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Scott_Burroughs

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Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« on: December 19, 2003, 09:58:57 AM »
All things must come to an end....

The last day of AOTD.  And it seems that the Color Update
series won't even be able to be done, since MapQuest took
away the aerial photos from their web site.

It's been fun, but after two years almost non-stop, I'm beat.
I hope you enjoyed it.


I also hope that the first one today isn't terribly difficult to figure out, since many have waited patiently for it:



As for the final stumper, like #1 today, this also has been
labeled "best" of some kind by at least one person on GCA.com.

And it certainly needs a chainsaw on several holes:

« Last Edit: October 21, 2004, 12:10:52 AM by Scott_Burroughs »

Mike Nuzzo

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2003, 10:08:46 AM »
Thank you Scott!!

Looks pretty hard to find those practice holes on #1.
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

THuckaby2

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2003, 10:40:08 AM »
Bet you had to be REALLY careful cutting off #1 where you did, on the left...  ;)

This was a fine one to save for last.  

And Scott, MANY THANKS for doing this for so long.  It has been great fun and your efforts are sincerely appreciated.

TH
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 10:42:31 AM by Tom Huckaby »

Pete Lavallee

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2003, 10:49:31 AM »
Damn, just when I finally get one the series comes to an end! Seriously, thanks a lot Scott for all the work you put into the AOTD; it's been a gtreat addition to GCA.com.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 05:00:25 PM by Pete_L. »
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John_Lovito

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2003, 10:59:42 AM »
#1 must be a somewhat dated aerial as this course is even more wide open than this picture suggests, especially around #14 (top of the aerial).

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2003, 11:00:54 AM »
#1 has it's place in U.S. golf history.

Best design by this otherwise underrated architect, although
only 17 of the holes are his.  One from the original
design/architect here was good enough to keep as is.

We should get great glimpses of this course in the late spring.

Mike is right.  Hard to make out that long lost chasm hole.  
Oh, and thanks for your contributions to AOTD, Mike!  You did 20 of the 455!


#2:

Tick central?

While hunting here (and avoiding the ticks, hopefully) one
might need some Kevlar to avoid getting shot by our hunter
friends, some Teflon for cooking breakfast, and, well, you
don't need nylons.  

Club has French name heritage.

20 bucks says you see one here.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 11:01:32 AM by Scott_Burroughs »

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2003, 11:04:19 AM »
John,

Yes, this was taken on April 8, 1994.

wsmorrison

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2003, 11:20:31 AM »
Thank you for the effort, Scott.  Great way to finish.  Your photos have been a nice resource for Tom and I.  My shot to under a foot to the par 3 on the bottom right of the 1st aerial is one of my all-time highlight shots.  Looks easier from this angle  :)

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2003, 11:54:38 AM »
#1:

Huckaby is correct.  A previous AOTD (shown all the way
back in the very first week) is very close at upper left (you
can even make out the edge of one of the almost 400
bunkers on that course).  Another previous AOTD is also very
close to this course, but off the lower right.

Matt Ward's favorite course.

Sometimes nicknamed as if you were kicked in the front of
your leg above your footie.

My favorite Tour pro from my hometown area once held the course record here....for one day.

Famous clubhouse above the course.


#2 was called Best of a certain category by....me.  Hey, it's
my list, and I wanted to end with a personal one.  ;D 8)

Whitetail Meadow CC?

Former name here is reminiscent of Mona Lisa's home.

Another one where the aerial doesn't give you the elevation
changes here.  A real roller coaster ride on this one.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 12:58:53 PM by Scott_Burroughs »

CHC1948

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2003, 12:05:13 PM »
Scott,

Thanks for all your hard work, you have given me something to do on those slow work days.  Sorry about blowing the CC of Charleston one, rookie mistake!

CHC  

Doug Wright

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2003, 12:18:14 PM »
Scott,

Let me join the chorus to say your hard work with these AOTDs has brightened many of my days and has been a terrific addition to GolfClubAtlas.com.

Best, and Happy Holidays,
Twitter: @Deneuchre

JLahrman

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2003, 12:21:37 PM »
I didn't realize we hadn't had #1 yet...I got it based on knowing the hole on which the course has its only water hazard.  How awesome does #16 look?

Craig Disher

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2003, 12:25:22 PM »
Scott,
If this is the last, you've finished in grand style. I know how much work you've put into the AOTDs (makes my efforts with aerials seem like doodling) but they've been a great resource and wonderful entertainment.

