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Jimmy Muratt

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Here's a great new article from the new T&L Golf regarding a three day visit with Tom Doak at his proposed "Kilshannig Cross" golf course in Castlegregory, Ireland.  The journalist pals around with Tom as he goes over possible routing and the environmental issues that they face.  The course sounds fantastic....

A very interesting read.....

http://www.travelandleisure.com/tlgolf/#toc
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Scott_Burroughs

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Jimmy,

Check the Doak/Kilshannig thread a page or two down....

Jimmy Muratt

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I enjoyed the last thread and reading Tom's thoughts, just thought everyone may like to read the actual article which just got posted today to T&L Golf's website.

ddavid426

Great article.  It mentions that Tom is designing a private course in Palm Springs.  Any intel on that?  
I know the only course under construction currently is Toscana, but there are supposed to be another
2 dozen in the works.  I assume his is one of those on the drawing board.  If so, this would be one to
watch, as most of the designs in the desert end up disappointing.

Norbert P

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Thanks JimmyVA for posting the article link.  It is an optimistic read and one that gets into the personality of Tom Doak, as we may or may not know him.  I generally try to focus on the results of artists but it doesn't hurt to learn a little about the processes and decisions that creative people choose for final results.  

  As we all know, links land is becoming very scarce and valuable to the golfing purists.  It's good to see land like this go to the Coores and Doaks.  I'm not intending to knock anybody else or their styles, but from what I've seen, played and read, these men are worthy of these diamond cutting commissions.

  Make Eddie Hackett proud; as I know you will.
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Tim_Weiman

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Slag,

Not to hijack the thread but, generally speaking the literature on golf architecture includes very little on what was in the mind of architects during the design stage. Perhaps the best exception is the Tom Fazio/Steve Wynn book on Shadow Creek. But, that doesn't interest me that much given the "blank slate" nature of the site. Wouldn't it be better to have documentation on what Mackenzie was thinking as he laid out Cypress Point?

Back to the article on Tom Doak at Castlegregory. Quite enjoyable, I thought. It was a piece that stood out as being unique......at least I can't think of many like it.
Tim Weiman

Norbert P

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Tim, or Tom Doak's Making of Pacific Dunes. (I hope he gets to it when (if) things slow down a little for him.)
"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

BobCullen

Gentlemen:

I am delighted that some of you have read and enjoyed the Doak-Kilshannig piece. A modest suggestion: if you'd like to read more such stuff, write to the editor and tell him that you liked this one and want more. John Atwood has an interest in architecture already, but some positive reader feedback can't hurt when it comes time to make decisions on the allocation of editorial resources. His address is c/o T&L Golf, 1120 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY 10036 or via tlgletters@tlgolf.com.

Thanks for your interest.

Bob Cullen

Tom_Doak

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Bob:

I just received the article in the mail from Travel & Leisure Golf yesterday.  It's one of the nicest things that's been written about me.

I also want to congratulate you for giving readers a little more sense of what it's like to go out and try to route a golf course.  It's alternately inspiring and frustrating, and anything but cushy.

I wish there had been more chance to mention some of my other employees, but they missed out on that part of this job, and some of them have had their days in the sun lately anyway.  I'm sure Don's dad will be thrilled, though.

Since it turned out so well, I promise to get you back over there for another look when we are actually in construction.  Who knows?  It might be so far down the road that the magazine will be ready for another architecture article.