketch of the angel. I'd buy a shirt or hat or wind shirt with that on it.
Just a thought :)
Maidstone's rudimentary whale (looks like a cartoon of Moby Dick!) blowing water with the club's founding date under it - and nothing else - is pretty cool.
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Jeff,
That is precisely what we do an about 75% of our logo items. Great minds, eh? In fact, our clothing vendors refer to it, just the icon on a garment, as "girlfriend" only.
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Friar's Head is the best.
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;) One "classic" logo that seems to get lost in the mix is the design for Desert Forest Golf Club. Though is looks like something created in Microsoft Works, for some reason I think it's a great logo... Can't explain, but it works!!!
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Interesting that PV's logo clothing in the pro shop has the name and logo for guests and just the logo for members
here are some of my favorites -including some that have been mentioned already):
Merion
Fishers Island
Lahinch - the goat
The Country Club in Brookline - the squirrel logo
Yale
Chicago Golf Club -love the motto- "Far and Sure"
Friars Head
The Atlantic City CC - the Bell which matches the tee blocks
The Creek Club - the bird
Philadelphia Country Club - the horse
Walton Heath - the heather
Southampton- nice coat of arms
Sleepy Hollow - the headless horseman
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Gerry - You ever notice how similar the logos are for The Creek and Machrihanish?
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In no particular order:
Tain - The Monk - similar to St Andrews
Crail - A sailing vessel.
Royal St Georges - St George Slaying the Dragon.
Royal Liverpool - The Liver bird plus the motto "Far and Sure"
Lahinch - The goats
Kingsbarns - Crown
Royal Dornoch - A Tiger? with and upturned horseshoe (Isn't this a sign of bad luck)
County Sligo - Tower, Rabbit, tree blown sideways with Benbulben? in the background
Kilmore my current home club has the Kookaburra (A Kingfisher). For those non-australian posters this bird has a distinctive cry. Actually a very load laugh. Lovely to hear just as you shank one on the 5th, where about 5 of the birds reside.
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SBDB:
Do not remember the Macrihanish Logo but various renditions the Indian Head Logo has been used by such courses in the northeast as:
Shinnecock, Aronomink, Philly Cricket, Siwanoy, North Shore, Seawane, Indian Island, Shackamaxon, Mt. Kisco, plus it is used at Seminole as well.
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Funny, but the indian logo at some clubs is better than at others. I particularly like Seminole's indian logo.
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Interestingly, Muirfield (HCEG) doesn't have a logo or merchandise. I got a ballmark, I think from a small help yourself honor system room at Greywalls. I also believe some of the shops in Gullane sell similar things with an 18th century golfer in sillouette.
Are there other clubs without a logo?
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R&A apparell and equipment is only sold to members.
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I really like ANGC. Although it suffers from over exposure.
As mentioned previously Burning Tree which is a evergreen on fire.
(http://www.doonbeggolfclub.com/images/logo.jpg)
(http://goldenhorseshoegolf.com//images/logo.gif)
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I'm partial to the wimsy of Stonewall's cow head with the golf club through it!
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Dunes (Michigan)
Secession
Honors
LA CC
Merion
Chechessee (the feather w/ flagstick as feather's spine)
Lookout Mountain
Palmetto GC
Creek Club
Machrihanish (oyster catcher)
ANGC (members logo which is not often seen by me other than in April)
R&A (members logo)
The simplier the better, with preference for no writing, is my cup of tee.
Plus others to be added later after looking through shirts in Hostilo's closet.
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I would have to say that MErion would have to be my favorite, although I'm very fond of Pinehurst and Pine VAlley, Seminole's not bad either
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Far and away the best logo around is Merion's.
I like the logo's you see that you have no idea what course it's from. No name, no tag line.
What does the ANGC members logo look like? I take it it's different than the unbiqutous yellow america/green flag.
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Winged Foot and Merion are both great simple and to the point but for true understated cool Newport is tough to beat.
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Seeing the above logo reminded me of my new favorite logo
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i also like a logo with no name of the club -ala merion, fishers, friars head
add the philly country club logo to the list - the horse
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John,
Are you referring to the attached as opposed to the TV version that has the USA yellow? The patch below is currently for sale on Ebay for those of you desiring your own ANGC jacket.
(http://i23.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/20/fb/50_1_b.JPG)
(http://www.masters.org/images/pics/large/b_0411_019.jpg)
The TV version
(http://www.masters.org/images/nav/top/m010000g1.gif)
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Merion is my favorite logo of all. We have Bill Kittleman to thank for it.
