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Peter Sayegh

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2025, 04:45:51 PM »
My point about familiarity isn’t so much that the Masters should change venues. Rather it is about other majors being held at the same venue every year and whether we would put those courses and the majors on the  same pedestal as AUGUSTA.

I already put the Opens on a higher pedestal than The Masters…so, no.

Ciao

Same.

Garland Bayley

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2025, 05:14:04 PM »
My point about familiarity isn’t so much that the Masters should change venues. Rather it is about other majors being held at the same venue every year and whether we would put those courses and the majors on the  same pedestal as AUGUSTA.

I already put the Opens on a higher pedestal than The Masters…so, no.

Ciao

Ditto!

"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Kalen Braley

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2025, 05:19:02 PM »
I'd agree as well, although for different reasons.

As long as the green jackets limit the effective field size to top 50 in the world and keep running out guys past their prime and old guys with no chance to win, it doesn't live up to The Open, or the US Open for that matter.

Garland Bayley

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2025, 05:40:12 PM »
I'd agree as well, although for different reasons.

As long as the green jackets limit the effective field size to top 50 in the world and keep running out guys past their prime and old guys with no chance to win, it doesn't live up to The Open, or the US Open for that matter.

So Kalen, where do you think you would enjoy playing more for pure golfing pleasure? Sagebrush? ANGC? Chambers Bay? Wine Valley?

If someone would treat us to a fourth Grudge Match at ANGC, I would be happy to play just to watch you rinse balls in the penalty areas there.  ;D

Remember, this question is about golf fun, not exclusivity, fame, or inaccessibility?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Kalen Braley

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2025, 06:30:29 PM »
I'd agree as well, although for different reasons.

As long as the green jackets limit the effective field size to top 50 in the world and keep running out guys past their prime and old guys with no chance to win, it doesn't live up to The Open, or the US Open for that matter.

So Kalen, where do you think you would enjoy playing more for pure golfing pleasure? Sagebrush? ANGC? Chambers Bay? Wine Valley?

If someone would treat us to a fourth Grudge Match at ANGC, I would be happy to play just to watch you rinse balls in the penalty areas there.  ;D

Remember, this question is about golf fun, not exclusivity, fame, or inaccessibility?


It'd be a toss up between Sage and Wine Valley.  I liked Chambers, but its tough, and no doubt ANGC is very difficult.


Or perhaps an alternate venue?  ;D

David_Tepper

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2025, 08:44:17 PM »
There is a lot more to the Masters & AGNC than the golf course. You could probably do a "case study" at the Harvard Business School about how this "brand" was created and nurtured over the years. Do we think of anything else when we hear someone mention a green jacket? :)   

JLahrman

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity New
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2025, 12:07:14 AM »
To take this in a slightly different direction...did anyone else love the 1975 throwback hole location on 16 for the final round? The Sunday hole locations are one aspect of the Masters that has gotten a little too familiar for me. Nearly every hole has the same location for the final round every year. I've always thought it might be more interesting to mix up the Sunday pins, and that hole location on 16 today really confirmed it for me.
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George Pazin

Re: Augusta and our fondness for familiarity
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2025, 11:37:18 AM »
To take this in a slightly different direction...did anyone else love the 1975 throwback hole location on 16 for the final round? The Sunday hole locations are one aspect of the Masters that has gotten a little too familiar for me. Nearly every hole has the same location for the final round every year. I've always thought it might be more interesting to mix up the Sunday pins, and that hole location on 16 today really confirmed it more me.


That's interesting, the first shot I saw on 16 yesterday, I thought, WTF? :) Personally, I prefer the traditional Sunday hole location, but I'm very much a traditionalist.


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I don't know why people have such a desire to rank everything. I'm more than ok saying I love them all equally, but in different ways. I love the Masters for the tradition and routine magic, the US Open for its challenges and grind, the Open for its land and weather, and The Players for its field.


Yeah, I left out the PGA...... :) Depends on the course. I did love it for its calendar position, as a wrap up last chance at a major before the winter drought, and feel like it's lost now, but maybe that's just me.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

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