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David_Tepper

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LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« on: January 15, 2004, 02:10:07 PM »
The Jan/Feb issue of LINKS magazine has several articles of interest.  There are articles (with nice pictures) on Rosapenna Golf Links in Ireland and Seth Raynor's Mountain Lake course in Florida.

There is also mention of a website devoted to gca & the ASGCA:

http://golfarchitects.lib.msu.edu

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2004, 02:25:40 PM »
Don't forget there's also the Geoff Shackelford article on the lost personal golf course of the old Hollywood silent screen legend (name escapes me) and mention of other old time Hollywood golf and golfers.

Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2004, 02:28:11 PM »
the old Hollywood silent screen legend (name escapes me)

Mr. Popular Culture is not allowed to have names escape!

Fairbanks?

Valentino?

Louise Brooks?
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2004, 02:31:54 PM »
Dan,

None of them, but I do remember them mentioning he was the wealthiest actor of his time.  Maybe 'legendary' isn't the right word.  Maybe it was after the 'talkies' came out?  I don't remember for sure.  Wasn't Chaplin, either.

Since ending AOTD, my brain is suffering from pop culture atrophy.  Actually, the silent era isn't a strong point.

THuckaby2

Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2004, 02:33:48 PM »
jeez, it's sad but I just read this two days ago and the guy's name escapes me also.  It sure wasn't anyone I had heard of - he pre-dated Charlie Chaplin.  In any case he built a backyard course that sounded very cool... and it was there until the early 70s, less than five miles from where I lived at the time.  Of course I never knew about it.

What's even sadder (to me) is I read that whole article, enjoyed it, never even looked to see who the author was.  Sucks for you writers, doesn't it?

More great work by young Geoff.

TH

RJ_Daley

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2004, 02:41:15 PM »
Are you referring to El Caballero, built on the edge of Edgar Rice Burroughs, (Tarzana) a course hearlded by Grantland Rice, and featured in Dan Wexler's book, "Missing Links"?  Are all those Burroughs', and Rice's kissing cousins?  How did you miss this one Scott?
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THuckaby2

Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2004, 02:43:23 PM »
Dick - nope, that's not it.  That course did exist, as detailed so well in Wexler's book.

This really was a backyard course... it had a cool name that also escapes me now.  Man senility is setting in.

TH

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2004, 02:46:01 PM »
I think the article said it was 5 holes that could be played different ways like 15 holes.

Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2004, 02:48:22 PM »
Man senility is setting in.

Stop the presses!  :P
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Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2004, 02:52:12 PM »
Harold Lloyd? Buster Keaton? Gloria Swanson?
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THuckaby2

Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2004, 02:55:24 PM »
Harold Lloyd?

THAT'S IT!
And whatever the hell is most successful film was, that's what he named the course.  Not "The Freshman", but after that.


Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2004, 02:59:06 PM »
"Safety Last"?

His filmography, from www.imdb.com:

Sin of Harold Diddlebock, The (1947) .... Harold Diddlebock
... aka Mad Wednesday (1950) (USA: reissue title)


Professor Beware (1938) .... Prof. Dean Lambert
Milky Way, The (1936) .... Burleigh 'Tiger' Sullivan
Cat's-Paw, The (1934) .... Ezekiel Cobb
Stout Hearts and Willing Hands (1932)
Movie Crazy (1932) .... Harold Hall aka Trouble
Feet First (1930) .... Harold Horne


Welcome Danger (1929) .... Harold Bledsoe
Speedy (1928) .... Harold 'Speedy' Swift
Kid Brother, The (1927) .... Harold Hickory
For Heaven's Sake (1926) .... J. Harold Manners aka Uptown Boy
Ben-Hur (1925) (uncredited) .... Crowd extra in chariot race
... aka Ben-Hur: A Tale of the Christ (1925)
Freshman, The (1925) .... Harold 'Speedy' Lamb
... aka College Days (1925) (UK)
Hot Water (1924) .... Hubby
Girl Shy (1924) .... Harold Meadows
Why Worry? (1923) .... Harold Van Pelham
Safety Last! (1923) .... Harold Lloyd
Doctor Jack (1922) .... Dr. Jackson of Magnolia Meadows
... aka Dr. Jack (1922)
Grandma's Boy (1922) .... Sonny, The Boy/Granddaddy
Sailor-Made Man, A (1921) .... The Boy
Never Weaken (1921) .... The Boy
I Do (1921) .... The Boy
Among Those Present (1921) .... O'Reilly, The Boy
Now or Never (1921) .... The Boy
Number, Please? (1920) .... The Boy
Get Out and Get Under (1920) .... The Boy
High and Dizzy (1920) .... The Boy
Eastern Westerner, An (1920) .... The Boy
Haunted Spooks (1920) .... The Boy
His Royal Slyness (1920) .... The American Boy