I like the simplicity of the scallop shell of Kittansett and Panmure.
Prestwick's is a classic with its crossed clubs and 3 balls.
Gulph Mills with the Drexel Paul Cup and club is, like the club itself, an understated but elegant design.
I agree with an earlier post that Newport CC has a terrific logo.
I also like:
Friar's Head
Sand Hills
Swinley Forest
Winged Foot
Brookline's squirrel
Royal St. George's with the dragon being slayed by St. George
Bill V: I still do not believe that the HCEG have an official logo. They have a nicely stylized monogram on one of their keep out signs, but I think that is all.
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Wayne - You're right, the Muirfield logo (or inscription) is simply a wildly cursive "HCEG"
It appears on the letterhead of this declaration:
(http://www.scottishgolfhistory.net/images/LeithLinksplaque01.JPG)
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Essex County (Ma) old red ships
Kirtland charming frieze of people playing golf, tennis etc
Maidstone whale
Salem broom rider
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we can add another Indian Head logo to the list- Kanawaki in Montreal where the movie version of the book "The Greatest Game Ever Played was recently shot
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I agree with the sentiments earlier, a perfect example from my tag:
(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/3427953523232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D%3A%3A%3C%3D529%3DXROQDF%3E23237394338%3A6ot1lsi)
Here is another simple logo:
(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/3427953523232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D%3A%3A%3C%3D529%3DXROQDF%3E2323698%3C%3B6%3A92ot1lsi)
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I must agree with Lahinch. I played there on Christmas Eve -around 40 degrees,40+mph winds,occasional sleet and rain. The sight of two goats looking out from the shelter set in the dunes as if to say "What are you crazy?" was a living,breathing version of a logo.
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(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/3427992%3B23232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E7%3C8%3E44%3B%3EWSNRCG%3D323282%3A5828%3B4nu0mrj)
From my recently re-titled "Monogram" Ball Collection
Not close enough to be a "logo" :'(
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I believe Perranporth has the best logo from the UK.
My home course Deal has this logo..
(http://www.villagenet.co.uk/history/cinqueports.gif)
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Merion, Stonewall, Winged Foot, Baltusrol and............Badlands in Las Vegas :)
www.badlandsgc.com
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Who's the figure in black?
(http://www.perranporthgolfclub.com/img0.jpg)
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I like both the NGLA and Cypress logoes.
So there, Dave.
;D
The less related to golf the logo is and the less verbiage it has, the better I seem to like it.
So Merion works for me also.
TH
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I like this one, but what kind of flower is it?
(http://www.dcclub.co.za/images/dclogofp.gif)
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K Durrant
The ghostly figure on the Perranporth logo could be The Grim Reaper, but the cross makes me think it could also be St. Cristopher.
All this talk of Merion. Does anybody have an image of the logo?
Ciao
Sean
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Is it a Gloriosa... Flame Lily?
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Sean,
Here's the Merion Logo
(http://www.gapgolf.org/i/merion.jpg)
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Re: Perranporth
That is a Saint on the logo--I asked when I was there.. but with his cross at that angle, it looks like the grim reaper coming to collect!
Also it is a fish on the bottom, but on my logo it is a shark! i like it with the shark!
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Is it a Gloriosa... Flame Lily?
Either way, it sounds like a stripper!
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Personally, I think the Medinah logo would be pretty damn cool if they dropped all the wording and the surrounds and just used the sword and the moon/star-thing. That would look great on a shirt.
Absolute concurrence. The more a logo has to be figured out and the lightbulb goes on when you get it, the more I like it also. Medinah's would be world-class sans verbiage.
TH
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Welcome to Golf Club Advertising.Com. We're living La Vida Logo now. I like any logo that adds an "e" on the end of a word, like Pointe, or uses the word "Experience" or has a preposition in it. "The Experience at the Pointe Club". Images with at least three colors, more are better (don't worry about the price of reproduction, we can always cut maintenance) and lets make sure we pay a lot of money every three or four years to change it in order to drive hat and shirt sales.
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One of my favorite's: Royal Dornoch
(http://www.royaldornoch.com/graphics/newlogo.gif)
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Has the Friar's Head Logo been posted?
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Bob, my guess is that DCC is a (dwarf) Coral Tree (Erythrina humeana):
(http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantefg/plimagesefg/erythrinlystemflower.jpg)
(http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantefg/plimagesefg/erythrinahum.jpg)
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J Slonis
Thanks! I like the Dornoch members' logo as well. For the tourists the logo is very different. Royal Birkdale's logo is also quite good. North Berwick's is also good. Still, none of these touch Hockley. Does anybody have an image of this logo?