If it's not presumptuous, I may add something after these last two are revealed.

Thanks again.

Dan Kelly

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2003, 12:25:43 PM »
Scott --

Thank you.

It's been fun.

Have you thought about putting out a book of
these? A small market, perhaps, but a good one.

Dan
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

SPDB

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2003, 12:36:59 PM »
Scott -

As your most loyal customer, thanks for all of your efforts.
Your work has had a profound impact on the
quality (and quantity!) of discussion here. Not many
people can lay claim to that distinction, and it puts you in
some pretty heady company.
I believe I was the first poster on AOTD (toot toot).

When's the reunion tour?

-Sean

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2003, 01:11:27 PM »
Ugh, had to go back and correct a homonym spelling/tyop
error (common everywhere, but I know the difference! ;D).

Thanks for the kinds words, guys, I will (hopefully) be doing a
a huge summary of the AOTDs on Monday.

Dan,

MapQuest.com/GlobeXplorer hold the copyrights to all the
color aerials.  Not mine to sell.

Craig,

Your NLE and other old aerials are terrific.


#1:  Perhaps the best U.S. Open venue around.  For a (then)
long course, a short-knocker won the last Open here.

The last AOTD of many from America's Linksland, Long Island.

#2 has been mentioned by me ad nauseam (well,
maybe a half-dozen times) as being my top hidden gem.  I
checked in here after 10 years on my recent trip to the
Philadelphia area.

Stainmaster carpets in the old clubhouse here?

As the new name implies, I saw plenty of does and bucks on
this course.  Cart paths weren't there then, though.   :'(  
Neither was that blind pond at the bend of the 'clifftop' shot
tee shot on the par 5 10th.

Several holes here were once voted as the toughest in this small, first state.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 01:14:54 PM by Scott_Burroughs »

RJ_Daley

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2003, 01:48:27 PM »
Scott, thanks very much for several enjoyable years of AOTD.  You have made a truly amazing commitment
to provide the treehouse regulars a daily 'must check in' feature.  
I wasn't able to guess but perhaps 1/3 of them, but at least I'm 50% today ;D.  
Your memory for what others posted about various topics and golf courses is amazing.  
Also, your YAPCRs have been entertaining,
though I also am deficient in the pop-cult areas to guess many of them. :-[
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 01:49:26 PM by RJ_Daley »
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Robert Kimball

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2003, 02:58:54 PM »
Well, I made it through a whole year of AOTD's and didn't
get fired from work!!  :)
Quite an accomplishment.  Seriously, thank you again Scott.
And I really appreciate the help you
gave me on a personal aerial.  

And I think everyone has #1, and I have no clues (as usual) on #2. . . .
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 02:59:48 PM by Rob_Kimball »

LKoonce

Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2003, 03:06:29 PM »
As a relative newcomer to the site, let me just say that I wish I had been around for the 400 or so previous AOTDs.  Thanks for all the hard work.

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2003, 04:01:05 PM »
I called GlobeXplorer (since nobody at MapQuest answered
any phone nor returned my e-mail from Monday), and they
said that their aerials are no longer offered on
MapQuest.   :'(  Major bummer!


As for this:

#1 is Shinnecock Hills, in Southampton, NY, designed by
William Flynn (and Toomey, I guess).  Home of the 2004 U.S.
Open, in addition to the recent Opens in 1995 and 1986.  
Consensus Top 5 in seemingly most people's lists, #1 to some
(including Matt Ward  ;D ).

One of original 5 courses that founded the USGA and the first
club to admit women.  First and oldest clubhouse in U.S.  
Flynn designed a new course when the highway at the
bottom was built, keeping only what now is the par 3 Redan
7th of Raynor's original design.  Apparently the Biarritz
impressions can still be seen in person near the highway in
the practice area at bottom left.


other clues include:

"Looks pretty hard to find those practice holes on #1."
and "Hard to make out that long lost chasm hole" = (Biarritz)

"Best design by this otherwise underrated architect, although
only 17 of the holes are his."  = Flynn  "One from the original
design/architect here was good enough to keep as is." = Raynor's original

We should get great glimpses of this course in the late spring.
= U.S. Open site, in mid-June.