From Hand to Mouth (1919) .... The Boy
Captain Kidd's Kids (1919) .... The Boy
His Only Father (1919)
Bumping Into Broadway (1919) .... The Boy
Pay Your Dues (1919)
Count the Votes (1919)
Soft Money (1919)
He Leads, Others Follow (1919)
Rajah, The (1919)
Don't Shove (1919) .... Harold
Heap Big Chief (1919)
Be My Wife (1919)
Chop Suey & Co. (1919)
Count Your Change (1919)
Jazzed Honeymoon, A (1919)
Never Touched Me (1919)
At the Old Stage Door (1919)
Just Neighbors (1919) .... The Boy
Billy Blazes, Esq. (1919)
Spring Fever (1919)
Off the Trolley (1919)
Swat the Crook (1919)
Pistols for Breakfast (1919)
Marathon, The (1919)
Before Breakfast (1919/I)
Si, Senor (1919)
Ring Up the Curtain (1919) .... The Stage Hand
Crack Your Heels (1919)
Young Mr. Jazz (1919)
Just Dropped In (1919)
Sammy In Siberia, A (1919)
Next Aisle Over (1919)
Dutiful Dub, The (1919)
Look Out Below (1919) .... The Boy
I'm on My Way (1919)
On the Fire (1919) .... The Chef
... aka Chef, The (1919)
Ask Father (1919)
Going! Going! Gone! (1919)
Wanted - $5,000 (1919)
Back to the Woods (1918/I)
She Loves Me Not (1918)
Take a Chance (1918)
Hear 'Em Rave (1918)
Nothing But Trouble (1918)
Why Pick on Me? (1918)
Bees in His Bonnet (1918)
Swing Your Partners (1918)
Two Scrambled (1918)
Bride and Gloom (1918) .... Groom
That's Him (1918)
Kicking the Germ Out of Germany (1918)
Ozark Romance, An (1918)
Are Crooks Dishonest? (1918)
Somewhere in Turkey (1918)
Sic 'Em, Towser (1918)
City Slicker, The (1918) .... Harold
Fireman Save My Child (1918)
Two-Gun Gussie (1918) .... Two-Gun Gussie
Non-Stop Kid, The (1918)
Kicked Out (1918)
Hey There! (1918)
It's a Wild Life (1918)
Pipe the Whiskers (1918) .... Janitor
Follow the Crowd (1918)
Let's Go (1918) .... Soda jerk
Here Come the Girls (1918)
Look Pleasant, Please (1918)
Gasoline Wedding, A (1918)
Beat It (1918)
Hit Him Again (1918)
Lamb, The (1918)
Big Idea, The (1918)
Tip, The (1918)
Lonesome Luke's Lovely Rifle (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Step Lively (1917)
Bashful (1917)
Move On (1917) .... Chester Fields
We Never Sleep (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
All Aboard (1917)
Clubs Are Trump (1917)
Flirt, The (1917)
Love, Laughs and Lather (1917)
Rainbow Island (1917)
Lonesome Luke From London to Laramie (1917)
Bliss (1917)
Birds of a Feather (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
By the Sad Sea Waves (1917)
Pinched (1917)
Lonesome Luke Loses Patients (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Over the Fence (1917)
Lonesome Luke's Wild Women (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke, Mechanic (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke, Messenger (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Stop! Luke! Listen! (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke, Plumber (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
... aka Lonesome Luke's Plumbing Mishaps (1917)
... aka Luke's Plumbing Blunders (1917)
Lonesome Luke's Honeymoon (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke on Tin Can Alley (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke's Lively Life (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke Wins Ye Ladye Faire (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke, Lawyer (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Trolley Troubles (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Drama's Dreadful Deal (1917)
Luke's Busy Day (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Lost Liberty (1917) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Shattered Sleep (1916) .... Luke
Luke Locates the Loot (1916) .... Luke
... aka Luke Locates the Lute (1916)
Luke's Fireworks Fizzle (1916) .... Luke
Luke, Rank Impersonator (1916) .... Luke
Luke's Movie Muddle (1916) .... Luke
... aka Cinema Director, The (1916) (USA: video title)
... aka Director of the Cinema (1916)
... aka Luke's Model Movie (1916)
Luke's Newsie Knockout (1916) .... Luke
Luke, Patient Provider (1916) .... Luke
Luke, the Gladiator (1916) .... Lonesome Lukius, Gladiator
