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peter_p

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2003, 04:58:55 PM »
Scott,
Thanks for the tour. The AOTD feature will be hard to beat. I got better as more reference material migrated near the computer.

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2003, 09:39:04 PM »
After over a year of knowing that Shinnecock would be shown last, I forgot about this killer pictorial of it:


















from the tour, with descriptions of each hole:

http://services.golfweb.com/tour/shinn/shinn_all.htm

and Joann Dost's set of Shinny pics:

#5:

#6:

#9:

#12:

#14:

#18:


DPL11

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2003, 09:54:07 PM »
Scott,

Great shots from Shinny. It brings back great memories, and thank you for a great job on the AOTD's. Now you can sit back, relax, and enjoy your retirement. :)

Doug

Gene Greco

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2003, 10:00:38 PM »
Great course.

Great photos.

Great threads.

Great finish.

Thanks, Scott.
"...I don't believe it is impossible to build a modern course as good as Pine Valley.  To me, Sand Hills is just as good as Pine Valley..."    TOM DOAK  November 6th, 2010

Brad Klein

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2003, 03:46:06 AM »
Scott, over the years (has it really been two?), these AOTD  posts have been the most consistently valuable feature to appear on GCA. They completely change how you see and think about a golf course. Great stuff. Thanks for all of your work.

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2003, 07:40:38 PM »
What a fantastic contribution to academic matters you have performed!  We may have found this a quiz game - and those few of us on this side of the pond who knew anything about US courses are, indeed, few - but it has been wonderfully stimulating.  Thank you so much for such fun!

John Foley

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #31 on: December 21, 2003, 09:52:29 PM »
SCott,

Great work, and what a great finish!! Can't wait to see it live at the Open.

Here's agreat question I've been wondering, how did you think of starting this and ho long did it take you to put some of these togethers. I think it's time for a look "behing The Scene" of the AOTD.
Integrity in the moment of choice

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2003, 10:01:34 AM »
Just bringing this back to the top for those who missed the
killer pictorial I posted Friday evening near the top of this
page (scroll up).  Do that first before reading on, so you don't forget!   :)

John F,

I generally did the aerials in two stages (not always).  First
was "hunting and gathering".  Hunting was either via
golfcourse.com to get the mapquest.com color aerial (wasn't
always that easy, as mq.com had bugs in it, where the aerial
photo button didn't always pop up) or to Terraserver for the
B&W version (mq.com has/had terraserver's B&W photos in
many areas where they don't have color coverage, but
Terraserver's are easier to deal with and put together.

Then it would be gathering, scrolling over the courses to get
all of it.  That wasn't always easy, with multiple course
complexes or neighboring courses, knowing which course was
which.  A number of times, I'd need to consult
golfcourse.com's course scorecards (if available) to figure out
the right course.

There is actually more to it (problems/bugs, etc) than this,
but that's the gist of it.

I would usually gather several courses at a time.

Then I would piece togehter several at a time, which involved
simple MS Paint, and taking out mulitple logos to leave 1 or 2
on the entire thing.  Resizing blank photos to get general
dimensions of the final pic, carefully piecing them together,
with less-than-surgeon-like steadiness, not always easy.  
Some were pieced together by up to 11 or 12 different pics.  
One or two of the early ones were only one pic (zoomed in
aerials weren't available then), so no piecing together was
required (Seminole was one of these - one pic - but small,
obviously).

Some (after zoomed-in ones were available) would take as
little as 15 minutes to gather and put together, some would
take up to 45 minutes, perhaps.  After doing it awhile, I
learned how to streamline and do it faster.

Another story is how I determined what courses to do - and in what order.  Perhaps another time.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2003, 10:05:23 AM by Scott_Burroughs »

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2003, 11:37:29 AM »
Forgot to mention the AOTD summary.  Hopefully, I'll have it
by tomorrow, as what I'm wanting to do is a big task, but I
think very benefitial (easy) to all.

I also forgot to link Ran's great write-up, with lots of pics as well:

http://www.golfclubatlas.com/shinnecock1.html

I also noticed that Ran's pic of the devilish 11th here:



has the area behind the green mown to chipping-area depth,
as the pic from the ones I did above:



appears to be just rough behind the green.

THuckaby2

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2003, 11:52:55 AM »
Fantastic stuff, Scott.

I sure remember the area behind the green being cut to fairway height... in fact on my third try from back there (stroke 7) I finally figured out a putt was the best play.   ;D

TH

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #35 on: December 22, 2003, 12:29:12 PM »
The 2nd pic of #11 is at least 8.5-9 years old.  Was it fairway
height for the '95 Open?  Where was Norman's heroic par from?
« Last Edit: December 22, 2003, 12:29:24 PM by Scott_Burroughs »

mike_malone

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #36 on: December 22, 2003, 06:47:09 PM »
 Scott
 Many thanks for your work on AOTD. I said in a  past thread that Louviers was where i began to think about architecture.As a Uof D student i played here often.
  If you go to play there again let me know.
AKA Mayday

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