"A previous AOTD (shown all the way back in the very first
week) is very close at upper left (you can even make out the
edge of one of the almost 400 bunkers on that course).  
Another previous AOTD is also very close to this course, but
off the lower right." = NGLA is at upper left, and Southampton
is at lower right.

Matt Ward's favorite course.

Sometimes nicknamed as if you were kicked in the front of
your leg above your footie. = "shinny"

My favorite Tour pro from my hometown area once held the
course record here....for one day. = Horseheads, NY native
Joey Sindelar shot a then course record 66 in (I believe) the
2nd round of the 1986 U.S. Open, only to be bettered by 1 in
the 3rd and/or 4th round by 2 others.

Famous clubhouse above the course

"Perhaps the best U.S. Open venue around.  For a (then)
long course, a short-knocker won the last Open here. = Corey
Pavin, winner of 1995 Open.

The last AOTD of many from America's Linksland, Long Island
= I'm not listing them all.


#2 is Deerfield G&TC, formerly known as the Louviers course
at DuPont CC, in Newark, DE, designed by Alfred Tull and
William Gordon.

I have said on several occasions, this is my top hidden gem,
as few people outside (and inside, really) of the
Wilmington/Philadelphia area have ever heard of it.  I was a
member of Dupont CC in '92-'93, and spent most of my time
at Louviers.  In 1994, Dupont sold the Louviers course to
credit card giant MBNA, but Dupont members still have playing
privileges (I didn't know that until I visited in October).


other clues include:

this also has been labeled "best" of some kind by at least one
person on GCA.com. = me

"Tick central?" = "deer" field

While hunting here (and avoiding the ticks, hopefully) one
might need some Kevlar to avoid getting shot by our hunter
friends, some Teflon for cooking breakfast, and, well, you
don't need nylons.  = hunting for "deer", avoiding the ticks.  
Kevlar, Teflon, and nylon are all "Dupont" products.

Club has French name heritage. = "Louviers" and "Du Pont"

20 "bucks" says you see one here = and I saw deer there
(usually on #10) a number of times.

Whitetail Meadow CC? = "deer" "field"

Former name here is reminiscent of Mona Lisa's home
= "Louvre"/Louviers

"has been mentioned by me ad nauseam (well, maybe a half-
dozen times) as being my top hidden gem.  I checked in here
after 10 years on my recent trip to the Philadelphia area."

"Stainmaster carpets" = another Du Pont product

As the new name implies, I saw plenty of does and bucks on
this course.

Several holes here were once voted as the toughest in this
small, first state.  = definitely #4, #8, and #9, probably #10,
#5, and/or #14.



As I said earlier, I hope to do a massive summary of the
AOTDs on Monday, even better than previous summaries,
including links to all 455 aerials.

Dan Kelly

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2003, 04:08:09 PM »
I called GlobeXplorer (since nobody at MapQuest answered
any phone nor returned my e-mail from Monday), and they
said that their aerials are no longer offered on
MapQuest.   :'(  Major bummer!

Wild Guess: This has something to do with the war on terror.
"There's no money in doing less." -- Joe Hancock, 11/25/2010
"Rankings are silly and subjective..." -- Tom Doak, 3/12/2016

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2003, 04:16:53 PM »
I called GlobeXplorer (since nobody at MapQuest answered
any phone nor returned my e-mail from Monday), and they
said that their aerials are no longer offered on
MapQuest.   :'(  Major bummer!

Wild Guess: This has something to do with the war on terror.

I'll guess not.  Anyone can still get this info by paying for it
on GlobeXplorer.com (and there are probably others).  I think
it was a "why pay for the cow when you can get the milk for
free" situation.  $
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 04:17:11 PM by Scott_Burroughs »

Dan Kelly

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2003, 04:22:44 PM »
Well, I SAID it was a wild guess!  :P :P :P
« Last Edit: December 19, 2003, 04:23:11 PM by Dan Kelly »
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Craig Disher

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2003, 04:26:14 PM »
A view of SH in 1938. It's softened a bit over the years but Flynn's design still shines through. It looks like the members could still play the old Biarritz.




Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Aerial of the Day #454 (and #455) - 19 Dec 2003
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2003, 04:55:09 PM »
Craig,

That (as usual, great) shot shows where the Biarritz is on the
1994 shot above, just left of the turnaround circle off the
entrance drive near the entrance.  Can see the old parallel
bunker lines.  Can also see the bunker outline on the east side
of the entrance drive that is ENE of the Biarritz.

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