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Tim Johnson

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2012, 04:13:16 PM »
Although the course would not be ready for years, this would be a huge boost for the golf tourism in the area. I have been talking about the NW coast since 2004 as one of the best runs of links golf around in terms of travel, quality of the courses and the cost. Adding this course, if it is bulit properly, to Carne, Enniscrone, Donegal, Sligo etc would only make the NW coast better and better for the existing courses.

Would have loved to see what Eddie Hackett could with this piece of land.
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Kalen Braley

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2012, 05:13:39 PM »
I think this is the island...

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Garland Bayley

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2012, 08:52:49 PM »
Quote from: Kalen Braley on July 18, 2012, 05:13:39 PM
I think this is the island...



Google Earth labels that Bartragh Island, County Mayo, Ireland. Seems you've got it.
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"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Tom_Doak

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2012, 09:33:20 PM »
That looks spectacular.  I hope he gets to build it. 

[and sets a precedent for other architects to build on similar sites]  :)
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Duncan Cheslett

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2012, 03:11:53 AM »
Look what's next door...




The well regarded Enniscrone Golf Club.  http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,46784.msg1037954.html#msg1037954

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Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2012, 06:42:52 AM »
Quote from: Jack_Marr on July 18, 2012, 02:30:50 PM
It doesn't seem far off shore at all, Brian.

Here's a link on Google Earth

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=54.209243,-9.160967&spn=0.041713,0.107632&t=h&z=14

John

If you click this, you can zoom right in. Properties on the island too.
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John Marr(inan)

Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2012, 08:03:59 AM »
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John Marr(inan)

Jack_Marr

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #32 on: July 19, 2012, 12:19:38 PM »
Ok. I've now heard that this project is not progressing at the moment, but they still have plans to develop in the future, given permissions...
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Matthew Petersen

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #33 on: July 19, 2012, 12:22:09 PM »
Quote from: Brian Sheehy on July 19, 2012, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on July 18, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
That looks spectacular.  I hope he gets to build it.  

[and sets a precedent for other architects to build on similar sites]  :)

I would rather he bought it and you built it! Out of interest, does he have a ghost designer? 

The "Faldo" courses I'm aware of are Schmidt-Curley. Not sure if everything he hashis name on is with them, though.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2012, 12:26:46 PM »
Quote from: Matthew Petersen on July 19, 2012, 12:22:09 PM
Quote from: Brian Sheehy on July 19, 2012, 12:23:20 AM
Quote from: Tom_Doak on July 18, 2012, 09:33:20 PM
That looks spectacular.  I hope he gets to build it.  

[and sets a precedent for other architects to build on similar sites]  :)

I would rather he bought it and you built it! Out of interest, does he have a ghost designer?  

The "Faldo" courses I'm aware of are Schmidt-Curley. Not sure if everything he hashis name on is with them, though.

Those courses were the very early ones (e.g. Chart Hills)... Guy Hockley was Faldo's designer / partner when he set up his own practice in 1999... Guy now has his own company but I think still does some work for Faldo... I'm not sure if there is another designer involved or not...

EDIT - Note Tom's post below... I was thinking of Steve Smyers for Chart Hills, not Schmidt-Curly
« Last Edit: July 19, 2012, 02:40:54 PM by Ally Mcintosh »
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Jonathan Davison

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2012, 01:14:04 PM »
Head of Faldo Golf Design is Andy Haggar, Andy worked for European Golf Design for a number of years before joining Faldo.
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Rory Connaughton

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #36 on: July 19, 2012, 01:24:32 PM »
When the tide is low, you can walk across the estuary from Enniscrone GC to Bartra.  Its a pretty spectacular part of the world.
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2012, 01:27:20 PM »
Also, note that several of Faldo's early designs [including Chart Hills] were done in collaboration with Steve Smyers, not with Brian Curley, who did team with Faldo on a few, too.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2012, 03:17:43 PM »
Looks like it would be a good place to play when the tide is out and the pond has receded. ;)
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"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2012, 03:22:19 AM »
Jonathan,

The only two completed Faldo courses I have seen / played are Lough Erne in Ireland and the Oceanico course in the Algarve... They must have both opened around the same time; 2007 / 2008.... I liked some of the detail on both of those courses... Do you know if they were Guy Hockley designs or Andy Haggar designs?

Thanks,
Ally
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Jonathan Davison

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2012, 05:04:59 AM »
Ally,
I think Guy designed those, I remember the guys were building Lough Erne the same time as we were doing Farnham Estate both difficult ground conditions in terrible weather.
Andy designed Lough Rynn, I am not sure if this project got finished, but it was a nice site with the golf playing round the lake.
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2012, 05:20:55 AM »
Thanks Jonathan... I walked Lough Rynn shaped up... Nice hotel, lovely site... never got finished.

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Thomas Dai

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2020, 03:11:35 PM »
This has recently been posted about NF and Bartragh Island - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=82hrNv92D5s
Chatter or something more now on the cards?
Atb
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David_Tepper

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2020, 03:40:42 PM »
Thomas D. -

Thanks for spotting that video and for the link. It sure sounds like a golf course is going to happen there.

DT
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Ally Mcintosh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2020, 04:54:26 PM »
Quote from: David_Tepper on January 22, 2020, 03:40:42 PM
Thomas D. -

Thanks for spotting that video and for the link. It sure sounds like a golf course is going to happen there.

DT


My guess is it’s still more dream than reality. The entire island sits within an SAC.
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Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2020, 05:25:21 PM »
« Last Edit: January 22, 2020, 05:45:59 PM by Dónal Ó Ceallaigh »
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David_Tepper

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2020, 06:22:41 PM »
Donal -

Thanks for the update and current information. It is a shame to read how the manor house on the island has gone to ruin.

DT
« Last Edit: January 23, 2020, 01:06:36 PM by David_Tepper »
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John Mayhugh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2020, 12:54:56 PM »
I enjoyed the video and the dream.

Now I will be more realistic and just imagine a world where Enniscrone redesigns their logo.
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Rory Connaughton

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2020, 02:26:30 PM »
Even if there was no protection for the land itself, access across the estuary would have presented cost and planning issues. It is something special for sure and development would probably have benefited Enniscrone.
@John - I might have agreed at one time but having spent a lot of time at Enniscrone over the last 15 years, I wouldn't change it.  The logo speaks to a club that could not be less pretentious, more welcoming or in a more spectacular setting. 


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Dónal Ó Ceallaigh

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Re: Faldo's Island
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2020, 07:25:34 AM »
« Last Edit: July 29, 2020, 07:27:12 AM by Dónal Ó Ceallaigh »
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