Ciao
Sean
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Sean,
I agree. The RD logo on the apparel in the Pro Shop wasn't very good. Although they did have a Ping Stand Bag that just had the logo on it that I posted. My friend bought one during our trip, it's a great looking bag.
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Although I don't have a pix of any of them, the logos of
Royal County Down ....the lyre
Sand Hills ...just so simple with a slanted SH
Roaring Fork Club ...a golfer's backswing morphing into a
flycast
Royal Melbourne ...a simple royal wing & crest
PS...Shivas...How does the Friars Head logo look like the scottish broom of Merion????? What kind of mid-winter drugs have you got out there? Can I get some?
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Surprised no one posted this link:
http://www.smarterproducts.com/USTop100.htm (http://www.smarterproducts.com/USTop100.htm)
http://www.smarterproducts.com/WorldTop1002001.htm (http://www.smarterproducts.com/WorldTop1002001.htm)
Lots of logos on balls. Someone posted it awhile back - I forgot who but I did remember to bookmark the page.
I'm partial to Fishers and Baltusrol. Most of the overseas ones are pretty cool as well.
Did they remove the love grass on the Merion logo a few years back, and then did it make a comeback? ;D
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J
I was lucky to find a head cover with the proper logo. I had just lost one and the pro offered the one I bought. This is part of an interesting story because as I was buying the cover, M. Jordan walked in with a load of people. They were clearing the shelves. M.J. just wanted a bottle of water. He didn't have Sterling so his caddy footed the bill. I am sure the caddy was generously rewarded after the round.
Ciao
Sean
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Los Angeles Country Club's logo is simple and perfect.
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Los Angeles Country Club's logo is simple and perfect.
Concur. And on the course it also uses the cool dual flags Friar's Head has latched on to.... doesn't it?
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For my friend Wayne:
Where is the line between "monogram" and "logo"? ;)
(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/34279%3B4723232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E7%3C8%3E44%3B%3EWSNRCG%3D323282%3A8%3A26%3B%3Cnu0mrj)
-Hudson National (Faz) for JakaB
-Rolling Green (Flynn) for Wayne and Mayday
-Huntsville (Rees) for Mucci
-Lehigh (Flynn) for Mark Fine and me
-Toronto (Colt) for Ian, Rob, Ben, Mark and Paul
-Skokie for His Royal Shivas
Here's a color Friar's Head
(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/34279%3B4723232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E232%3B%3D8%3B9%3D53%3C%3DXROQDF%3E232373999%3A6%3C7ot1lsi)
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burning tree
seminole
friar's head
secession
garden city
merion
wade hampton
pine valley
adios
indian creek
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Salem CC is a Witch on a Broomstick..?
...how can you beat that :D
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Friar's Head looks like it came from the yacht club. Used at sea the signal flags would mean:
Top flag: "I'm disabled communicate with me"
Bottom flag: "I have a pilot on board" (meaning harbor pilot)
Does the flag pattern mean anything to Friar's Head?
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Bill: I know as much about nautical flags as I do about Lithuanian poets (meaning, nothing), but I do recall others here explaining that in some form of flag usage, the top flag was a F and the bottom was an H. Does that ring any bells?
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Tom,
You are correct. I should've figured that one out.
http://www.marinewaypoints.com/learn/flags/flags.shtml
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Huck,
I'm surprised you haven't read the works of the Lithuanian poets...Mercelijus Martinaitis or Jonas Aistas. :o
That's okay, my Grandfather's ancestors were Lithuanian, and I've never even heard of a Lithuanian poet until my "Google" search a minute ago. ;D
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Huck,
I'm surprised you haven't read the works of the Lithuanian poets...Mercelijus Martinaitis or Jonas Aistas. :o
That's okay, my Grandfather's ancestors were Lithuanian, and I've never even heard of a Lithuanian poet until my "Google" search a minute ago. ;D
Absolutely classic... I am dying. ;D ;D ;D
And this also proves that google can find one ANYTHING.
BTW, Sarunas Marciolonus and Arvidas Sabonis (sp?) were damn fine basketball players. Long live Lithuania!!!
And Bill, thanks for finding that. I get a lot of things wrong in my recollections but I had to figure I had some part of that correct.