Luke's Preparedness Preparations (1916) .... Luke
Luke, the Chauffeur (1916) .... Luke
Luke and the Bang-Tails (1916) .... Luke
Luke's Speedy Club Life (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke and the Mermaids (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke Joins the Navy (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke Does the Midway (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Lost Lamb (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke, Crystal Gazer (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke Rides Roughshod (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Washful Waiting (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Society Mixup (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Fatal Flivver (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke Laughs Last (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Late Lunchers (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke and the Bomb Throwers (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Them Was the Happy Days! (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke's Double (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke, Circus King (1916)
Luke Pipes the Pippins (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke and the Rural Roughnecks (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke Foils the Villain (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Luke, the Candy Cut-Up (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke Lolls in Luxury (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
... aka Luke Rolls in Luxury (1916)
Luke Lugs Luggage (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
Lonesome Luke Leans to the Literary (1916) .... Lonesome Luke
... aka Luke Leans to the Literary (1916)
Hogan's Romance Upset (1915)
One Night Stand, A (1915)
Lonesome Luke, Social Gangster (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
... aka Social Gangster (1915)
Peculiar Patients' Pranks (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Ruses, Rhymes and Roughnecks (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Foozle at the Tee Party, A (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Ragtime Snap Shots (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Great While It Lasted (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Tinkering with Trouble (1915) .... Lonesome Luke aka Easy Otis
Submarine Pirate, A (1915)
Bughouse Bellhops (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Giving Them Fits (1915) .... Luke de Fluke
Fresh from the Farm (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Some Baby (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Mixup for Mazie, A (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Terribly Stuck Up (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Pressing His Suit (1915/I)
Soaking the Clothes (1915)
Spit-Ball Sadie (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Once Every Ten Minutes (1915)
Hungry Actors, The (1915)
... aka Into the Light (1915) (USA)
Court House Crooks (1915) (uncredited) .... Young Man
Lonesome Luke (1915) .... Lonesome Luke
Miss Fatty's Seaside Lovers (1915) .... A suitor
From Italy's Shore (1915)
Their Social Splash (1915)
... aka Social Splash (1915) (USA)
Love, Loot and Crash (1915) (uncredited) .... Bit Part
Just Nuts (1915) .... Willie Work
Curses! They Remarked (1914)
Patchwork Girl of Oz, The (1914) (uncredited) .... Tottenhot
... aka L. Frank Baum's Whimsical Fairy Tale The Patchwork Girl of Oz (1914)
... aka Ragged Girl of Oz (1918) (reissue title)
... aka Raggedy Girl, The (1919) (reissue title)
Samson (1914) (uncredited) .... Chief Eunuch
Sealed Orders (1914)
Twixt Love and Fire (1914)
Algy on the Force (1913)
His Chum the Baron (1913)
Hulda of Holland (1913)
Twelfth Juror, The (1913)
Hide and Seek (1913)
Cupid in the Dental Parlor (1913)
... aka Love in the Dental Parlor (1913) (USA: preview title)
Old Monk's Tale, The (1913) .... Yaqui Indian (bit part)


