Well written post Brett
The only problem I had the last time I played Pasa was green speed. I don’t know what they are keeping the greens at these days but many of the hole locations were just insane. I don’t care what kind of player you were. It got silly. Mackenzie never envisioned that.
Thanks, Mark. No one back then could've imagined anything 10+ with any sort of consistency. I imagine there were localized incidents and unusual conditions though where there were such though, especially on the links.
The thing about Pasatiempo is not so much them pushing speeds but the raising minimum "floor" of speeds across golf in combination with just how steep on aggregate those complexes there are (some over 10 feet elevation change from back to front). 11 on the stimp there is borderline and where they would get really nuts, as you'd see with some of the prior Westerns. 10 is kind of a sweet spot where they have maximum teeth within reason. The problem with the
Poa greens before, as explained by Justin Mandon (Justin please correct me if I'm speaking out of my a** here), is that getting them settled at that sweet spot of 10 was very difficult. They either wanted to be 11+ or 9 or less. With the bent and USGA profile, that should be way easier to control.
The speeds are very manageable at the moment and fun to play, especially with the firmness of the new profiles. I'd make the effort to check it out if you find yourself on the West Coast.