;D
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I like Saucon Valley's--simple, yet understated.
I can't seem to copy it, so check out the following link:
www.sauconvalleycc.org
From what I have heard, course information (with some photos) will be included at some point this year after they work out some unfortunate employment litigation.
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Los Angeles Country Club's logo is simple and perfect.
Concur. And on the course it also uses the cool dual flags Friar's Head has latched on to.... doesn't it?
Nope, it's a single flag, but it is "pennant" style, like the dual Friar's Head logo...
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Tlavin - aha! Many thanks. At least I got the shape correct. That struck me as pretty neat, unique.
TH
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I labeled the six above for those that don't know them, too
(http://images.mysticcolorlab.com/3427%3A82%3B23232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D323%3A%3E7%3C8%3E44%3B%3EWSNRCG%3D323282%3C64657%3Cnu0mrj)
Which is it?
(http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forums2/YaBBImages/thumbup.gif)
or
(http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forums2/YaBBImages/thumbdown.gif)
(I always found the style of this script (font) really creepy)
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Guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder - I like both Shinnecock's & Pasatiempo's logos.
Saucon Valley's is okay - not great, not terrible, IMHO. I give it a thumb sideways, maybe slightly up. :)
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Is the Pasatiempo figure a banana slug? Which if it is makes it kind of cool. Having just driven 95 through the Carolinas it kind of reminds me of Pedro on the South of the Border billboards.
The really goofy ones are the new American clubs that have a crest that look like it came from some UK club that is a hundred years old. I guess imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I really don't care for crests even at old clubs.
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Enniscrone, Turnberry, Carnasty and Carne have terrible logos! The Island's and St. Andrews aren't very good either. The Shinnecock logo is ok, but Dave is right about Pasatiempo.
I don't care for Merion's. I am sure this will wind some of you boys up. The grass stuff in the background is silly.
Ciao
Sean
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PasaT is a guy in a Serape and a Sombrero under a Palm Tree of which there are many at Pasa. ;)
There are many Palm Trees closer to the beach ...
(http://www.pasatiempo.com/home/themes/Chama/images/logo.gif)
(http://www.beachboardwalk.com/images/homepage/home_bwLogo.gif)
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UC at Santa Cruz are the Banana Slugs. It looks kind of like a slug.
(http://www.slugweb.com/slugweb/_images/MainSlugRight.gif)
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Royal Dornoch - A Tiger? with and upturned horseshoe (Isn't this a sign of bad luck)
Sean
It's a Highland wild cat, and the horseshoe represents a medieval battle between the raping and pillaging Norsemen which turned when one of the locals ripped a shoe off of his horse and slew the Chief Pillager with it.
Cheers
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Rich,
Thanks for the info. Great legend.
What's the story behind the monk from Tain?
Also I agree with the description of enniscrone's logo. For such a good course a poor logo.
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Rich,
Thanks for the info. Great legend.
What's the story behind the monk from Tain?
Also I agree with the description of enniscrone's logo. For such a good course a poor logo.
Sean
My guess is the Tain logo is St. Duthus, the local holy guy, but I could be wrong.....
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(http://www.suttonbay.com/media/page_templates/content_logo.gif)
I'm fond of the Sutton Bay logo -- except, well, I don't know, maybe it's a little too ... one-dimensional to be considered one of the classics. Granted, the horns provide some interesting multi-directionality -- but the rest of it might be a little too much up-and-down, don't you think? ::)
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(http://www.suttonbay.com/media/page_templates/content_logo.gif)
I'm fond of the Sutton Bay logo -- except, well, I don't know, maybe it's a little too ... one-dimensional to be considered one of the classics. Granted, the horns provide some interesting multi-directionality -- but the rest of it might be a little too much up-and-down, don't you think? ::)
Looks alot like the Tobacco Road logo
(http://tobaccoroadgolf.com/Images/TR-MainHeader5.jpg)
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More than one of the Strantz courses incorporate the skull.
(http://www.mikestrantzdesign.com/StrantzLogos/bblogo.gif)
Bull's Bay
Just for Dave: The Pasatiempo logo seems to fit with the name of the club. Isn't this word spanish for "passing the time." I could be wrong.
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This subject came up here a year or two ago. Somebody discovered this website:
Logo Golf Ball Collections (http://www.smarterproducts.com/usopenballs.htm)
Here is a sample from the site:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~neilregan/golf%20logo%20balls%20Top%20100%20US%201%20to%2015%20900%20x%20549%20LEVEL%203.jpg)