 
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Greg Holland

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2004, 02:59:13 PM »
Per the article, it was called "Safety Last" golf course, it was a par 32 (2 par 4s and 8 par 3s) with water in play on every hole.

THuckaby2

Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2004, 03:04:03 PM »
Good lord... Dan you sure could have just posted the first line, and waited for Greg's confirmation.  
 ;D ;D ;D

But excellent film knowledge, anyway.  You are a seething cauldron of cinematic facts.

TH

Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2004, 03:07:12 PM »
With Tommy_N apparently away, someone's gotta pretend to know something about the movies!

Not that he's pretending ... but I am!
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A.G._Crockett

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2004, 03:07:19 PM »
Dan,
Please tell me that you know much more about computers than I do and that you downloaded that list rather than typing it!  In either case, though, I am WAY impressed!
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Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2004, 03:09:30 PM »
Two words, A_G_C:

1. Copy.

2. Paste.

It's a great Web site.
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RJ_Daley

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2004, 03:10:19 PM »
He cuts and pastes, as fast as his golf swing... ::)
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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2004, 03:18:53 PM »
Yes, Harold Lloyd and Safety Last.  (I was doing a search for "Harrison", which was ringing a bell.  "Harold" was it.)

Dan posted straight from IMDB.com, just as I have done quite a few times (usually lines/exchanges from movies).

Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2004, 03:22:50 PM »
He cuts and pastes, as fast as his golf swing... ::)

And just a *little* more accurately!  ::)
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Joel_Stewart

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2004, 03:58:56 PM »
What I found amazing is that Harold Lloyd lived on the property until he died which I believe was in the 1970's and then subdivided.  Iwould guess the value of that entire piece of property would probably be worth $100 million today.  The article said it was located down the street from Los Angeles Country Club.

I was disappointed in the pictures of Mountain Lake.  Amazing the correlation between the ads and the articles in Links.  

Dan King

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2004, 04:38:28 PM »
I’m amazed you guys haven’t heard of Harold Lloyd. He was one of the big three – Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin and Lloyd.

Maybe the pic from Safety Last will jog some memories:


Lloyd’s estate was called Greenacres, click here to see some pictures of Greenacres.

Only one pic of him on his golf course:

Dan King
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his enthusiasm seemed to be for his nine-hole golf course. And indirectly the creation of this course furnishes a key to his success. Harold Lloyd, despite his easy-going good humor, his cordial attitude toward everybody he meets, his boyishly-kind and generous way with his associates and his rattlety-bang camaraderie, is a man of tremendous persistence. He won't be turned aside from his objective.

"I had three landscape architects give their opinion as to a golf course," he said. "Two of them said it couldn't be done and one said it could. So I accepted the minority report--and, well, there's the golf course."

There it was, sure enough, laid out in a narrow strip, perhaps not more than two or three acres in all, and it is pronounced good by no less authorities than Eddie Loos, George Von Elm, Harry Cooper and Tommy Armour. Loos holds the course record with a 28. The course par is 32. It is not a "miniature" course, as might be suspected. There are two full wood shots and a number of mashies. "Every hole is a shot," said Lloyd. "No. 7 is the prize. It is about 100 yards, over the creek and beyond the big pepper trees. It takes a niblick and a push shot to get the ball on the green."
 --Elmer Peterson, Better Homes and Gardens, 1928

THuckaby2

Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2004, 04:39:50 PM »
Don't be too amazed, Dan.  I also really have no clue about Buster Keaton.  

When it comes to film knowledge I know a lot about cooking.

TH

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2004, 04:43:35 PM »
Dan,

Just wasn't familiar with the name.  I've seen the pic of Safety Last (or a clip from it), but I'm not sure I've ever seen any full-length silent film.  Plenty of clips....Chaplin, Keaton, etc.
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Dan Kelly

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Re:LINKS Jan/Feb Issue
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2004, 04:49:29 PM »
Dan,

Just wasn't familiar with the name.  I've seen the pic of Safety Last (or a clip from it), but I'm not sure I've ever seen any full-length silent film.  Plenty of clips....Chaplin, Keaton, etc.

You owe it to yourself to see any number of Chaplin movies -- beginning with "City Lights," "Modern Times," and "The Gold Rush." (I first typed that "Golf Rush"; the fingers are well-trained.)
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