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Mike Hendren

Bogey’s Insane Thread: Riviera’s 10th
« on: April 02, 2025, 06:19:07 PM »
Universally acclaimed as a great strategic short par, is the 10th at Riviera functionally obsolete in today’s game?


Now my absurd question: Would the hole be any less strategic if its bunkers were filled in at grade?  Uglier, no doubt. 
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Ben Sims

Re: Bogey’s Insane Thread: Riviera’s 10th
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2025, 07:17:01 PM »
Bogey,


I want to caveat that I really like Riviera. Love it in fact. Top 10 personal.


But is 10 still amazing after all these years? It is my opinion that the decision on short par 4’s isn’t based on distance anymore (driver vs 5 iron for instance). Everyone hits the longest club they can. And for that reason, I think 10 becomes distinctly more interesting if it was fairway all the way from the palm trees to the alternate green. Increase the variance of difficulty for the second shot the closer you get to the green is what I’m saying.


Hole might be more interesting with filled in greenside bunkers. But not fairway ones?

Charlie Goerges

Re: Bogey’s Insane Thread: Riviera’s 10th
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2025, 09:14:21 PM »
Hole might be more interesting with filled in greenside bunkers. But not fairway ones?




That’s how it was originally.
Severally on the occasion of everything that thou doest, pause and ask thyself, if death is a dreadful thing because it deprives thee of this. - Marcus Aurelius

Michael Dugger

Re: Bogey’s Insane Thread: Riviera’s 10th
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2025, 04:48:33 PM »
I think anytime you place a wide and narrow green where the narrow part is in the direct line of play, you get a compelling golf hole.


It's one of the great pieces of strategic golf course design.


Whether it's a short par 3 (Aug 12) or short par 4 (Riv 10) or whatever length of hole, it gets you thinking about angles, your ability to stop the ball, and the penalty for being too bold.



What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

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